Gribaldi as a sire

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I am thinking about using Gribaldi on my dressage mare this year, has anyone used him or seen any stock by him?

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Have seen him in the flesh and seen several stock by him, including a mare we had ourselves. When we saw him in the flesh I felt he was very mechanical in his movement....a bit hard to describe. However, there is no getting away that he throws some nice stock, but personally I would only put him on a mare with very good feet. But on the right mare he would be a good sire and is popular with the breeders.
 
the mare I am using has VERY good feet for a trakenher. Lovely long legs and a good strong back. She has big gracefull movment in front but is lacking slightly behind. If she has a fault it wuld be she has no a weedy neck. She is chestnut though!
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So are you looking for the foal to be full Trakehner, as you could widen it up to other stallions, for instance Hohenstein, or Volatis could possibly suggest others, as she has seen several in the flesh
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? If you are not colour blind when it comes to dressage horses, then you may get a chesnut....
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If going Dutch then could suggest some other stallions that may compliment as well...
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i've looked at some others too. I like Contis, but I want something proven. Caprimond is nice, but doesnt seem very fashionable.

I want to use a stallion that will make the foal marketable if its not good enough to keep for myself
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ah be careful, the movement behind i think has been critisized in him. he does not always produce the best hock movement. I think this is where the rather manufactured trot comes from and i found his canter a little weak.
I stabled opposite him in Zwolle and thought he was lovely inhis brain and in my book that goes a long way and proper schooling can make up for these natural deficiencies. After all there is no such thing as a perfect horse.
I have a cracking horse whos dam is by Lancet, would that be any good for your mare i wonder???
I also rode an awsome mare at the gradings and she was by a German stallion and i will have to get back to you on which is was because i have forgotten the name because i am being blonde
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Martin at Meadows stud also rates this stallion so if i fail to get my brain cell working he could be your man...
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Another that adds a good engine behind is San Remo, the one Edward Gal rides. His daughter was top mare in Holland last year and sold for a lot of money. Or the rising star Vivaldi, who's foals did incredibly well in all the provinces of Holland last year and was the top dressage foal at the Foal Champs.

Or hows about Johnson at the Nijhofs, another that is throwing super moving foals. Or Jazz, as you would be able to ride them no probs.......
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I saw loads of Gribaldis when I was looking for a young horse. Most of them I really liked , but some seemed a little backward for their age. The trouble is he covers hundreds of mares each year and I dont think there is any discrimination / selection re mares so it may not be fair to judge him thus.

Some people said that they can be difficult to train, but equally others claim that they have good temperaments.

Also many I saw were quite small - this was not a problem for me, but may be a consideration. Of course it may be that the small ones were the only ones in my price range!
 
I think his progeny are beautiful but difficult from what people have said, not that I have ridden one myself
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But if you are looking for saleability, he is certainly a name people look at...

I absolutely adore Jazz, I have had my eye on him for a while and would love to use him on Grace, so I am a bit biased on that one
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I know he throws hot progeny, but Pro-Set is known for that too and Troy has had his moments but with the correcy handling he has been no trouble whatsoever
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Whether this will be different when he is under saddle is another question, but that is something I will learn to handle when we get to it
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Have you looked at Munch-hausen (sp?) I know a colt by him who is really impressive...
 
Oh I know a Gibraldi. Smashing looking.Moves OK.Not my cup of tea, do not like its personality (it has these piggy eyes with no intelligence behind them)

The owner hasnt been able to do many dressage tests with it because apparently it just looses it at a competition ( it is 9 years old now) she is really frustrated with how immature it is with everything ( hacking, going to comps etc) . The owner is certainly experienced enough and no muppet but that horse has certainly been very frustrating.

Not saying that all Gibraldi's are like that but it does seem similar to other people's experiences!
 
I used to really like him, but have heard a lot of arguments about him.

I really love Jazz, if my DWB gets in-foal this year that's probably who she'll go in-foal to in 2009.

I also like Krack C, but again, some people don't like him.
 
