Food Help/Recommendations

GrassChop said:
I was looking at their kibble which is a meat and cereals and my mind goes straight to thinking "oh god, cereals" but that's because I'm used to horse feed! Maybe I was going wrong by looking for food that had a higher meat content thinking it was better, perhaps that's the issue?
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Hard to know, try the tins and see how you get on.
 
Clodagh said:
And if you want to feed kibble I’ll bang the Millie’s wolfheart drum again. Tawny is a walking nightmare with food but she’s grand on all of theirs.
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I had looked at their food and it does sound good! I do wonder if maybe the higher meat content is the problem and maybe too much for him but we'll see. Process of elimination at the moment and will speak to the vet!
 
Teaselmeg said:
Definitely get his poop tested to rule out Giardia/Campylobacter/ Salmonella etc. Chappie ( tinned) is a good place to start, it's well known to help dogs with dodgy tums. I would avoid any 'shop own brand' food, it does tend to be low in good nutrition. The All About Dog Food website is a good place to research different foods.
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Thanks!
I have had a good scan of all dog food on that website. The Lifestage was rated 71% for the puppy food! The Chappie is only 38% which I'm guessing is down to nutritional value.
 
CorvusCorax said:
The website is a guide/a generalisation. I've known dogs fed on the best of the best and it makes them shit through the eye of a needle, and dogs fed on absolute mulch that look like seals. The trick is finding what works.
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Bizarrely Scout is skin and bone on good food and actually sticks something on his ribs with rubbish.
But the poo… we seek to compromise.
 
Agree, original chappie. It does smell a bit but bearable.
As others have said may have some internal damage.
I always thought that chicken was not the gentlest thing for sensitive dogs, and that Lamb based products were more suitable.
I just don't think that kibble of any type is always suitable for all dogs
 
GrassChop said:
Thanks!
I have had a good scan of all dog food on that website. The Lifestage was rated 71% for the puppy food! The Chappie is only 38% which I'm guessing is down to nutritional value.
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Was that Chappie original or the dry food ? The tins don't have the greatest ingredients, but the food does work really well with dodgy tummies. The Chappie kibble is awful and is definitely to be avoided.

Tinned Chappie not a food I would feed long term.
 
Teaselmeg said:
Was that Chappie original or the dry food ? The tins don't have the greatest ingredients, but the food does work really well with dodgy tummies. The Chappie kibble is awful and is definitely to be avoided.

Tinned Chappie not a food I would feed long term.
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Chappie Original is a weird one, it stinks and hasn't the best ingredients but just seems to work. My old heeler who has kidney disease developed pancreatitis on top of it. He was hospitalised for several days and tube fed and when he came home the vets recommended Chappie Original to get him going again, it did the job and we were then able to change him on to another kidney/pancreas friendly diet long term.
 
My lurcher seems to have sensitive stomach and I ended up with burgess sensitive turkey. It’s got less meat but he looks well and has plenty of energy. I was feeding my terriers on Wolfworthy which is as close to raw as I could get he and they did well on it so tried to slowly change the lurcher over but his poos we’re awful so I changed them all to burgess… I also now give yumove digestive care to all just to help
 
MurphysMinder said:
Chappie Original is a weird one, it stinks and hasn't the best ingredients but just seems to work. My old heeler who has kidney disease developed pancreatitis on top of it. He was hospitalised for several days and tube fed and when he came home the vets recommended Chappie Original to get him going again, it did the job and we were then able to change him on to another kidney/pancreas friendly diet long term.
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I actually thought it didn't smell that awful! Obviously still smelt like dog food but it was like that salmon paste you can get in a jar for human consumption 😂

Sorry to hear about your boy, I hope he is okay now!
 
Teaselmeg said:
Was that Chappie original or the dry food ? The tins don't have the greatest ingredients, but the food does work really well with dodgy tummies. The Chappie kibble is awful and is definitely to be avoided.

Tinned Chappie not a food I would feed long term.
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The 38% rating was based on the original tinned food.
 
GrassChop said:
I actually thought it didn't smell that awful! Obviously still smelt like dog food but it was like that salmon paste you can get in a jar for human consumption 😂

Sorry to hear about your boy, I hope he is okay now!
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Thank you . He’s doing ok , his kidney level are still a bit high but as they were “off the scale” it’s an improvement. He has put his weight back on ( lost a kg in a couple of weeks and was only 6.5 to start ). He’ll be 14 in May but is happy and full of energy so that’ll do for us .
 
