Full livery - cost????

[keeperscottage]

We're about to take on a yard which has six indoor stables, and, since we ony have four horses, we'd like to let the remaining two stables on a full livery basis. We want to offer mucking out, turn out, bring in, rug change etc as standard with extras (ie, tack cleaning, exercise etc) optional.

So, based on seven days muck out, turn out, bring in, feed, hay, straw etc, and in a pretty affluent area, what should we charge? Rent to the "landlord" per stable is approx £20 per week.

Stables are in a large barn, secure tack room, lovely grazing and with large arena.

 

[ofcourseyoucan]

i would think that the additional business rates and commercial insurance would make this a non viable proposition? for only 2 stables! In warwickshire a full livery with no exercise is between 75 and 100 per week, including all feed bedding haylage grooming, rugs etc. But the cost of commercial insurance etc would soon eat away any 'profit' when you take away your own time. Liveries can be hard work for no gratification. i would keep the 2 boxes as spare for your own use and enjoy the facilities as your own!!

 

[ofcourseyoucan]

Also check your agreement as to sub letting?

 

[Snowysadude]

Depends whereabouts in the country you are - i am in leicestershire at the moment and that costs me £90 a week and includes all hay, standard feed and one bale of shaving a week (or unlimited straw), which i think is cheap compared to watford (where i live when i am home from university) which can be anywhere from £120+ depending on the yard and its facilities. Of course if you dont have a good school i would not pay for full livery at anywhere near those prices though!

Both my yards have a floodlit good size outdoor school, decent turnout all year round (during the day), a horsewalker and are really well run - whereabouts in hertfordshire are you (roughly)?

 

[keeperscottage]

Yes, landlord is quite agreeable to "sub-letting"!

 

[milliepops]

At our yard in South Herefordshire, full livery is £100/wk, all in (apart from exercise). Same cost for hunting livery (so includes preparation of horse for 2 hunting days a week, and sorting it out at the end of the day).

 

[spacefaer]

work out your direct costs - then add time and indirect costs.... then work it out!

I did it for a friend not so long ago - fed, mucked out, rugged, unlimited straw and hay (no turnout as on box rest) etc etc and worked out that I was doing it for less than the minimum wage..... good thing she was a friend!

I didn't have any business rates or commercial insurance to add either

 

[tabithakat64]

£90 a week, where abouts are you renting I'm curious

 

[mickey]

£100/week at decent yard with competent full time staff and overnight attendance on yard.
1/2 bale shavings a day, unlimited haylage or hay (from large bales but decent quality), feed twice a day, rug up, turn out and get in, rugs off, individual grazing (but quite limited), standard feed, grooming, use of rubber menage (but surface not that good now, one end floods in the winter).
Kent