Gelderlanders (Gelders Paard) a rare but versatile breed.

Sorry I am in a silly mood. The pics above are lovely, having read this thread I am convinced the horse I saw in the field (the 'dream horse') was certainly a gelderlander. They are stunning!
 
My pony shares his field with a Gelderlander who unfortunately has quite bad ringbone and has been retired. He is the nicest person you could meet but a complete pansy outside the confines of the yard. I always tell people he is half horse half giraffe as his head carriage is so high, I'm 5'2" and have to go on tip toe to put his head collar on! He was a carriage horse in a previous life and we think he was worked very hard on the road and thats what caused his ringbone.
 
Ahh, Gelderlanders, my favourite subject. Here is my mare.

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A short video of her teaching me to jump, showing the action.



And she's got such a pretty face

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EllieBelly1 said:
. He is the nicest person you could meet but a complete pansy outside the confines of the yard. I always tell people he is half horse half giraffe as his head carriage is so high,
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Yep, my lad is a complete woss, hates hacking and is terrified of his own shadow. Even scared in the school of the robin who sits on his back in his stable!

We don't mention the G word! Giraffes are not our favourite subject! My lad is around 7ft when he puts his head in the air, then the G word comes out followed by many swear words!
Sorry to hear your friend has ringbone.
FDC
 
yay finally found some photos forgot that i had done weird things to my signature :o
So what do you think? She was such a lovely genuine mare if extremely accident prone I only got to ride her for the summer :(

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I think she looks like she has a bit of Gelderlander she certainly had a erm busy action in front
 
My mum brought a gelderlander, he was stunning! He was dark chestnut ( not quite liver) and he had a long blaze and four White socks and stripy hooves. He was very talented boy, he used to drive and show jump mainly, that was what he enjoyed. He used to do pretty much anything! In the driving he used to do horsse drawn weddings with a 210 year old navy blue carriage which was stunning and really suited him and in the sj he used to do 5ft courses with ease just popped over them xx
 
She's lovely looking and in great condition. She is a bit light boned for full Gelderlander but she could well be crossed with one (which is what most WBs are) and Gelderlander feet are generally bigger.

If you look at FDC's Captain's feet you will see what I mean. Mine aren't shown terribly well but I'll show you a photo of them when I get one tomorrow. They're great big clodhoppers.
 
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sheep said:
There's bloody loads of them where I am.

Although I am in the right country and my boyfriend comes from Gelderland.

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Does Gelderland actually exist? I thought it was a made up place in a Knights Tale :o

Rosie you know I think your boy is gorgeous!
 
Thanks :) she was lovely we had great fun teaching her to jump at the grand old age of 12 she certainly didn't have clodhoppers though:P she was sporting stilettos when she arrived before the farrier got hold of them.
I would love a Gelderlander I'm a sucker for a chestnut with lots of white.
 
cloball said:
yay finally found some photos forgot that i had done weird things to my signature :o
So what do you think? She was such a lovely genuine mare if extremely accident prone I only got to ride her for the summer :(

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I think she looks like she has a bit of Gelderlander she certainly had a erm busy action in front
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She looks more like a DWB than a Gelderlander, but then all DWB have Gelderlander in them.
FDC
 
9tails said:
She's lovely looking and in great condition. She is a bit light boned for full Gelderlander but she could well be crossed with one (which is what most WBs are) and Gelderlander feet are generally bigger.

If you look at FDC's Captain's feet you will see what I mean. Mine aren't shown terribly well but I'll show you a photo of them when I get one tomorrow. They're great big clodhoppers.
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Captain would like to disagree with your description of his "clodhopper feet" he would like you to know he has dainty toes:mad::p:D:D:D And would refer you to his sister's feet, which are huge!


FDC
 
Fany Du Champ said:
Is Velvet intelligent? Cappy is extremely intelligent and all the others I have met have been too.

FDC
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Yes, she is smart and stubborn, but genuine.
She's extremely alert, she always knows what is going on and will notice such things as the grass being a bit shorter along a small little-used footpath in a field when cantering.
She also does what she thinks the exercise is instead of what I'm actually asking. For example if we are in a circle (even if we have circled 10 times) I have to tell her that we don't do the circle anymore while we are on the track at the point where we started, otherwise she carry on with it for a bit before she's really sure that I want to go on the large track.

