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I had a vet come down and i had my mare palpated about a month ago and she told me my mare was not in foal ( my mare been a old broodmare had 5 foals before i bought her at 6 1/2 ), mare is now 17.
I bought her and started to ride her and not to use has a broodmare but i was told 2 month's ago that one of the men on the yard i am on let his colt's out and they got into the field were my mare's were :( this happened about april/may last year. they could of told me sooner so i could of got a vet out to give injection.

anyways to the point my mare has got a big belly her teats are changing and she not her self i havea video of some movement but my head is in bits as i did not want any foals because i don't know what i would do with one.
Its tuck me 10 years to get my mare good and ridding very well and i don't want her going back again

thank you

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I would say thats in foal! You need to find out as if its twins you need to be careful. Whoever the vet was, ask for a stud vet as they clearly didn't spot this one. Good Luck!
 
Hi there, I think you'll find that your mare appears in her last trimester. I think you should get your vet to reassess her and put in a formal complaint. I think that vets are too quick to dismiss a pregnancy if they are not all to much certain. Good luck for the next 4-8 weeks if the April/May covering was accurate?
 
Hi all

thank you for all your reply's i will keep you all informed of how things go if any one knows any good information about foaling ect i would love to know anything

thank you

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Hello,

Having had an unexpected pregnancy with my mare I can fully sympathise. I now have a foal I have no idea what to do with and have had and still have a sharp learning curve. I have read every book I could get my hands on secondhand, ebay amazon etc and went on 2 foaling courses / talks. If you look back on my previous posts there have been some lovely people who have been a wonderful source of support and knowledge so you have joined the right forum :)

I agree that shes pregnant to me that is a baby moving as my mares first hint of her being in foal was a very active belly.

What were the colts ? Breed size etc ( just out of interest ) I miss riding my mare like crazy but keep telling myself it's an experience I would never had had otherwise and it is just a time to learn and enjoy. But also it's the right time of year to be having a foal . We had no idea on my mares due date as she ran with the stallion autumn through to spring so we could have had a snow baby! Thankfully we didn't :)
 
Very hard to tell from what you can see on that video but i guess it looks likely. Would be great to see more of the whole mare from the front, side and back. But if she is bagging up then i think you have your answer!
 
Belly looks a lot my mares who is due in approx 5 weeks. Here are a couple of photo's of her, but they are about a month old now.

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Looks like she's in foal!! I'd get the vet out so you can know for sure and put her on the appropriate feed. Sometimes older saggy broodies are hard to reach the foal when doing a rectal exam as the foal can sit quite low down, so I'd get an experienced equine vet to check.
Good books to read are From Foal to Full Grown by Janet Lorch and Foaling Simplified by Sue Caldwell. I'd also send the vet bills to the guy who owns the colt - as he was very irresponsible to not tell you, as you are now going to have another horse costing you money not to mention the loss of riding time on your mare - so I'd by fuming at him if I were you!! If he says you can't prove it then you can always get a DNA sample from foalie when it arrives!!!:D
 
I totally sympathise I bought a mare in October who was sold to me as ready to back, so I did, 2 months later she began to show! I got a vet out and requested she be scanned as I have had trouble with vets just palpitating before and sure enough she is in foal. Luckily I managed to track down her history and find out who the sire is and they are both very well bred! You can put in a complaint to your vets I have in the past and received some free treatment for my horse as a goodwill gesture. Best of luck with the foal and your mare, Im sure all will be well!
 
I think by the looks of the piccys she is in foal. You will be ok, there are a lot of knowledgable folk on here who will give you help and advice if and when you need it so don't panic!!
 
I had an older broodmare who had had several foals and was getting bigger and bigger and bagging up. We hadn't covered her but had found her one morning in the field next door to my pony stallion having jumped two fences to get to him so didn't know if she had got into his field. I was convinced she was in foal. My vet was down one day and took pity on and examined her for free. He spent ages fishing round inside as she was a large roomy ID mare. He was very suprised to find NO foal, it was a phantom pregnancy. She started to deflate a few weeks later and came into season.
 
Thank you for your replys

no had not had the vet out again as going to see what happen's and get the vet out if she starts to foal has after the last time i don't think i can let me mare go through that again it was very unplesant for her and they will not do a scan out on the yard.

just going to see what happen's

thank you
 
Hello,

In my limited experience I would say your mare is probably in foal!

I experienced a similar situation last year, except my mare was covered in November, so I had an October baby...

I was initially gutted - really concerned about her training stopping, as I'd only just got her near to competing level, about the extra epense/work etc. BUT, the minute the foal was born I fell in love - she's just super and its been such an amazing experience that I wouldn't change even a moment of it now.

I would ask for an experienced stud vet to look at her and roceed from there.

Good luck! If you need any moral support, I'd be happy to oblige.

