Have you found youve been discriminated against because you hunt?

[topclass]

Oops I think I may be in the minority here but personally I think drag hunting it ok but the real hunt sorry no it's not that im a lover of the fox but to have 20 plus dogs chasing any animals with the soul intent purpose of ripping the it to pieces then no, and it to be taken as a sport it is not a sport in my mind, but everyone to their own and that's was makes us human. I would never discriminate against someone or treat them with disrepect if they did hunt as long as they didnt try and tell me what great fun it is as I dont think me or fox see it like that but personal opinion should never interfer with your work abilities or your beliefs. I'll just wait now for the wrath of all you hunting people now gulp.........

 

[EAST KENT]

Please DO NOT call Hounds "Dogs" it is abhorent.

 

[topclass]

Please DO NOT call Hounds "Dogs" it is abhorent.

If I want to call it a dog I will that is MY personal opinion infact I know someone who used to organise a drag hunt with Cumberland Spaniels and they are not HOUNDS they are working gun dogs to be precise not everyone knows breeds it was a general answer to a just question

 

[Herne]

Please DO NOT call Hounds "Dogs" it is abhorent.

And it is precisely that sort of pompous foolishness that has got hunting and hunting people such a bad name in the past.

Of course hounds are dogs. The fact that we prefer to refer to them as hounds to distinguish them from other types of dogs does not somehow mean that they magically become not dogs.

Abhorrent, indeed. Don't be so ridiculous.

 

[combat_claire]

And it is precisely that sort of pompous foolishness that has got hunting and hunting people such a bad name in the past.

Of course hounds are dogs. The fact that we prefer to refer to them as hounds to distinguish them from other types of dogs does not somehow mean that they magically become not dogs.

Abhorrent, indeed. Don't be so ridiculous.

Well said.

Much like those hunting stalwarts who insist on correcting 2 year olds when they point at the dogs in the ring at country shows with a posh, snapped 'they are hinds not dawgs' ! #

I freely admit that I have on numerous occasions invited small children to come and meet our fluffy doggies! :-D

 

[JenHunt]

I'm can happily say that I haven't been discriminated against because I hunt.

I make no bones about it, I happily tell my boss/colleagues that I'd like a day off to go hunting, and they are fine with it. I've got quite good at spotting those who just want a fight about it, and avoid them. Most of my colleagues have asked me about how it all works now, what's changed, what are the hounds fed etc etc. They are interested and keen to learn.

I had more obstruction to taking days off for hunting when I worked for a game feed manufacturer than I do now (working for a food flavourings manufacturer!).

 

[Fiagai]

Please DO NOT call Hounds "Dogs" it is abhorent.

EK - Tis a pity that some cannot determine a bit of online humour.....:

 

[Fiagai]

An ex boss of mine was want to cancel leave if he got wind I was going hunting....

Was an ignorant w*nker at the best of times....

 

[EAST KENT]

EK - Tis a pity that some cannot determine a bit of online humour.....:

Bit sad ,are`nt they? Obviously incapable of any appreciation of dry English humour. Try watching Downton and the Dowager Duchess duckies..maybe you`ll "get it" then.
There is nothing wrong with correct facts by the way,hounds are just that..hounds. Correct etiquette and terminology is never out of fashion,one should never descend to the lowest common denominator ..as I was taught at school.

 

[EAST KENT]

An ex boss of mine was want to cancel leave if he got wind I was going hunting....

Was an ignorant w*nker at the best of times....

Indeed..and probably called hounds d...s as well

 

[Luci07]

Had interesting debates. Can happily argue (factually) and have a few cards up my sleeve to counter the "heartstrings" approach. One of my closest friends is very anti so we agree to differ. We also differ in that she is PRO capital punishment and I am totally against!!

TBH, every time I have had someone attempt to shout me down, they have always been very poorly informed and don't have anywhere to go when I actually present facts. I don't/won't debate deer hunting - because its not something I have ever done or researched = ergo I can't discuss it and won't comment. I did have one friend who got very very cross but I stuck to my guns, didn't back down and in the end he did agree to live and let live!

