AmyMay
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Was there a video I missed?She said it doesnt look right behind
For those actively looking to buy a horse - how hard is it now?
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Tiddlypom
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My aspirations and abilities have certainly changed as I’ve got older.
Getting time back in the saddle before looking to buy would be really beneficial to find out what you enjoy now, as opposed to 10 or 20 years ago.
I’ve surprised myself by still hugely enjoying riding out in open undulating country, but strictly only on the right horses. The right ones, I’m up for anything. The wrong horse (for me), I would want to get straight off.
Getting time back in the saddle before looking to buy would be really beneficial to find out what you enjoy now, as opposed to 10 or 20 years ago.
I’ve surprised myself by still hugely enjoying riding out in open undulating country, but strictly only on the right horses. The right ones, I’m up for anything. The wrong horse (for me), I would want to get straight off.
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Not slacking multitasking
something that moves/jumps less extravagantly probably less likely to break too.
w1bbler
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I was trying to work out how to word this. I've just watched a friend over horse herself, trying to replace the amazing 20 Yr old she's just lost & forgetting what he was like 16yrs ago + how much confidence she had lost.
It's hard as we get older. I was forced down the overly sensible horse route after a stroke, but I'm now enjoying him far more than I ever thought possible. It's been so much fun turning a slightly bargy cob into a finger tip controllable superstar.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
It is tough and no mistake. I bought a great horse for a capable 65 year old to ride. But there are many days when I really want to be on the great horse for a competitive 30 year old risk taker to ride. I'm learning a whole new skill of "ride the horse you're on", but some days that's not a easy as it sounds.
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Horseysheepy
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I also hope you don't take what posters have said here the wrong way, as I do agree.
Most of us fall under the 'leisure rider' category that just want an easy going horse for fun and giggles and aspire to do the low level things and hacking. These horses are certainly worth their weight (plus more!) In gold and are in hefty demand! I wish the lamb trade was as fruitful!!!
I'm in my late 40"s with 3 to break in, and two will be sold. As a perimenopausal women, I'm definitely not the young sprite I used to be and the one thing I have noticed is my enthusiasm is struggling a little. But I have a responsibility to train these young horses to be good people and have to keep going!
Sometimes, especially how the weather has been lately, wet, wet and more wet, I often think I would quite like that easy going all-rounder, 8-12 years old,ready to go and have a blast on. But I'll get there soon!
I agree with others, I think you'd find more happiness and enjoyment out of a horse not as highly tuned and a little more steady Eddie.
It's time you had some care free fun with a horse, who may not be pretty or a world-beater, but just a good person.
Most of us fall under the 'leisure rider' category that just want an easy going horse for fun and giggles and aspire to do the low level things and hacking. These horses are certainly worth their weight (plus more!) In gold and are in hefty demand! I wish the lamb trade was as fruitful!!!
I'm in my late 40"s with 3 to break in, and two will be sold. As a perimenopausal women, I'm definitely not the young sprite I used to be and the one thing I have noticed is my enthusiasm is struggling a little. But I have a responsibility to train these young horses to be good people and have to keep going!
Sometimes, especially how the weather has been lately, wet, wet and more wet, I often think I would quite like that easy going all-rounder, 8-12 years old,ready to go and have a blast on. But I'll get there soon!
I agree with others, I think you'd find more happiness and enjoyment out of a horse not as highly tuned and a little more steady Eddie.
It's time you had some care free fun with a horse, who may not be pretty or a world-beater, but just a good person.
SO1
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I am normally very much of the hold out and get what you want rather than being influenced by others. However if I remember rightly your mum is quite elderly and in not in the best of health and you have also had a few scares on Lari.
The flashy scopy competition WBs in the price range you are looking at are more likely to have some quirks or management issues or need bringing on which might be ok if you have plenty of time and confidence.
However if you think you might need to support your mum more and you might need time to get your confidence back and having to fit this round work and being on DIY it might be so much easier to have a less athletic horse that can give you a fun confidence giving ride around 90cm and that does not need a lot of work to keep it ticking over/safe/sound.
Alternatively if your dream is to be really competitive at BS and you don't want to let go of the dream maybe save up for longer to increase your budget to give you more choices.
Having recently spent 8.5k on my 5 year old 13.2 new forest I can't see how 10-12k will be enough to buy you a sound, competitive, straightforward WB or ISH horse to competitive at the level of BS that you apsire to that is fit and ready for you to have some fun on and suitable for an amateur. After all you have gone through with Larri and with loosing Bailey prior to that the last thing yoi need is more stress or to lose your confidence on something quirky.
