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yovon01

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I feel the need to encourage riders to read Balancing Act by Gerd Heuschmann. Am I alone....? I have many lovely friends with horses who sadly are breaking their horses through ignorance, don't get me wrong they love their horse and mean well but put pressure on both themselves and their horse to get to their goals taking short cuts. I know of maybe 1/2 dozen riders in the last 3 year's and have resorted to injecting mainly back and hocks to improve horse performance........as horse was stiff or lacking flexibility and relaxed forward tempo. Just want to spread the word time and patience is the best way forward.........thanks for reading any thoughts appreciated.
 
I was lucky enough to take my horse to his clinic last year....he rode her and it literally has changed my riding program and outlook
 
Btw Booboo how's your horses back did you go for injections??????? Vets rub their hands together because they make a fortune from people who break their horses.
 
I had no idea who he was before, or how to say his name but I was lucky enough to be invited to a demo/talk he was giving and was blown away. I loved everything he said and his approach. It's not a million miles away from how I'd been working and lots of the theory I was familiar with. The talk was in an indoor school and I made my friend stay to the very end with me, we where frozen and because he had a slide show running it was pitch black but it was great.
 
Grumpy Jewel said:
I had no idea who he was before, or how to say his name but I was lucky enough to be invited to a demo/talk he was giving and was blown away. I loved everything he said and his approach. It's not a million miles away from how I'd been working and lots of the theory I was familiar with. The talk was in an indoor school and I made my friend stay to the very end with me, we where frozen and because he had a slide show running it was pitch black but it was great.
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Was there too - flipping freezing!
 
I'm afraid GH has had one or two gaffs riding in public, and so his image has taken at hit on that regard. But I am one who takes about 30 rides to get accustomed to a horse, so I can't criticize!!

I live in an area of the USA where there are lots, and lots, and lots of international level jumper and dressage riders. The competitive dressage riders are, by FAR, the worst for wrecking horses. No contest.

I know jumper riders who give bare minimum care to their horses and have no such soundness issues as dressage riders who wrap, rub, chiro, massage, custom saddle fit, inject, supplement, laser, magnetic blanket and feng-shui their animals to death!! I understand what GH is getting at. I have one of his books and his DVD. Which you should get a hold of if you can. The initial images of them moving horses around the vet clinic like so much horse meat at the dog food factory do a good job of getting his point across.

In the USA, the horse industry is very much geared to reward competitive success. And so the horses find themselves in the care of the best showmen and salesmen, not the best horsemen.....
 
Ive never heard og the chap but agree with the sentiments you've expressed. I was fortune enough to find a Philippe Karl trained instructor and the emphasis is all about balance and harmony and understanding how the horse works and thinks. And above all respect for the horse.:)
 
yovon01 said:
Btw Booboo how's your horses back did you go for injections??????? Vets rub their hands together because they make a fortune from people who break their horses.
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Ah thank you for your concern, you sound like a really kind and caring person. R did have injections for his suspected KS and seemed a bit better but still having weird neurological reactions. He then was lame on his left fore and is on special shoes which seem to have done the trick for now, but who knows maybe my vet has been conning me all the while! Then again my vet is not DrH who I assume has made no money whatsoever from his self-promoting books and demos!
 
TrasaM said:
Ive never heard og the chap but agree with the sentiments you've expressed. I was fortune enough to find a Philippe Karl trained instructor and the emphasis is all about balance and harmony and understanding how the horse works and thinks. And above all respect for the horse.:)
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PK and DrH hate eachother's guts and training methods!
 
I was trying to start a discussion and didn't expect your ignorant remark........please take a moment to reflect, assuming you are not qualified to be on a par with Gerd and have nothing positive to contribute to this thread I suggestLeave
 
TrasaM said:
Interesting ! Then I stick with PK ;) :)

you'd think that given the number of centuries that humans have been riding horses that someone would have come up with the definitive method by now.
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Well there's no definative way for dealing with humans so I don't ever expect there to be one for dealing with horses either.
 
yovon01 said:
I was trying to start a discussion and didn't expect your ignorant remark........please take a moment to reflect, assuming you are not qualified to be on a par with Gerd and have nothing positive to contribute to this thread I suggestLeave
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If you were trying to start a discussion on a open forum you should not be surprised that people contribute to it. If you have a problem with me, may I suggest UI?

I am proud to not be on a par with this kind of riding:
http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.co...e-people-i-have-question-you-pics-475624.html

(scroll down for photo of Dr H on the black Friesian). To be honest I would rather be the ignorant, amateur numpty that I am than ride my horses this way.
 
Booboos said:
If you were trying to start a discussion on a open forum you should not be surprised that people contribute to it. If you have a problem with me, may I suggest UI?

I am proud to not be on a par with this kind of riding:
http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.co...e-people-i-have-question-you-pics-475624.html

(scroll down for photo of Dr H on the black Friesian). To be honest I would rather be the ignorant, amateur numpty that I am than ride my horses this way.
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Snapshots and old ground already well covered. The Freisian was being bolshy and later went beautifully and lightly and willingly? What was he supposed to do - sit there? Jump off?
 
Op - I think you maybe took the comment about riding a bit personally. A lot of people dislike the way gerd rides. Personally, I find his theory fascinating and agree with everything he says - how he actually rides in practice though is pretty .... strong, and can be a bit brutal. I have been very lucky to have a lesson with him but would not let him ride my horse, personally. I can see what he is trying to achieve, but it isn't pretty and a lot of horses rear, buck, and get very agitated (though at the end appear sort of unlocked and work absolutely beautifully).

I can see why with a remedial horse you might need to resort to riding so strongly (I am using neutral word here :-)) - sort of cruel to be kind (i only use the word cruel as its in the saying, not be because i necessarily think it is cruel£, but personally for a bog standard horse i don't like how upsetting the process is for the horse in the meanwhile. Each to thier own though.
 
Cont......and stressful lives it must manifest on our horses through our riding? If the can feel a fly on their body and twitch to shake it off then imagine driving seat clamped legs rigid arms.....you cannot dance free and naturally with a gun ti your gead
 
yovon01 said:
Cont......and stressful lives it must manifest on our horses through our riding? If the can feel a fly on their body and twitch to shake it off then imagine driving seat clamped legs rigid arms.....you cannot dance free and naturally with a gun ti your gead
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Good lord I need a drink .
 
The OP of this thread does seem to post quite a bit to *ahem* promote certain products, just had a look at the post history, interesting, from coligone to this chaps books and DVD's.......
 
brighteyes said:
Snapshots and old ground already well covered. The Freisian was being bolshy and later went beautifully and lightly and willingly? What was he supposed to do - sit there? Jump off?
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Well if he felt rollkur was the only way to go with the Freisian that is fine by me as I don't have a problem with rollkur...rather ironic though to be riding a horse in rollkur wearing an anti-rollkur t-shirt!

Jump off? Well PK and Klaus B do think he should jump off and Klaus B cite his refusal to stop riding as the reason for his break with the Xenophone society.

Snapshots are exactly what he used to criticise other people so I don't buy that either, not to mention that his snapshots were timestamped and went on for a very, very long time, so not really snapshots either.

I am also impressed by how all evidence of these photos has been removed from almost everywhere on the internet, so one rule for one and one rule for another (Dr H can use photos of other people in his book and mercilessly criticize them without citing any evidence whatsoever, but when it comes to his riding we are supposed to just admire with our cameras switched off!).
 
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