combat_claire
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There's a small part of me, which disagrees with you!!
Alec.
And then I think of the varying shapes and sizes found on the hunting field....
Have you found youve been discriminated against because you hunt?
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And then I think of the varying shapes and sizes found on the hunting field....
Luci07
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On your leaving day, please put IN WRITING your response to your bosses behaviour, and have that conversation.. her teeth will be drawn but she needs to understand there is a reaction to her behaviour. Also cc in your MD. You would awful if the same thing happened to another person...
chancing
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resignation submitted!! feel much happier now although shouldnt have had to come to this. impressed with all of the replies to the thread maybe something should be done as anti's appear to be able to discriminate all they like but we as hunting folk cannot?!
and yes bikinis and boxers may be a little far when you think of the range of ages etc however if they were all 6ft tall dark and handsome then that might present another question!!
and yes bikinis and boxers may be a little far when you think of the range of ages etc however if they were all 6ft tall dark and handsome then that might present another question!!
soggy
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Wrath.....nah!
Why get annoyed at the misguided and uninformed. I simply treat them with the disdain they deserve. So run along now and go play.
VoR
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Few points regarding this thread - 'humour' can often be mis-interpreted in e-mails and the like (i.e.posts) and for the purposes of clarification;
hound noun
1. one of any of several breeds of dogs trained to pursue game either by sight or by scent, especially one with a long face and large drooping ears.
2. Informal . any dog.
3. a mean, despicable person.
4. Informal . an addict or devotee: an autograph hound.
5. one of the pursuers in the game of hare and hounds
So everyone is right and no-one is wrong, just like everyone who has an opinion on anything it is their opinion, in their world it is right in another's it is wrong, the grown up approach is to listen to each other and try to understand WHY those opinions are held, respect our differences and get on with our lives, unfortunately, the extremes (who usually are not prepared to take said approach) tend to shout the loudest, get heard the most and therefore prevent people living their lives, be happy!!
hound noun
1. one of any of several breeds of dogs trained to pursue game either by sight or by scent, especially one with a long face and large drooping ears.
2. Informal . any dog.
3. a mean, despicable person.
4. Informal . an addict or devotee: an autograph hound.
5. one of the pursuers in the game of hare and hounds
So everyone is right and no-one is wrong, just like everyone who has an opinion on anything it is their opinion, in their world it is right in another's it is wrong, the grown up approach is to listen to each other and try to understand WHY those opinions are held, respect our differences and get on with our lives, unfortunately, the extremes (who usually are not prepared to take said approach) tend to shout the loudest, get heard the most and therefore prevent people living their lives, be happy!!
Shoei
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Many times but the one that springs to mind was when hacking to a meet a gentleman nearly dragged me off my horse telling me how cruel I was. Even more infuriating as I was going out with the blood hounds! Ignorant bigot!
VOM
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No, only people seem to think your loaded which I wish were true!
Today though my non horsey beautician asked what I did with my horses, given that I was being waxed at the time I lied and said just shows. Couldn't take the risk.
Today though my non horsey beautician asked what I did with my horses, given that I was being waxed at the time I lied and said just shows. Couldn't take the risk.
chancing
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haha VOM i had the same convo with my beautician the other day whilst having my eyebrows waxed I was brave enough to say and she was fascinated!!!
VoR
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It is so annoying when people think just because you hunt you are posh and rich, why just last week I was driving to the meet in the Roller when a thug stopped my two grooms who was following along behind in the brand new 5 horse lorry and berated them about them being upper-class yobs, wouldn't have minded so much had the oik not been tresspassing on my estate!!!
combat_claire
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It is so annoying when people think just because you hunt you are posh and rich, why just last week I was driving to the meet in the Roller when a thug stopped my two grooms who was following along behind in the brand new 5 horse lorry and berated them about them being upper-class yobs, wouldn't have minded so much had the oik not been tresspassing on my estate!!!