Have to say some of my favourite Trakehner stallions are by Gribaldi - including Hofrat and Distelzar. He was also sire of the most stunning mare that I saw at Neumunster in November, beuatiful, typey and a bloody amazing mover. What is your mare's breeding Mat?
Gribaldi has covered huge books of mares in Holland so no wonder some of his offspring are not as nice as others. Be interesting to see what his foal reports say (one of the KWPN breeders will be able to tell you)
Given the numbers of horses competing in Holland the fact that Gribaldi is one of the leading Grand Prix horses in the world says something. He is Elite with both Trakehner and the Danish WB studbooks. I also know a number of people with daughters of his who are very pleased in deed with their mares. And he has offspring at Grand Prix too (Painted Black amoungst others), so an awful lot to recommend him!
 
I have two Gribaldi mares - one Trakehner by original studbook and one KWPN. Both decent well made mares with good movement, and are excellent to handle and quick to learn, although they are not riding horses so I can't comment on rideability. My Trakehner mare won the broodmare class the only time shown with me, and the KWPN one really moves. I saw a DVD of her before I got her and I wasn't that wowed by her, but in the flesh she is 100 times better - so don't judge soley on video footage.

There are some conformational traits he has which may well be passed on (depending on prepotency of your mare too) - for example, the below figures are from the KWPN database on Gribaldi:

Exterieur (conformation): 110
Beweging (movement): 110

Romp: 95
hoofd-hals verb: 90
halslength: 87
halsrichting: 93
halsbespiering: 93

So we can see he is a more long lined, rectangular "dressage shaped" horse, with a fine head/neck connection and a long neck. The neck also has a more vertical set on, and he has the sort of structure which facilitates good musculature.
 
Mat, we are considering Contis as one of the options for our mare this year - as a matter of interest, what attracted you about him? Have you seen him? (We are thinking of putting him on to our "ones to visit" list, so the more we know beforehand the better! (Sorry to distract you from the Gribaldi enquiry)
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Ashbank - could you possibly explain in a bit more detail about the confirmation figures from KWPN and how to interpret them?

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Of course, although I'm not an expert so somebody might be able to explain it better! This is how it was explained to me:

For each trait, there are two ends of the spectrum - for example neck set on is vertical and horizonal, length of stride would obviously be long and short, etc etc. A value of 100 is the average, so a value less than 100 means it will be more towards the first endmember, a value of over 100 means it will be more towards the 2nd endmember. So for example, length of neck (halslength), long or short - a value of 87 is less than 100 so he will probably pass on a long, graceful neck, and as it is quite a bit less than 100 it will be VERY long. Similarly, hoofd-hals verb (head neck connection i.e. thickness of throatlash, light or heavy) is 90, so he is very unlikely to give you a foal that is thick through the jowl.

Of course, it depends a lot on what attributes the mare has as well.. Both of my Gribaldi mares are quite different, but yet they share many traits and once you know they are by the same sire it is obvious - if not immediately so.
 
Mat the young stallion i have is by Special D out of a Lancet mare. He is bright very trainable athletic and elastic. Feet and leg conformation are VERY good.His 'sharpness' is not the kind that is used against you but the type that allows him to respond. If you get my drift.
If you wanted trak. papers how about Michaelangello, i very nearly bought a colt by him some years ago and he producing some top competition horses Very beautiful with good movement.
 
I secon Don Romantic, he really stamps his Stock and has a really good hind end, amazing natural balance too) I have a son by him PM me if you want photos or my boy, or videos or any more info on Blue Hors. I would also look at Hohenstein (My boys mum is by him) as he seems to have a really good hind end and his progeny and progenys progeny are WOW.
 
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I secon Don Romantic, he really stamps his Stock and has a really good hind end, amazing natural balance too) I have a son by him PM me if you want photos or my boy, or videos or any more info on Blue Hors. I would also look at Hohenstein (My boys mum is by him) as he seems to have a really good hind end and his progeny and progenys progeny are WOW.

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Hooray, I liked that stallion
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Wish Upon a Star standing at Grafham is by Gribaldi... Temperament and conformationally he is pretty damn perfect, but unfortunately didn't compliment my mare
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May be worth trying to drag up some pics/vids of him though?
 
A friend has a Gribaldi gelding that is reg KWPN - he's very laid back, ok paces, about 16hh and light framed - personally not my cup of tea, quite straight through hocks and very narrow.

However, his temperament is very nice, trainability I couldn't comment on as it's her 1st dressage horse and they are only working novice, horse is 9 I believe looks very silimar to his sire but much lighter built
 
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