Grrrrrr............... some people!!!!

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Go up to ride my horse tonight, and decide to take her for a hack, just as I was tacking up another livery says I can go with her and another if I want as Berry is'nt very good by herself. Well the 3rd person (who is a 13 yr old girl), starts stopping around and going over to her mum and whispering as im getting ready. Start out on our hack and the girl storms off in front on her horse and does'nt say a word to either of us the whole way round. I asked if she was ok and all I got was a grunt, so I didnt bother trying to speak to her after that.
On way home going over the flyover her horse done a tiny little spook at a bag on the grass verge and she completley loses it with her yanking her in the mouth and kicking her at the same time and because the horse reacted to this she decides to scream at it and hit it around the head with its reins while yanking and kicking. This is in rush hour traffic with everyone gawping at her as they attempt to drive past. So I turned round and said to her 'thats a bit out of order is'nt it?'. With that she stopped it and stormed off back to the yard where a bloke who is another livery was waitin for her, as soon as she gets off she starts crying and whispering to him (there is something very worring about their 'friendship').
And im left to feel like the wicked witch of the east (or is that west?? can never remember lol).
Her mum knows what she is like and too be honest can be just as bad, so Now im waiting for her mum to have a go when I see her tomorrow, because apparently everyone always picks on her!!!!
What would any of you lot of done if you saw another livery really lay into there horse for absolutly no reason??, Was I wrong in saying something??, I just did'nt want people thinking that that is the way that everyone in the yard treats their horses as there is quite a few yards around by us and im sure someone from one of them must of seen her as she was at it for a good 10 mins!
Cookies and ice cream for getting this far xx.
 
I would have to have said some something, cant stand by and watch someone being crule.

Maybe explain to her mum why you felt the need to intervene,I'm sure she will speak to her daughter.

My mum would have baned me from riding!
 
She is always having a strop and shouting at the horse and yanking it in the gob and then she blames the bit for her horses mouth being cut!!!!!
People have said to her mum before but nothing changes, she is ment to be takin her horse to merist wood college clear round next wed eve, I can see her being asked to leave cause I know she will be the same, she even done it when we went to a sponsored ride in april and I had to tell her to calm down as it was just making horse worse.
 
OMG what a little madam!
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and that poor pony!

I think you did well to refrain your self ..... In the same situ I would have probably dragged her off the pony and got into terrible trouble.
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You were definately in the right regardless if anyone from neighbouring yards saw you or not - what she did amounts to cruelty.
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Speak to the Mum first, will take her off guard, rather then letting her get to you first. If she is worth her salt she will stop her daughter riding untill she can show respect to her pony!
 
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I would be more concerned that her mum should be told of the 'strange' relationship with the male livery.

But yes stroopy teenagers need to be told.

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Please dont get me started on that!!!!
13 yr old girl and 60 odd yr old man going down to the field to get the horses in holding hands and cuddling!
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Very worring in my eyes!!
 
I would tell your side to the mum and then stay well away...they sound very odd and should not own horses if they behave in that manner...!!
I would have had to say something to her as well as that just seemed OTT and cruel....I hope she was embarrased!!
 
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I would be more concerned that her mum should be told of the 'strange' relationship with the male livery.

But yes stroopy teenagers need to be told.

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Please dont get me started on that!!!!
13 yr old girl and 60 odd yr old man going down to the field to get the horses in holding hands and cuddling!
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Very worring in my eyes!!

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Both situations sound like they need help!
Whatever you say, these people may turn against you and you need to consider the implications.
On both fronts it's likely that you won't be thanked, however I think if you believe an animal or a childs welfare is at stake you should speak out.
That's just my thoughts and it may be better for you to take the quieter route and stay out of it.
 
I would have pulled her over to a grass verge, taken the bridle off my horse, shoved the bit in her mouth and did exactly what she was doing to her horse! Then I would have let her continue with her ride and if she felt the urge to yank and snatch again I would really lay into her again
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I say stay away from the whole family, they sound like a bunch of weirdos! xx
 
I would agree with other postings, get to the mum first and take a diplomatic approach. It may go against the grain, but you are going to come out of this badly in their eyes whatever you do. These people seem typical of so many indulgent family's I see. Daughter is a perfect rider and can do no wrong and it is all 'somebody else's fault', this whole attitude drives me nuts.

It is a good thing my OH did not witness this, she is very old school and also is a secondary school teacher, she also tells it how it is and in this case it would not have been pretty
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The little girl has obviously got manipulation down to a fine art
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I agree with the others, try to speak to the Mum before she speaks to you. You did the right thing speaking up, it's not as if you did / said anything out of order.

If I my parents had heard or seen me ride like that it would have been the end of my riding full stop, too be honest at 38 they or my OH would have something to say - but then I would never do that. I get upset if I shout at George.
 
The child will never learn unless people speak out about her bad actions, if she's old enough to take responsibility for a horse/pony then she is old enough to take criticism and advice from people!
I would not worry about her mum, specially if she's known to be like that, as you've done nothing wrong.

Ok so she's not your child and nor should be have to babysit her when she rides out with you but if her mum does have words with you then I'd say to her look if you daughter chooses to be in my company while out hacking then obviously I'm going to take some responsibility for her seen as she's only 13 year and riding on busy roads and if she's not riding correctly on the roads and throwing a paddy with her horse, hitting it around the head is certainly not they way I ride on th roads nor it is the way I'd treat any horse, I would not be a responsible adult or a horse owner if I was to turn a blind eye to it.

There's no way in the world her mum could possibly disagree with you, if there is, then I'm afraid she's not a very good example of a mother.
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Some thirteen year olds are complete S**ts. My daughter tried to go through that stage and believe me it did not last long. I would have dragged her off the pony and given her a wallop. Obviously you are not her mother, so cant do that, however I think you were completely justified in telling her off.

As for telling her mum, well thats up to you and if you want a difficult life at the livery yard. If she behaves like that to her pony then you can pretty much guarantee she a horror to her parents, even if Mum knows you are right she probably wont admit it to you. What an absolute pain.
 
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