Gordon Ramsay Gets Dumped On
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Sags_Deer
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ha ha bet that would have been a great sight to see. i always remb an old boss did that to local council something to do with planning permission.
mickey
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Yea something tells me there would have been more than one expletive coming out of his mouth when he saw that lot on his doorstep!!!
airedale
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although his program ironically does try and point out how to keep animals properly andnot factory farmed. He's 'doing' lamb this series having done turkey before
I think he tries
JSP is enough to drive anyone barmy though
I think he tries
JSP is enough to drive anyone barmy though
sunflower
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That's about the level I'd expect from members of PETA....
Jemayni
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Omg, talk about save the trees! Some people have far too much time.
catembi
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Don't tar all Peta members with the same brush, please. A lot of us are quiet letter-writers. Have a good look at some of the videos on the Peta website for examples of things they're campaigning against. It's easy to be dismissive when it isn't you on the wrong side of the bars.
sunflower
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I take all PETA videos with a pinch of salt actually. I am not tarring members with the same brush but as an organisation I have a very low opinion of them. I also feel they could have chosen a better target. I obviously haven't seen the horse meat episode yet but Gordon Ramsey is one of the only high-profile chefs on tv to actively highlight the importance of choosing meat from reputable sources where animal welfare is a priority throughout.
Weezy
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How utterly pathetic of PETA.
weevil
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How utterly pathetic of PETA.
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Yup. Can't really see how anyone is expected to take them seriously when they pull stunts like that *rolls eyes*
How utterly pathetic of PETA.
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Yup. Can't really see how anyone is expected to take them seriously when they pull stunts like that *rolls eyes*
Folara
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I really dont see what is so wrong with eating horsemeat. I know we 'dont' in the country but it is basically just another feasible source of meat.
Gordon Ramsey may be a berk sometimes but at least he does advocate buying meat from reputable sources. Isnt that more important than the 'type' of meat we eat?
Peta didnt think very hard when they pulled that stunt!
Gordon Ramsey may be a berk sometimes but at least he does advocate buying meat from reputable sources. Isnt that more important than the 'type' of meat we eat?
Peta didnt think very hard when they pulled that stunt!
Rachel_M
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How short sighted.
A waste of our taxpayers money having the clean the crap up.
A waste of our taxpayers money having the clean the crap up.
wombat
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i think its more about the way horses are slaughtered.. it is upsetting having seen many vids... horses are transported in lorries desinged for cows... which give no head room for the horses.. and when the get to the slaughter houses... lets put this way its not a very nice site what it can be like in the lorries...
it dose upset me that people eat horse meat.. as it is to me your eatting some ones pet.. but thats my view!
and can i say i dont feel any type of animal should be transported for long times..
it dose upset me that people eat horse meat.. as it is to me your eatting some ones pet.. but thats my view!
and can i say i dont feel any type of animal should be transported for long times..
weevil
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i think its more about the way horses are slaughtered..
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I don't really think it's fair to comment on this until after I have seen it (I believe the programme is on tonight at 9PM)
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dose upset me that people eat horse meat.. as it is to me your eatting some ones pet
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Well, you can say the same thing about eating any type of meat. I personlly have no wish to eat horsemeat but I have no problem with people who do as long as the animals are treated well beforehand, the same as any animals bred for slaughter.
i think its more about the way horses are slaughtered..
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I don't really think it's fair to comment on this until after I have seen it (I believe the programme is on tonight at 9PM)
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dose upset me that people eat horse meat.. as it is to me your eatting some ones pet
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Well, you can say the same thing about eating any type of meat. I personlly have no wish to eat horsemeat but I have no problem with people who do as long as the animals are treated well beforehand, the same as any animals bred for slaughter.
wombat
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i think it is a fiar comment as i have seen how it is done.. thank you.. i have seen many vids..
1985
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Personally it just seems wrong to me, horses, in my eyes, are not bred soley for food unlike cows ect. Obviously im bias too due to my bond and love for horses. Cows and sheep i can distinguish as "food", horses i see as pets, working animals ect. And having watched a great number of the "horse slaughter" videos on youtube (I wanted to see it for myself) i can honestly say it seriously disturbed me. I know its daft but I cant help thinking that aftercarrying us in so many wars and hardtimes, helping us build the country, they deserve a bit more. It just seems wrong. Id advise anyone with a strong stomach to watch some a few of them before deciding. Just my opinion though, it may be rubbish but hey ho x
weevil
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Not PETA vids by any chance were they...
Weezy
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i think it is a fiar comment as i have seen how it is done.. thank you.. i have seen many vids..