I have not had any poor experiences with staff during my numerous visits to A&E over the years. The best (and most memorable) was my then BIL taking me having had my horse throw his head up and smash my nose. Reception asked what had happened while taking a very pointed look at my poor (and large BIL!)

Other person to be "you bring it on yourself" ... is now an ex OH. Did make the mistake of venting at my brother - who then reminded him.. he was talking to my brother (and told me to get rid!!.)

 

[chancing]

In reply to a post Im afraid Ive forgotton who yes my boss has allowed her views to have an impact on our working relationship so much so I am now desperately seeking other employment so anyone around somerset??!! shameless plug sorry. She refuses to let me swap my half day to a hunting day and the reason she gives 'i dont want to' and she refuses to let me interact with anyone related to the company who is pro which to me is pathetic. She has also accused me of following the hunt during working hours which considering they are generally meeting 20 miles from my workplace and im never away from work longer than 5 minutes of commuting around the office is pretty impressive again asked for evidence of this she says 'ive been told' will not tell me who by dates times proof etc.

To be honest it feels like she is pushing me to go rather than being upfront and saying ok I dont agree with your hobbies outside of work in your own personal time and as long as it continues to not clash with your work or have any effect no matter how small we shall leave it there and you have your opinions and I have mine. I feel this would be a much more sensible and professional approach rather than making me dread getting up and going to work!!

Im impressed by the amount of responses the thread is having I posted merely out of interest and a little out of sheer anger!

 

[Herne]

EK - Tis a pity that some cannot determine a bit of online humour.....:

I shall look forward to some with bated breath...

 

[EAST KENT]

I shall look forward to some with bated breath...

Perhaps more a "Mrs Brown`s Boys" type than Downton or BlackAdder ????

 

[Herne]

Actually, I would equate trotting out tired old cliches in inappropriate places where they can easily be misconstrued more with the former category than the latter.

Blackadder, eh? Modest, aren't we...?

 

[JanetGeorge]

To be honest it feels like she is pushing me to go rather than being upfront and saying ok I dont agree with your hobbies outside of work in your own personal time and as long as it continues to not clash with your work or have any effect no matter how small we shall leave it there and you have your opinions and I have mine. I feel this would be a much more sensible and professional approach rather than making me dread getting up and going to work!!

It might be worth having a chat to a good employment law solicitor! It sounds to me like your employer is behaving in such a way that a 'constructive dismissal' case against her would succeed!

 

[Luci07]

Agreed. Start a log NOW of all the times she has made comments, refused you leave to hunt etc and backdate it to the dates you can remember. If you have any emails from her send them to yourself as back up as well. You will need this. Once you have this, then go to an employment solicitor. (check your house insurance - very often legal cover is included. It certainly is on mine) OR if your company is big enough to have a decent HR, then, once you have the evidence, log it with HR. I would also, keep an eye out for an alternative position but these are the steps you need to take to safeguard yourself.

 

[Fiagai]

....To be honest it feels like she is pushing me to go rather than being upfront and saying ok I dont agree with your hobbies outside of work in your own personal time and as long as it continues to not clash with your work or have any effect no matter how small we shall leave it there and you have your opinions and I have mine. I feel this would be a much more sensible and professional approach rather than making me dread getting up and going to work...!

Chancing - this is bullying. I would advise to document (with dates, witnesses etc) every single incident and then instigate a formal procedure once you have enough to prove your case.

 

[Fiagai]

I shall look forward to some with bated breath...

Miaow!! fcs sake lighten up a little. EKs comment was clearly tongue

in cheek considering the detail and lenght of the post in question.

 

[A1fie]

Miaow!! fcs sake lighten up a little. EKs comment was clearly tongue

in cheek considering the detail and lenght of the post in question.

