Follow on from what do you think of this youngster - palomino

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Okay, just had the palomino yearling Connie x TB vetted.

All good except for a few niggles.

1. He has a pea size splint on one front (cold and fixed and vet not concerned).

2. He is a little over at the knee.

3. Part of a front hoof has split away. Their farrier has trimmed it 6 weeks ago but it's left foot looking a little pigeon toed and the frog is pulling that way slightly. Vet thinks with a couple of good trims it will sort itself.

4. He's camped out behind.

5. He's a little long in the pastern.

In all other respect the vet really liked him. Said he had a fab temperament, was a nice stamp of a horse and in his opinion, worth a punt as even if he isn't what I want 2 or 3 years down the line he should mature into an attractive, sellable horse.

Asking price was £1950 and they accepted £1650 before vetting. What to do? Any advice appreciated.
 
I saw the conformation faults & the uneven front in the pics - TBH I wouldn't have bothered viewing .
The splint is probably down to his conformation.
 
Sounds like a lot of money. I got my 20 month old Connie x Tb for £700 a year and a half ago. They are a great breed but I'd never spend that much. I didn't see your previous post so do t know what yours looked
 
I prob wouldn't of bothered viewing at that price, and with all the little issues now, I think he's too much money. You can pick really good stunning youngsters for £300-500. Think the only reason he is up for so much is due to his colour.
Well done on having him vetted though
 
Just looked at your previous post. That's a lot for a colt too. Would you get him gelded? You have to think if that cost too. Did you like him for his breed or his colour? I could give you the contact details for a Connie x Tb breeder where I got my lad from.
 
Your vet sounds positive about him so perhaps the photos didn't do him justice. If he is what you want and like then go ahead. Everyone has their own ideas on what makes the perfect horse. : )
 
Tbh I think that's an awful lot of money. I've just bought a welsh x filly for pennies.
But if you really like him .....good luck :-)
 
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I think if you were to go with your head, you would buy something else. However, he obviously 'speaks' to you. As others have said, if you found out that he's not suitable then you'll be able to resell him. I'd only add the caveat that it does depend what you want him for - if it's anything testing, I'd pick something else as his conformation isn't top notch. I also think that's a lot of money for a youngster in the current market, and definitely for one who's got a couple of issues conformationally. You're paying for his colour. He has a pretty face! I think you'll buy him anyway from the posts I've seen ;) good luck!
 
If you like him then go for it, at least you know what the potential problems are so can keep an eye on them. Some of his small issues may decrease with age, some might get worse, that's the risk with buying youngstock.

For what it's worth, a lot of horses will end up with splints at some point, it may or may not be to do with his conformation.
 
If you like him, buy him. The small conformational faults are just that; small, and there are MASSES of horses with far more wrong with them than that doing perfectly well at whatever jobs they do (including top notch competition horses - have a look at some of the trot-ups, you'll be very surprised). Price is not huge, and yes I know you can get cheaper yearlings; you can also pay an awful lot more.
 
If you really want it then buy it :) They are small confirmation issues, and hes got allot of growing to do, so I personally wouldnt worry :) I would try for abit less of the asking price, seems quite allot :) Good luck x
 
Not seen any pics so can't comment but, if the vet is fairly positive the issues aren't likely to cause problems then I wouldn't be overlyconcerned. Don't know how old he is, is he a colt as if so you have to factor in gelding costs unless the owners are doing this as part of the sale agreement? I paid £1000 for a 15mth old red and white 15hh gelding back in 2010. I already noticed he had a slightly toe out, over at the knee conf on one front and specifically asked vet for his opinion and there has been no issues to date (he's 4 now). Decent farrier and foot balance is paramount I feel though. If you really like him then go for it. You can buy horses with nothing wrong and they can develop problems/get injured anyway - buying horses is always a gamble!
 
I definitely think he is carrying a premium for his colour (with that breeding).

Is the hoof issue on the same side as the splint?
 
You liked him enough to make an offer and vet. Vet seems happy so I'd question at this stage why you are still unsure. ...
 
If you like him buy him, your decision. I personally wouldn't but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be right for you.

I also don't think he's expensive. Yes you can get horses and ponies for peanuts if that is what you are after, if this one is what you want buy him.
 
Something is only worth what someone will pay, you made an offer and the vet is happy...its your choice now. I wouldnt have looked twice at him because I really dont like palaminos...but I adore coloureds and alot of people dont :p
If he is what you like, can do the work that will be required and you are happy with the price then go for it ;)
 
Spyda said:
Okay, just had the palomino yearling Connie x TB vetted.

All good except for a few niggles.