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yes and I will bet they are ALL anti-meat campaigns!
i think it is a fiar comment as i have seen how it is done.. thank you.. i have seen many vids..
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yes and I will bet they are ALL anti-meat campaigns!
valentine
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The process that these horse have to go through is barbric and should not be allowed to continue..... this doesnt just mean the horses i means all animals, i agree that all meat is the same but i do feel that any meat eater should be prepared to eat all meats there is no difference between sheep , cows and horses!!! Its a shame that most people dont have compassion and passion for these animals and campain for better treatment. We wouldnt do this to humans? i would have loved to see gordon ramseys face jumped up twat!
pixie
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Yes, which is why GR encourages people to buy good quality free range meat, rather than the cheap intensively farmed crap that people buy without even wondering why its actually cheap...
sunflower
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Did you actually watch the show? Yes, I am fully aware that many animals suffer appalling conditions and treatment as part of the meat industry but the Gordon Ramsey show makes a point of not using intensively reared meat etc. In other shows they have highlighted the use of independent abbatoirs and are one of the only cookery shows on tv to actively promote the use of meat from reputable sources and to show where the meat they use comes from.
Judie
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What amazes me is people keep their horses and swear they love them to bits, spend every waking moment thinking about them, then in their old age sell them (rather than taking them to the slaughter house themselves) and don't really know what's happend to them, so these poor horses end up on a lorry destined for France or Denmark, endure horrible journeys - that's if they live that long - and end up in abattoirs somewhere in Europe who do not have the same standards as the UK. If people in this country actually took their horses to the abattoir they would know that their long life friend never went through the shipping process - we owe them that surely?
I really wish people in this country would accept horse meat, horses would then be farmed according to our welfare standards which are the best in Europe, have a good quality of live and be destroyed humanly.
PETA doing what they did is just stupid and yet again tarrs all horse owners with the same brush.
And what is a pet? A wild animal we as humans have decided we like to look after - animals just don't see it that way, so long as they are fed, watered, have the freedom to be the animal they are, they are happy. We have run herds of youngsters out together, not really touching them until they're 3yro, I don't think any of them looked at the older horses and said "Gee, I can't wait to be a 'pet'".....
I don't want to offend anyone with my comments, this is just my personal opinion
What amazes me is people keep their horses and swear they love them to bits, spend every waking moment thinking about them, then in their old age sell them (rather than taking them to the slaughter house themselves) and don't really know what's happend to them, so these poor horses end up on a lorry destined for France or Denmark, endure horrible journeys - that's if they live that long - and end up in abattoirs somewhere in Europe who do not have the same standards as the UK. If people in this country actually took their horses to the abattoir they would know that their long life friend never went through the shipping process - we owe them that surely?
I really wish people in this country would accept horse meat, horses would then be farmed according to our welfare standards which are the best in Europe, have a good quality of live and be destroyed humanly.
PETA doing what they did is just stupid and yet again tarrs all horse owners with the same brush.
And what is a pet? A wild animal we as humans have decided we like to look after - animals just don't see it that way, so long as they are fed, watered, have the freedom to be the animal they are, they are happy. We have run herds of youngsters out together, not really touching them until they're 3yro, I don't think any of them looked at the older horses and said "Gee, I can't wait to be a 'pet'".....
I don't want to offend anyone with my comments, this is just my personal opinion
MagicMelon
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I personally think PETA do a great job. Yes, they do the odd protest in an odd way but they get their point across. I can't believe everyone is so against the work they do and what they stand for (probably simply because they are against hunting I guess!). You cannot love animals if you are against PETA IMO. All they want is what's best for them.
How does PETA tar us horse owners with the same brush? What did they say, have I missed something?
Agree with your comments about the fact that people shouldn't send their "much-loved" horse off to some foreign abbatoir. It's sick. Personally though I wouldn't even send my horses to any slaughter house (even locally). Mine will die and be buried at home.
I don't agree with GR using horse meat. It is not something I believe we should encourage in our country. Horses are not for eating. That's my opinion. It's like eating dogs / cats / monkeys etc. Just because they do it in other countries, doesn't mean it's right in ours.
How does PETA tar us horse owners with the same brush? What did they say, have I missed something?
Agree with your comments about the fact that people shouldn't send their "much-loved" horse off to some foreign abbatoir. It's sick. Personally though I wouldn't even send my horses to any slaughter house (even locally). Mine will die and be buried at home.
I don't agree with GR using horse meat. It is not something I believe we should encourage in our country. Horses are not for eating. That's my opinion. It's like eating dogs / cats / monkeys etc. Just because they do it in other countries, doesn't mean it's right in ours.
nokia
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At least PETA get off their backsides and do something about animal welfare, than just typing silly Comments on this forum.