And Cappy, what are his peculiarities?



Also loving the photos, please keep them coming everyone :).
 
Fauvea said:
And Cappy, what are his peculiarities?
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How long do you have?

He is extremely intelligent and is a problem solver, he can open any gate or stable door and when he was on the dealer's yard he opened his door and let himself out, then went round letting all the other horses out, they caught it on CCTV! He will remove the field gate, then take himself back to his stable if the weather does not suit him. He does NOT do turn out in winter, he will not go out in the cold or rain. He likes a nice warm stable from beginning of October to end of April.


He has a sense of humour and one of his favourite tricks is to steal hats, dip them in his water and bring them back. He loves to "help" with the stable duties, he "helps" by throwing the shovel, fork or wheel barrow across the yard. One of the funniest things I have ever seen him do was went he was on field rest after being freeze branded, I threw some pears into the field, he decided he did not want his field mate to have them, so he went round and stamped on everyone near his friend! He hates parsnips and our YO put some that were for Fany in his bucket, he picked them out and threw them over his door.

He is opinionated and will not be bossed, he is very dominant if allowed but given respect and having things explained to him will turn him into a complete sweetie. He has an amazing work ethic, never asks to stop and learns incredibly quickly, so quickly that you have to be very careful what you teach him, because he never forgets.

He is very kind and gentle to those he likes, but is incredibly picky who he likes, he fools people because he is curious and appears to be a people horse, but once he has sussed them he will often totally ignore them and never speak to them again. He will not suffer fools or bullies.

Cappy is a very opinionated horse, and has no problem giving his opinions whether it is about hacking/ turn out during winter - he doesn't do either. But if he likes you, he will do anything for you (except hack out) To me he is the world, but he is a very quirky horse, certainly not everyone's cup of tea.

FDC
 
Haven't posted on H&H for ages, but could resist this post :)

I have a Dutch Harness Horse/ Tuigpaard. A lot of people think she is Gelderlander, but they are a completely different type.

If anyone knows DHH breeding then my girl's sire was Lorton (-Wouter), and her dam is from Fabricius (-Renovo)
 
lizziebell said:
Haven't posted on H&H for ages, but could resist this post :)

I have a Dutch Harness Horse/ Tuigpaard. A lot of people think she is Gelderlander, but they are a completely different type.

If anyone knows DHH breeding then my girl's sire was Lorton (-Wouter), and her dam is from Fabricius (-Renovo)
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The harness horses tend to be slightly lighter don't they? Also often have a high percentage of Hackney in their breeding, something that is banned from Gelderlanders. Do you have any pictures?
FDC
 
Fany Du Champ said:
The harness horses tend to be slightly lighter don't they? Also often have a high percentage of Hackney in their breeding, something that is banned from Gelderlanders. Do you have any pictures?
FDC
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Will dig out some pictures later, although I've only had her a year so haven't many good ones. She was advertised as a KWPN registered dutch warmblood, I didn't really suspect anything but a warmblood type and wasn't familiar with the driving horses at KWPN. My trainer thought she had "some" gelderlander in her, but it was only when I bought her and did some research I realised I'd bought a 100% Tuigpaard !!

Yes, they are lighter due to the introduction of the hackney, although there is not much hackney in the modern lines as they have now been Tuigpaards (I think hackney x Gelder becomes a tuigpaard/ DHH, therefore when that then breeds with another of the same the offspring is a Tuigpaard - if that makes sense!). My own girl is mostly Gelder - the only true hackney blood is one sire 4 generations ago.

A good website to see the bloodlines and how they are made up in the gelder types is http://www.gelderlanderhorse.nl/pedigree/nederlands

Proloog who Fauvea mentions is Gelder - he is also in my girls breeding.
 
I can't remember all Captain's pedigree, I know he has the following in his lines or as siblings. Gondelier,Ahoy, Patrick ( both sides) Elegant , who is his brother and who he looks very much like(Dam Wendy) , Parcival, Rubus B(Through Ahoy), Amor, Koss (through Amor) , Nimrod is in there too somewhere. I must check. He has 11 of the 16 registered stallions in his line.
Elegant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2UI6L3JxzM&feature=player_embedded#!

FDC
 
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