The flashy scopy competition WBs in the price range you are looking at are more likely to have some quirks or management issues or need bringing on which might be ok if you have plenty of time and confidence.
However if you think you might need to support your mum more and you might need time to get your confidence back and having to fit this round work and being on DIY it might be so much easier to have a less athletic horse that can give you a fun confidence giving ride around 90cm and that does not need a lot of work to keep it ticking over/safe/sound.
Alternatively if your dream is to be really competitive at BS and you don't want to let go of the dream maybe save up for longer to increase your budget to give you more choices.
Having recently spent 8.5k on my 5 year old 13.2 new forest I can't see how 10-12k will be enough to buy you a sound, competitive, straightforward WB or ISH horse to competitive at the level of BS that you apsire to that is fit and ready for you to have some fun on and suitable for an amateur. After all you have gone through with Larri and with loosing Bailey prior to that the last thing yoi need is more stress or to lose your confidence on something quirky.
Surbie
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Are you sure? I can't find that on the thread, did I miss something? Only he looks pretty good and a friend of mine is looking.She said it doesnt look right behind
All I can find are posts saying he is possibly too cheap and there is mention of a timewaster, which could mean anything.
Barton Bounty
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Yeah , sorry it was said just to me as a conversation, i didnt notice anything significant to be honest
Jambarissa
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I started looking pruperky ratter than window shopping at the beginning of September and have has my new lovely bomb proof happy hacker 4 weeks.
This was the first time I didn't just buy the first horse I saw. Considering what I was looking at, some were silly money and 2 that I saw but weren't suitable for reasons other than price called me later to see if moving the price would help.
In the end I think I've paid too much considering what the horse is trained to do (nothing!) but she's the perfect age, size, temperament, behaviour and with a bit of work she'll be worth it even in a falling market.
I am very glad the one I offered on messed me about. This one is perfect.
This was the first time I didn't just buy the first horse I saw. Considering what I was looking at, some were silly money and 2 that I saw but weren't suitable for reasons other than price called me later to see if moving the price would help.
In the end I think I've paid too much considering what the horse is trained to do (nothing!) but she's the perfect age, size, temperament, behaviour and with a bit of work she'll be worth it even in a falling market.
I am very glad the one I offered on messed me about. This one is perfect.
Red-1
I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
I used to have flashy ones. Then I felt awful when mum was ill and bought Rigsby, common old cob! I now also have BH, who, truth be told, I present as a hunter type but he would also fatten and trim to be a maxi cob!
I am having a stack of fun with both.
I have recently started to share a fancy horse. I get to go prance for half an hour a week on a fancy one, then scuttle home to my boys!
Birker2020
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I only sent you a rather annoyed but polite in the circumstances PM when you very unkindly accused or intimated me and my vet of insurance fraud in respect of Lari. I'm sure you would have reacted like I did given the circumstances. But say no more.
I will say it again that horses under 10k are as a general rule having followed the market for 18 months are waste of time because they invariably have something wrong with them. You only have to look at the descriptions, read between the lines or watch their videos to see that.
I am looking for a school master sort as I can't afford anymore nasty falls with something spooky like Bailey was. I won't be competing straight away and i intend to take things very slowly with a new horse. I will also have a pro rider every couple of weeks and a lesson every week to start with. I think that's sensible.
So I'm aiming more at the 10 - 14 year age range I think this time around. I appreciate your concern as I know it's done with best intentions.
I'm not looking for a world beater. And I'm not looking now anyway, my stable has been taken until I find one so the pressure is off me and I can wait till the spring unless something amazing jumps out.
I can also increase my budget by then too.
Birker2020
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Aw no I don't want to compete BS. I last did that in 2006. I just want to pop round 80cm, 90cm that type of thing, do a bit of dressage. I HAVE to have something relatively experienced. I know you can't mitigate all the risks but by finding a ISH or WB that is older and hopefully a bit more sensible and by looking at the 10-14 yr age range I thought that I would be in a better position as an older, fatter and rusty old woman
Barton Bounty
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Something will come up when your readyAw no I don't want to compete BS. I last did that in 2006. I just want to pop round 80cm, 90cm that type of thing, do a bit of dressage. I HAVE to have something relatively experienced. I know you can't mitigate all the risks but by finding a ISH or WB that is older and hopefully a bit more sensible and by looking at the 10-14 yr age range I thought that I would be in a better position as an older, fatter and rusty old woman
Birker2020
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Too right. No rush. I might go and try a couple near me, maybe that are not my ideal type to see if it changes my prerequisite too. I am prepared to be open minded to an extent.