They are making a point about the Horrendous conditions that horses have to endure to arrive on the dinner table, or BBQ.
They are making a point about the Horrendous conditions that horses have to endure to arrive on the dinner table, or BBQ.
Judie
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How does PETA tar us horse owners with the same brush? What did they say, have I missed something?
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Not something they said, but by the daft act of dumping all that outside GR's door, not one of their better ideas IMO.
How does PETA tar us horse owners with the same brush? What did they say, have I missed something?
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Not something they said, but by the daft act of dumping all that outside GR's door, not one of their better ideas IMO.
sunflower
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At least PETA get off their backsides and do something about animal welfare, than just typing silly Comments on this forum.
They are making a point about the Horrendous conditions that horses have to endure to arrive on the dinner table, or BBQ.
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OK, but the phrase 'preaching to the converted' springs to mind. They targeted a chef who actually does care about the source of the meat he uses and is shown to use organically reared meat etc. The whole point of rearing his own animals to use in the restaurant is to raise awareness of where our food comes from and to make people think about what they are eating.
At least PETA get off their backsides and do something about animal welfare, than just typing silly Comments on this forum.
They are making a point about the Horrendous conditions that horses have to endure to arrive on the dinner table, or BBQ.
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OK, but the phrase 'preaching to the converted' springs to mind. They targeted a chef who actually does care about the source of the meat he uses and is shown to use organically reared meat etc. The whole point of rearing his own animals to use in the restaurant is to raise awareness of where our food comes from and to make people think about what they are eating.
HBII
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What amazes me is people keep their horses and swear they love them to bits, spend every waking moment thinking about them, then in their old age sell them (rather than taking them to the slaughter house themselves) and don't really know what's happend to them
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Absolutely BANG ON *applaudes*
I intend to keep my mare for as long as possible, but if/when she becomes unrideable and old and her time is up then I shall make sure I do the deed - not palm her off or send her away.
Horse meat is like any other meat IMO. I wouldnt necessarily set out to buy some and cook it, but as long as the animal has had a good life then what difference does it make? I really cant see what the fuss is about ...
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What amazes me is people keep their horses and swear they love them to bits, spend every waking moment thinking about them, then in their old age sell them (rather than taking them to the slaughter house themselves) and don't really know what's happend to them
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Absolutely BANG ON *applaudes*
I intend to keep my mare for as long as possible, but if/when she becomes unrideable and old and her time is up then I shall make sure I do the deed - not palm her off or send her away.
Horse meat is like any other meat IMO. I wouldnt necessarily set out to buy some and cook it, but as long as the animal has had a good life then what difference does it make? I really cant see what the fuss is about ...
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MagicMelon
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HBII - Out of interest, would you then be happy to have your pet dog (or cat, whatever you have) end up on someones plate? Going by your philosophy, as long as our pets have had a good life, why not eat them afterwards?
susan_w
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But that's the point. In France, the horses that are eaten, are bred for meat. That's it. It's not like it's somebodies beloved pony, that's been slaughtered for meat.
Not saying that I would eat horse meat, but never say never......
Not saying that I would eat horse meat, but never say never......
HBII
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HBII - Out of interest, would you then be happy to have your pet dog (or cat, whatever you have) end up on someones plate? Going by your philosophy, as long as our pets have had a good life, why not eat them afterwards?
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Depends ... is that before or after the little get has raided the bin?!
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but as long as the animal has had a good life
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Now I didnt then state whether or not this applicable to pets or animals or animals specifically reared for their produce. On a personal level I doubt whether I would be able to cook my greyhound and have her for my dinner as there is an emotional attachment. However in my time I have had some currys so maybe I have eaten dog/cat but I am non the wiser.
The point I am trying to reach is for me, I would sooner buy meat that I know or at least I am reassured into feeling that it has had a decent quality of life.
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HBII - Out of interest, would you then be happy to have your pet dog (or cat, whatever you have) end up on someones plate? Going by your philosophy, as long as our pets have had a good life, why not eat them afterwards?
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Depends ... is that before or after the little get has raided the bin?!
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but as long as the animal has had a good life
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Now I didnt then state whether or not this applicable to pets or animals or animals specifically reared for their produce. On a personal level I doubt whether I would be able to cook my greyhound and have her for my dinner as there is an emotional attachment. However in my time I have had some currys so maybe I have eaten dog/cat but I am non the wiser.
The point I am trying to reach is for me, I would sooner buy meat that I know or at least I am reassured into feeling that it has had a decent quality of life.
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