Zorro123
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Sorry got wrong top price. It was lot 4, 18000€, by William Fox Pitt.
Zorro whether you intended or not, you may now have completely spoilt the chances for more than one person at this year's sale with your rumours and innuendoes. There aren't many horses in the sale as per your description, so I would respectfully suggest that you remove your earlier post as you may completely sabotage an honest person's chance to sell their horse.
I have no connection to any horses in this year's sales, but I hate to see this sort of rumour mongering from anonymous people on an internet site - especially ones which could do such damage to completely innocent people .
As for the reference to the "big four" there are certainly more than 4 producers with well known prefixes and there are plenty that I know who have been around for a good 20/30 years and who are very well respected.
Mickyjoe and Amage
Firstly I totally accept that the vast, vast majority of the producers in Ireland are good people trying to make a living and if you read my posts I have never suggested otherwise. I have no doubt that I have bought many times from the producers you refer to and paid a fair price for the horse at that time.
The people I am referring to aren't doing this. They are creating a false market with massive margins. Yes they produce the odd horse, but mostly they sell bought in horses, or front other people's horses with huge mark ups that the real producer will never share, or even know about. This false market is what I'm on about.
As to rumour and innuendoes- What I have written is fact not rumour. A horse at this years sale failed its vetting on something that doesn't go away. One of the dealers I refer to sold the horse at a big mark up to what the owner was to actually receive, but it failed the vetting.
If you honestly believe that this thread will "completely sabotage an honest persons chance to sell their horse", then you give me more credit than I deserve. How an "honest man" that is selling a horse that failed a vetting is "completely innocent" as you claim is beyond me. Given these circumstances I would always warn any potential purchaser to beware. This is an ELITE sale, where horses will be sold for top, top prices. When horses fail vettings they normally are sold cheaply for that reason and the buyer takes an understood gamble. THIS sale should not carry that risk.
So for the avoidance of any doubt are either of you willing to condemn this sellers actions or is he still innocent?!