1. He has a pea size splint on one front (cold and fixed and vet not concerned). Not a dealbreaker IMO

2. He is a little over at the knee. Better than back at the knee (which is weaker), so not a dealbreaker.

3. Part of a front hoof has split away. Their farrier has trimmed it 6 weeks ago but it's left foot looking a little pigeon toed and the frog is pulling that way slightly. Vet thinks with a couple of good trims it will sort itself. If you have a good farrier/trimmer and the leg is straight side to side and not twisted, that isn't a big deal. If the leg was wonky rather than just the chunk of hoof missing - I think this vet would have picked up on it

4. He's camped out behind. From the photos it is't too bad IMO, so again not a dealbreaker.

5. He's a little long in the pastern. What did his parent's pasterns look like? My grey had looong looking pasterns at that age and she grew into them. They don't look long now.

In all other respect the vet really liked him. Said he had a fab temperament, was a nice stamp of a horse and in his opinion, worth a punt as even if he isn't what I want 2 or 3 years down the line he should mature into an attractive, sellable horse. Vet has advised you to go ahead - which is very positive.

Asking price was £1950 and they accepted £1650 before vetting. What to do? Any advice appreciated.
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You are paying a premium for his colour, but that isn't a bad thing as it is a popular colour so if you do want to sell in the future, you can ask a premium for it too. Yes, you could pick up a youngster for 'pennies' but it wont be this one. Ask yourself if this is the one you want. After you've paid vets fees, livery, feed etc... for a few years the original purchase price soon disappears into nothing.
 
none of them are perfect! not at that price-I would however be negotiating some off to cover cost of castration at least. If you think he's up to what you want for him then he's probably worth it, all the talk of picking up fab youngsters for peanuts, well-not helping the industry is it :p
 
Faracat said:
After you've paid vets fees, livery, feed etc... for a few years the original purchase price soon disappears into nothing.
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This is a very good point. If he will be a forever horse then I would imagine you will forget the sum paid quite quickly. If you are prepared to write off the money if anything goes wrong then I would go for it

I personally dont agree with paying over the odds but this horse has obviously got under your skin and I am sure people have 'wasted' money on much worse :)

All I can suggest (and it may fall on deaf ears) is that if you have serious doubts then it would probably be for a good reason
 
None of those things would be deal breakers for me if I really liked the horse. You obviously do otherwise you wouldn't have had him vetted. What price you can get other horses for is irrelevant, this is the price of this horse and you've managed to negotiate a decent reduction in the price so I'd say if you like the horse go for it.

Out of interest, does anyone have a link to the advert with the photos? I'm intrigued now.
 
With the greatest respect to everyone who's been out and bought a pony for pennies, having never seen them, and in the full knowledge there are some very nice dirt cheap connies about at the moment, a lot of the ponies currently going for peanuts are priced thus because they are badly put together, badly bred, and because nobody wants them, making them close to worthless.

Personally the one in the OP *I* would pass by due to it's conformation (and colour, if I'm being honest), but if thats the one for her I dont think its a bad price.
 
I think you actually need to go and see him in the flesh and decide whether you fall in love with his personality.
 
If you like the horse and are happy with the price then buy him. :-) And best of luck.
I did buy my filly for pennies, she is well bred and well put together but I only got her so cheaply because she wasn't coloured.
Swings and roundabouts
What one person likes another person doesn't.
I think he looks lovely and perspnally I like palomino's :-)
 
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Spring Feather said:
None of those things would be deal breakers for me if I really liked the horse. You obviously do otherwise you wouldn't have had him vetted. What price you can get other horses for is irrelevant, this is the price of this horse and you've managed to negotiate a decent reduction in the price so I'd say if you like the horse go for it.

Out of interest, does anyone have a link to the advert with the photos? I'm intrigued now.
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Here's a link to the website, I think it's TawnyDun Rafferty - connie/tb.

ETA - hehe, here's the link
http://www.tawnydunstud.co.uk/page4.html
 
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If you like him and can be happy seeing his head over the door everyday then go and buy him. Different horses appeal to different people.

Who is he by ? I think he is plenty for the current state of the market, but when you factor in the cost of the breeder keeping the infoal mare for 11 months, the vet work, the stud fee and the raising of the foal, your payment will not get near the costs of getting the foal on the ground.

The comment of a couple of trims will sort out the feet is, I think, a little optimistic. It could take the best part of a year of corrective and very frequent trimming to sort out the feet. It is well worth the effort though. My foal had a club foot but it was corrected and there is no difference to be seen now. You just need to add onto the purchase price the cost of cutting him and correcting his feet.

Good luck if you buy him.
 
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