GrassChop said:
The 38% rating was based on the original tinned food.
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Yes its unlikely to rate that high due to the quality of the ingredients, but it is useful for dodgy tums. I had a dog with acute pancreatitis, the vet said she could have Royal Canin special food or the Chappie, we went for the Chappie and she was fine. I weaned her back onto her normal food about a month later ( which was low fat anyway).
 
Teaselmeg said:
Definitely get his poop tested to rule out Giardia/Campylobacter/ Salmonella etc. Chappie ( tinned) is a good place to start, it's well known to help dogs with dodgy tums. I would avoid any 'shop own brand' food, it does tend to be low in good nutrition. The All About Dog Food website is a good place to research different foods.
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Not always - our local shops and Mole's own brand are far better quality than some leading brands, it's what suits each dog at the end of the day. Chappie is excellent for sensitive tums, and my cocker is doing the best he's ever done on Aldi's wet food trays, no more constipation!!
 
Jenko109 said:
Unpopular opinion, but I find grain free doesn't suit every dog.

*runs and hides*
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There is no with grain food with a decent meat content, I wish I would but top quality kibble with grain instead of peas or potato but you just can’t.
Would be delighted to be corrected.
 
So the poos are still solid which is great but now he's not drinking much water! I know that there will be water content in the wet food but he has a fresh big bowl of water every day and it's barely being touched now whereas before, he would have consumed 3/4 of it by the end of the day. 🤦‍♀️ Surely the wet food wouldn't be enough for the whole day?
 
I wouldn't worry. He's on a good diet now, that isn't stuffed with additives. Is he happy and lively? The old vet that I used to work with reckoned dogs are scavengers, and should not be fed 100% meat. He used to tell people to feed butcher's scraps mixed with any left overs from the family meals, and give them a knuckle bone to provide entertainment. This was 50 years ago, and the dog food market wasn't really what it is today, but we didn't see the skin and bowel issues that are more common today, unless people just ignored them!
 
ester said:
I mean I don’t think the grain free dcm situ has been resolved has it?
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No idea.

To be clear I'm not indicating that grain free is unhealthy. I generally feed grain free.

I have however had dogs in the past that have been at their most settled on a cheaper food that does contain grain and I have had to admit defeat and accept that what suits the dog is what suits the dog 🙈
 
GrassChop said:
So the poos are still solid which is great but now he's not drinking much water! I know that there will be water content in the wet food but he has a fresh big bowl of water every day and it's barely being touched now whereas before, he would have consumed 3/4 of it by the end of the day. 🤦‍♀️ Surely the wet food wouldn't be enough for the whole day?
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Our 3 dogs are mainly raw fed but occasionally have kibble. (Luckily they seem to be able to eat anything). When they have kibble they are so thirsty, I seem to be constantly refreshing the water bowls. It puts me off kibble tbh - I wonder if it's the canine equivalent of human ready meals that are full of over processed stuff and salt. On the raw they really only have a drink straight after a meal or if they've been racing around the fields.
 
Highmileagecob said:
I wouldn't worry. He's on a good diet now, that isn't stuffed with additives. Is he happy and lively? The old vet that I used to work with reckoned dogs are scavengers, and should not be fed 100% meat. He used to tell people to feed butcher's scraps mixed with any left overs from the family meals, and give them a knuckle bone to provide entertainment. This was 50 years ago, and the dog food market wasn't really what it is today, but we didn't see the skin and bowel issues that are more common today, unless people just ignored them!
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Extremely happy and lively! The farts have also stopped and he's not pooing anywhere near as much as he was. It's a normal amount now. Definitely more comfortable.
 
Not sure if it is the right place to ask but i am a bit confused about dog food.

Do you feed your dogs with grain or not ? By grain, i mean cereals, like corn.

Nouille my 8 years old Basset would benefit for a senior feed, for older dog as apparently they contains more oligo elements for the joints.

The breeder told me that it was better to feed grain free but now the vet tells me that it's better to feed with grains...

She has troubles to keep her weight down after spaying.

Thank you in advance.
 
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