Haha, very good VoR :-D
VOM
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It is so annoying when people think just because you hunt you are posh and rich, why just last week I was driving to the meet in the Roller when a thug stopped my two grooms who was following along behind in the brand new 5 horse lorry and berated them about them being upper-class yobs, wouldn't have minded so much had the oik not been tresspassing on my estate!!!
The cheek of them
.Alec Swan
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It is so annoying when people think just because you hunt you are posh and rich, why just last week I was driving to the meet in the Roller when a thug stopped my two grooms who was following along behind in the brand new 5 horse lorry and berated them about them being upper-class yobs, wouldn't have minded so much had the oik not been tresspassing on my estate!!!
Ah, well you see, that's where you went wrong. You were driving to the meet. Had you engaged a chauffeur, of any note, then you would have been able to peer over the top of your H&H, or FT, and left the disagreement, to staff, wouldn't you?
Why trouble yourself with the common man, when you can employ others to deal with their own kind.
Alec.
VoR
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LizzieJ
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Bugger, I didn't realise it was your Grooms and lorry VoR 
sorry 
sorry VoR
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Bugger, I didn't realise it was your Grooms and lorry VoR
Might have know it was you Liz!!
LizzieJ
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Meh, someone said rent-a-mob was easy money
soggy
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Waxed...?????? Eyebrows waxed.....???
I thought waxing was the reserve of these East European types that now do all the car valeting.
Do they just use Simoniz Car wax or did they have to get out the T-Cut?
The daughter is muttering something about Brazilians. Have they gotten into this car valeting malarkey as well?
Fiagai
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Seriously though the number of anti type sites that refer to "upper class toffs" "looking down on us" "gentry" etc when referring to those that hunt is quite noticeable.
I believe that adoption of rat catcher by some hunts is being advocated as that the formal attire of hunting may be perceived as "posh"
Pehaps if we all adopted the wearing of boiler suits, safety hats, and rode shaggy ponys huntings image as an elitist activity would change?
tbh I dont think so. I believe a significant problem with these percieved attitudes is perhaps the result of a growing urban / rural divide
The fact that hunt coats are practical and hard wearing, that stocks may perform many functions, that hats are for safety rarely gets a notion.
The "looking down" thing is unfortunately the result the horse and rider physically bigger than someone on the ground. Our hunt always advocates getting off ones horse and taking off ones hat when talking to a landowner or other person as a matter of etiqette
I an interested does any have any ideas on howing to help deal with percieved ideas of others?
I believe that adoption of rat catcher by some hunts is being advocated as that the formal attire of hunting may be perceived as "posh"
Pehaps if we all adopted the wearing of boiler suits, safety hats, and rode shaggy ponys huntings image as an elitist activity would change?
tbh I dont think so. I believe a significant problem with these percieved attitudes is perhaps the result of a growing urban / rural divide
The fact that hunt coats are practical and hard wearing, that stocks may perform many functions, that hats are for safety rarely gets a notion.
The "looking down" thing is unfortunately the result the horse and rider physically bigger than someone on the ground. Our hunt always advocates getting off ones horse and taking off ones hat when talking to a landowner or other person as a matter of etiqette
I an interested does any have any ideas on howing to help deal with percieved ideas of others?
chancing
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T cutting and waxing same thing both work well however not sure on the eyebrows front! Likewise we could say they are common hoody wearing thugs but that wouldnt be p.c would it?! Having just been on the lacs website out of curiosity they seem to perceive we are raw meat eating cold heartless killers that like to dress up to do so sounds like a fetish to me!!
I suppose they dont like the red coats worn for the fact they stand out and its another part of tradition they are so keen to demolish?! I think the march the countryside alliance did in 2004/5??? was a great idea and something along the lines again would show that people arent giving up
I suppose they dont like the red coats worn for the fact they stand out and its another part of tradition they are so keen to demolish?! I think the march the countryside alliance did in 2004/5??? was a great idea and something along the lines again would show that people arent giving up
VoR
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Interesting point on the march although pretty sure that the government &LACS are aware that this isn't going away any time soon
To be fair I know plenty of people who are less than supportive of the idea of hunting, not seen any of them wearing hoodies or involving themselves in 'thuggery' so let LACS generalise, we'll be a bit more grown up.
