Full livery... is this a fair request?

[mbbillz]

I have my new horse on 5 day full livery and am new to the whole livery thing as previously always had horses at home.

Anyway I was wondering what the etiquette around stable “modifications” is? Would it be unreasonable to ask if I can install a haybar for example or rubber mats? I think some of the other stables have mats so don’t think they’re a problem as not so “permanent”. However the haybar has to be drilled to the wall... so is that like a huge no no to ask or do you think most yards would be accommodating (I could refill the holes if I leave or something ?)?

I realise the best way to find out is to just ask but just wanted to hear your thoughts first. I'm currently still figuring out the balance between what’s reasonable and what’s not and don’t want to be that “fussy” person lol.

Obviously I would front the cost of the item/installation.

 

[Littlebear]

Depends on the yard; I’ve been on full livery yards where you couldn’t put anything at all up and others you could pretty much do what you like in terms of fixtures.

 

[doodle]

I can’t imagine rubber mats will be an issue. A couple of people but up hay bars and just removed them when they left. I am guessing they asked first though.

 

[ihatework]

Perfectly fine to ask and it would be a harsh yard to say no

 

[mbbillz]

Maybe I will pluck up the courage to ask nicely then ?

 

[bouncing_ball]

If they say no to a haybar, they might allow a hay box which is what I use.

 

[mbbillz]

If they say no to a haybar, they might allow a hay box which is what I use.

Ooo interesting do you have a link? Just googled “hay box” and it just returned hay monthly subscription boxes (didn’t know they were a thing?!) ?

 

[bouncing_ball]

Ooo interesting do you have a link? Just googled “hay box” and it just returned hay monthly subscription boxes (didn’t know they were a thing?!) ?

https://www.horsefeeders.co.uk/shop/horse-feeders/hay-saver/

 

[Dave's Mam]

My yard allows pretty much any fixtures within reason, it's your stable. I have solar lights in mine with panels outside as my eyesight is crap!

 

[Sossigpoker]

Just ask , i put in a haybar on a previous yard. Rubber matting shouldn't be a problem anywhere really.

 

[Bernster]

If they say no to a haybar, they might allow a hay box which is what I use.

do these need to be secured when they’re used in a stable?

 

[Caol Ila]

Totally depends on your yard. My current one, you can construct whatever you like (some liveries have gone to town). Lucky me, the previous occupant of my stable had installed enough rug rails for the entire Lord of the Rings equine cast, so I didn't have to build a thing.

My previous yard, no f*(cking way could you add anything to a stable beyond rubber mats.

 

[Auslander]

I don't have a problem with requests for sensible modifications - so I'd be fine with haybars. I get cross when people do stuff without running it past me first, particularly when it's silly stuff.

 

[bouncing_ball]

do these need to be secured when they’re used in a stable?[/QUOT

do these need to be secured when they’re used in a stable?

I don’t secure mine. But I do make sure it is hard again a corner wall, with the lid sliding side against the wall. I think if you needed to weigh it down a bit you could pop a few paving stones in the bottom. But it is already fairly heavy.

Also I slightly nest it in place with bedding.

 

[blitznbobs]

I’ve never minded sensible requests (eg mirrors haybars etc... ) once had someone request dividing a small pony box in two and that was a none starter ...

(ps phone just autocorrected hay bars to gay bars which as a stable modification would be interesting and probably a lot more fun!)

 

[Leandy]

You can ask. They can say no if they wish. No harm in asking but to be honest if I were a yard owner I wouldn't be keen on the hay bar or any permanent attachments etc. You are paying for a livery service including use of a stable but I don't think you are entitled to treat the stable as your own. It isn't, nor do you rent that specific stable usually. What if the yard needs to move horses around for some reason? This happens sometimes on some yards, depending on circumstances.

 

[Ownedby4horses]

It sounds like a reasonable request to me. Ive been on a few yards in the UK where they liked to put up things themselves, you just supplied the item, showed them where you wanted them and they were put up (I suspect it was to make sure people didnt attempt themselves and make a mess of the stables).

 

[bouncing_ball]

You can ask. They can say no if they wish. No harm in asking but to be honest if I were a yard owner I wouldn't be keen on the hay bar or any permanent attachments etc. You are paying for a livery service including use of a stable but I don't think you are entitled to treat the stable as your own. It isn't, nor do you rent that specific stable usually. What if the yard needs to move horses around for some reason? This happens sometimes on some yards, depending on circumstances.

I consider my horses stable to be my my own space as long as I do nothing that can’t be reversed (and have permission from yard).

I’ve put mats down, I’ve mirrors on the wall, specific rings on the wall. insulating pipe foam to protect his head from the top of the door frame and the outside of the over hand. And the hay saver box. And the hanging rubber squeaky chicken.

It came with 3 rug rails, huge high alcove shelf, a large corner cupboard (from the last person whose horse was in it).

 

[Durhamchance]

Ooo interesting do you have a link? Just googled “hay box” and it just returned hay monthly subscription boxes (didn’t know they were a thing?!) ?

They're for rabbits! I refuse to pay that much for my buns and they have to suck it up on the hay I bring home from the yard lol

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I have my new horse on 5 day full livery and am new to the whole livery thing as previously always had horses at home.

Anyway I was wondering what the etiquette around stable “modifications” is? Would it be unreasonable to ask if I can install a haybar for example or rubber mats? I think some of the other stables have mats so don’t think they’re a problem as not so “permanent”. However the haybar has to be drilled to the wall... so is that like a huge no no to ask or do you think most yards would be accommodating (I could refill the holes if I leave or something ?)?

I realise the best way to find out is to just ask but just wanted to hear your thoughts first. I'm currently still figuring out the balance between what’s reasonable and what’s not and don’t want to be that “fussy” person lol.

Obviously I would front the cost of the item/installation.

We are part livery, and in the past livery has wanted to use hay bar and other screw in things, as long as they ask we are unlike;;y to complain
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