It may have been tongue in cheek but it didn't read that way to me, in fairness and to an outsider it could easily have come across as rude.

 

[Herne]

My case rests...

 

[Fiagai]

It may have been tongue in cheek but it didn't read that way to me, in fairness and to an outsider it could easily have come across as rude.

A1fie
topclasses post was a clearly expressed opinion. Eks reply pointedly did not contest / argue any of this but was simply a humurous reply on the old hoary chestnut about dogs/ hounds imo. If you want confirmation go ask the poster in question. Like all forums there there will always be nitpickers who take opportunities to take pot shots.

 

[toppy72]

There is a couple on the yard who are very anti hunting they have always known that I am pro hunting and it has been left as an area that we do not touch upon. However since I have been out this season there has been a noticable cooling in our friendship, one of them has simply started to grunt rather than speak to me. I feel irritated by this as I am very willing to respect their views and feel that they should do the same.

One thing I do know is that it will not stop me doing what I want to do.

My gripe is that I do not like my children to see people being so ignorant and not speaking.

My mantra is "rise above it" a phrase that is often needed in a livery situation!!

 

[EAST KENT]

Miaow!! fcs sake lighten up a little. EKs comment was clearly tongue

in cheek considering the detail and lenght of the post in question.

Don`t think this acid drop CAN lighten up somehow, lead boots and all that,which it is "resting it`s case"..tired legs .
Hmm,one of my fav phrases .."the thinking powers of a lobotomised tapeworm"..totally nothing to do with the thread..but bloody funny.

 

[Horsey_dreams]

chancing what kind of company do you work for, how big is it? Are you a member of a union? This is bullying and harassment, your employer should have policies for dealing with it.

 

[Herne]

Don`t think this acid drop CAN lighten up somehow, lead boots and all that,which it is "resting it`s case"..tired legs .
Hmm,one of my fav phrases .."the thinking powers of a lobotomised tapeworm"..totally nothing to do with the thread..but bloody funny.

Oh, come on, then, if you insist on claiming that it was "funny", then let's hear the explanation of "why"?

Clearly, so far, 4 posters have found it unamusing as opposed to to the 2 of you that do, so it obviously needs a little bit of clarification...

(You have modestly claimed your wit to be on a par with the likes of Rowan Atkinson, Richard Curtis, Ben Elton and Julian Fellowes. I can assure you that all four of them are perfectly capable of rationalising their humour, so no cop-outs now...)

 

[EAST KENT]

Oh do lighten up you silly old thing..what a narrow cheerless world you appear to inhabit,now off you go and suck some sugar lumps.
Actually ,if if you are an expert on humour,the last bit about the labotomised tapeworm WAS BlackAdder.Thought you`d have recognised it.

 

[chancing]

I work for a fairly small company and this constant harassment is leading me to today quit my job Im actually excited at the prospect my boss's attitude isnt improving and having spoken to a colleague of mine who is experiencing similar behaviour it obviously isnt going to get any better. Sad though that I have been reduced to this. On a lighter note roll on hunting tomorrow morning although if this weather continues I shall be putting forward the idea of hunting in vest tops wonder how that will go down?! haha

 

[Fiagai]

I work for a fairly small company and this constant harassment is leading me to today quit my job Im actually excited at the prospect my boss's attitude isnt improving and having spoken to a colleague of mine who is experiencing similar behaviour it obviously isnt going to get any better. Sad though that I have been reduced to this. On a lighter note roll on hunting tomorrow morning although if this weather continues I shall be putting forward the idea of hunting in vest tops wonder how that will go down?! haha

I'm sorry to hear that chancing, but what I would say is that your health is more important than having to put with daily harssment to such a degree.

You are looking at the postive side at least though hunting "in vest tops" you will be suggesting cami knickers and boxers next! ugh what a thought....

 

[Alec Swan]

....... "in vest tops" you will be suggesting cami knickers and boxers next! ugh what a thought....

There's a small part of me, which disagrees with you!!

Alec.