Barton Bounty
Just simply loving life with Orbi 🥰
I think that would be good for you, get you back in the saddle and give you a taster of what you do and dont want!
SO1
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I think saving up and adding an extra 5k you could have something like this jumping nicely in very poor weather.
www.horsequest.co.uk
17hh 5yo Bay Gelding SJ Event Allrounder
Lovely big homebred young horse.<br/><br/>Slowly produced & given time to mature.<br/><br/>Started jumping round British Novice courses & ready to go on.<br/><br/>Has been XC schooling proving bold & brave.<br/><br/>Hacks out regularly with amateur rider. <br/><br/>For sale due to owners...
Clodagh
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Dos the 16.2 middleweight hunter no longer exist? Everything is a competition horse. What a shame for people who just want a nice sane horse to have fun with.
AdorableAlice
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A fair few on the hunter/teamchase page of HQ, including a super raw 3yr old ID who is cheap for what he is and will be.
It seems anything that has been in a dressage test or popped round a clear round is deemed a comp horse and marketed as such. The ID pages and groups have good strong sorts for sale.
Clodagh
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In my fb feed sometimes I get ads for hunters. I never really look at them so can’t tell you who places them, but they have lovely horses.
Maybe huntingclassifieds.co.uk?
Maybe huntingclassifieds.co.uk?
Clodagh
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Any half decent hunter would jump discovery anyway, and be a lot easier to get there!
Birker2020
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I looked at that earlier but too young really x he was good in that downpour bless himI think saving up and adding an extra 5k you could have something like this jumping nicely in very poor weather.
17hh 5yo Bay Gelding SJ Event Allrounder
Lovely big homebred young horse.<br/><br/>Slowly produced & given time to mature.<br/><br/>Started jumping round British Novice courses & ready to go on.<br/><br/>Has been XC schooling proving bold & brave.<br/><br/>Hacks out regularly with amateur rider. <br/><br/>For sale due to owners...
maya2008
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I wouldn’t pay that kind of money for a horse as I am not looking to do the kind of stuff you are. Ive got Orbitand I could make him into him if I really wanted but I dont
too old for that
I actually much prefer to have a horse from scratch and ride it, not just be the passenger of an ‘I can do it horse’ I like to teach the horse to do it. Be the first to ride past the tractor, be the first to canter, be the first to Jump
Now you see my husband likes ME to do all the firsts so he’s seen them happen and knows what he’s getting…
I thought of this thread the other day… how hard is it now? I have no idea, we drove 2.5 hours because my husband insisted he wanted to go to the Chagford sales…and he came back with a very cute 6 month old chestnut colt to make the correct height. One for him, one for the kids, and an ‘oops’ for me! So 3 in one day, 300 to look at. Yes there’s the waiting for them to grow up, but my husband is actually looking forwards to that. For him, having a horse is about having a much loved pet who you can, when they’re old enough, go on mounted adventures with. In the meantime, he’s planning the adventures to be in-hand.
Barton Bounty
Just simply loving life with Orbi 🥰
I find it so rewarding to do it myself, its so satisfying to know you have put in all the hard work, all the trust your building along the way too. You should see Orby alreadyNow you see my husband likes ME to do all the firsts so he’s seen them happen and knows what he’s getting…
I thought of this thread the other day… how hard is it now? I have no idea, we drove 2.5 hours because my husband insisted he wanted to go to the Chagford sales…and he came back with a very cute 6 month old chestnut colt to make the correct height. One for him, one for the kids, and an ‘oops’ for me! So 3 in one day, 300 to look at. Yes there’s the waiting for them to grow up, but my husband is actually looking forwards to that. For him, having a horse is about having a much loved pet who you can, when they’re old enough, go on mounted adventures with. In the meantime, he’s planning the adventures to be in-hand.
you would think he was glued to me You and hubby are going to have so much fun too!!!
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
You're going to have to explain "too young" to me in the context of buying that horse
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JBM
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Cuz he’s 5 and she wants 10-14?
I believe that’s the age range now
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
That doesn't explain anything. Why not buy a well behaved 5 year old if it's doing the job you want it for?
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JBM
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Because she wants a 10-14yo? It’s her money
SO1
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I did not want a 5 year old either but ended up with one again due to not being able to find the right horse within budget that was older. It is quite hard to find the 8-12 year olds. Admittedly I was fussy on breed in a way that you are not.
I am sure you will find the right one in time.
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