Having said that as I was biting in to the 'little baby lamb' last night dressed up on my 'big-bad-wolf' suit, I was thinking maybe it's taste better without the wool on and would certainly be easier to eat if it didn't struggle so much, still OH seems to like it when I chase her in her Little Red Riding Hood cape.
What is a fetish any way?
soggy
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Daughter has been expanding my knowledge. Apparently a Brazilian is like some form of goatee beard for women and has nothing to do with car valeting. Its all the rage down on Copacabana beach hence the name. But you have to wear cheese cutter thongs what ever they are to pull it off. Some very tasty bodies of the female persuasion in Brazil. Never seen one sporting a false beard though.
Apparently you(women) put wax in your hair too. To help keep it in place? Why not just get a hair cut? My local barber does a decent enough job for £5.
EAST KENT
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It is so annoying when people think just because you hunt you are posh and rich, why just last week I was driving to the meet in the Roller when a thug stopped my two grooms who was following along behind in the brand new 5 horse lorry and berated them about them being upper-class yobs, wouldn't have minded so much had the oik not been tresspassing on my estate!!!
Don`t forget your smelling salts in a small bottle to protect yourself against any nasties those commom oiks might harbour.
orangesquash
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This is one of the most entertaining threads I have read in a long time! (regular reader but have just registered today!)
A few years ago I moved away to work which was amazing and I met some brilliant people. The job was incredibly intense and a brand new team of 50 youngsters (18-35) immediately lived, trained and worked together for the whole season, and the initial 6 weeks training were particularly intense.
We had to do a load of ice breakers at the beginning that pushed people way out of their comfort zone anyway. Im from Surrey but didn't think I had an accent in any way however as soon as I started chatting away, finding out about other people and telling them where I was from etc there was that immediate and annoying assumption....."oh your from Surrey, you must be posh, I bet you ride horses" to which I reply yes (to riding horses!) which sparks the standard response "oh, I bet you go hunting and everything" and I always have the same dilemma,.....do I or don't I mention it. My pride and enthusiasm for hunting comes through every time and I reply yes which usually gets me into a debate where I simply spend most of my time, not fighting my corner, but trying to educate them on what we actually do!!!
Ultimately I had to agree to disagree seeing as we were spending the next 8 months in adjacent rooms and now we are the best of friends, but stereotyping will never die out!
I would also like to point out that by the end of our second season together, the person in question who was a vegetarian for his whole life is now an avid meat eater after coming home with me for the weekend and couldn't resist Mum's amazing venison casserole!
A few years ago I moved away to work which was amazing and I met some brilliant people. The job was incredibly intense and a brand new team of 50 youngsters (18-35) immediately lived, trained and worked together for the whole season, and the initial 6 weeks training were particularly intense.
We had to do a load of ice breakers at the beginning that pushed people way out of their comfort zone anyway. Im from Surrey but didn't think I had an accent in any way however as soon as I started chatting away, finding out about other people and telling them where I was from etc there was that immediate and annoying assumption....."oh your from Surrey, you must be posh, I bet you ride horses" to which I reply yes (to riding horses!) which sparks the standard response "oh, I bet you go hunting and everything" and I always have the same dilemma,.....do I or don't I mention it. My pride and enthusiasm for hunting comes through every time and I reply yes which usually gets me into a debate where I simply spend most of my time, not fighting my corner, but trying to educate them on what we actually do!!!
Ultimately I had to agree to disagree seeing as we were spending the next 8 months in adjacent rooms and now we are the best of friends, but stereotyping will never die out!
I would also like to point out that by the end of our second season together, the person in question who was a vegetarian for his whole life is now an avid meat eater after coming home with me for the weekend and couldn't resist Mum's amazing venison casserole!