Jen :)
 
Dont want to worry you anymore than you already are, but if I were you I would get the vet again.
A few years ago a friend had a pony mare which she bought from a sale no one knew she was in foal and she foaled overnight on her own and the foal died.
Unless you can watch her24/7 it a big risk.
 
thank you for your reply's
has soon has i know that her bum starts to drop i will stay up there and camp out just to keep a eye on her.

i will keep you all informed :)
thank you x
 
traceya said:
Thank you for your replys

no had not had the vet out again as going to see what happen's and get the vet out if she starts to foal has after the last time i don't think i can let me mare go through that again it was very unplesant for her and they will not do a scan out on the yard.

just going to see what happen's

thank you
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I was hoping someone else would have said this for me but they haven't so I will as somebody should point it out to you.

I appreciate you are the owner of this mare and it's totally up to you how you treat her but I've got to say, this seems a very cavalier attitude towards her and doesn't sound like you have taken any of the advice you asked for at all into account.

If you don't have a vet out to make totally sure that she is/isn't in foal, you will not know whether to increase/change her nutrition or not which will be very important as she's not a young mare so won't be flush with milk if a foal arrives.
You won't know whether to increase her bedding or even change the type of bedding you use.
You won't know what safety measures you need to take for her like whether she will be safe in a herd or not if she was to foal outside and you weren't there. You won't know if you need to make other arrangements for grazing after she foals as she won't be able to go out with her normal companions straight after foaling.
There are so many things that need sorting out and preparing for if she is in foal; they're things that need doing in advance for peace of mind at the very least.
At least, if she was foal checked, you would know if you need to change anything regarding her diet, routine and stabling/grazing arrangements. If she isn't, you can crack on and ride her again with complete peace of mind and no harm done.

Foaling can go disastrously wrong for either or both in the blink of an eye and can catch out even the most professional so please don't think it's a walk in the park that a vet can easily fix; it's not always fixable.

I'm not having a go but I am thinking of the mare and how she needs to be prepared if she is in foal.
 
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I was hoping someone else would have said this for me but they haven't so I will as somebody should point it out to you.

I appreciate you are the owner of this mare and it's totally up to you how you treat her but I've got to say, this seems a very cavalier attitude towards her and doesn't sound like you have taken any of the advice you asked for at all into account.

If you don't have a vet out to make totally sure that she is/isn't in foal, you will not know whether to increase/change her nutrition or not which will be very important as she's not a young mare so won't be flush with milk if a foal arrives.
You won't know whether to increase her bedding or even change the type of bedding you use.
You won't know what safety measures you need to take for her like whether she will be safe in a herd or not if she was to foal outside and you weren't there. You won't know if you need to make other arrangements for grazing after she foals as she won't be able to go out with her normal companions straight after foaling.
There are so many things that need sorting out and preparing for if she is in foal; they're things that need doing in advance for peace of mind at the very least.
At least, if she was foal checked, you would know if you need to change anything regarding her diet, routine and stabling/grazing arrangements. If she isn't, you can crack on and ride her again with complete peace of mind and no harm done.

Foaling can go disastrously wrong for either or both in the blink of an eye and can catch out even the most professional so please don't think it's a walk in the park that a vet can easily fix; it's not always fixable.

I'm not having a go but I am thinking of the mare and how she needs to be prepared if she is in foal.
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Hi thank you for your concern I have spent £180.00 for a vet to come out and do a rectol and to say nope she not in foal.

I have had this mare for ten years so i should know what she is like, i have made other arrangements for after she as dropped this foal, a foal i did not want (i know the risk's to my mare at 17).

My mare is cleaned out everyday and bedded up every day with clean good straw and 3 hay nets a night with clean water.

I have put her on stud mix as well has her own feed she is wormed flu and tet upto date and had shoes taken off and feet trimed.

I know the stable she is in is to small for her to foal in so as soon as the tell tail signs show (if they do) i will turn her out on her own with her best friend in the field fenced off with electric fencing so she not out on her own.

If the D*** had not let his colt's out in the first place my mare and me would not be having to go though this.

I am 39 years old i am not a child and been with horses since i was 5 but never had to see to a mare that might be having a foal but i guess we have to lean something new now and again.

I have taken all advice and acted on but when you ask a vet to check her and they say she is not in foal you take it as she is not as most people do
what the vet says goes but not in this case THEY WERE WRONG.

But we all make mistakes.

I have also sorted out incase the mare does not provide milk.

If there is anything else bothering you please feel free to let me know i am glad you have let it out your system
 
Been trying to get another vet to come out but the vet was the main horse vet in this area were i live and trying to find another vet not linked to the other vet is hard but i am trying to sorting it out
 
I would be very suprised if an experienced horse vet got it wrong this late in pregnancy, but although it is very difficult to judge from photos, particularly in older mares, I can see why you are suspicious.

Have you spoken to the original vet? In this situation I would offer to re-examine the mare at a reduced cost for my own and the owner's peace of mind. Also you could get a blood test done which would give you an answer either way.

Knowing one way or the other will make managing your mare much more straightforward and should be pretty easy to determine.

Either way, good luck.
 
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