having puppies?

Not far off the mark there SM
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esp if the bitch starts to whelp OOH (out of hours) between 6pm and 9am(my shift)
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then your in trouble LOL
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call out fee alone is around £100 will differ in some areas .........going up not down
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that is just for attending the hospital/clinic without any medical procedures
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Just red thro this post and find top horses advice bizarre and very disconcerting. I think somone did ask what breed you have but don't think you have answered. It would be interesting to know. Well done on winning silver and bronze medals at Crufts, were they in the breed ring because they were never awarded when I used to show at Crufts. But that was a while ago and you are right I am older. I'm sorry but having bred a working breed for over 20 years, and my Mother before me (she judged at Crufts but never got a medal!) I would have to say that aggression is definitely inherited and I would never breed from a dog with a bad temperament. And to say that breed standards do not matter in the show world, worlds fail me.
 
hh- forgot to say that we have contracts with all of ours when selling, they are not allowed to breed from any bitches untill we give written permission, if they want rid of the dog then they contact us first, we give bit of bedding as familiar smell for when they leave plus puppy packs, its really important to give all the advice and tips even if they have had a zillion dogs. If you do chosse to go aahead with the mating, the please contact us as we can hopefully answer any questions you have and tips too. also gald to hear some user agree with my point and are experianced as i am in that we understand that the dog is def not aggressive from from the info hh told us.
 
please go to a champ show and you see how many dogs are put up and then look at their conformation and movement ............. some are awful and put through because judge and hadler are friendly, some are ok and again the the judge and handler know one another, and then some are perfect standard but unfortently so many dosg go through because the handler is face, i judge as well and i can say i am a honest judge, i know that i am also a face and will do well because of who ia m but we alwasy show good stock.

i really think you need to get out to a show and see the bigger picture aso it is proven that temp is more affected by external factors than genes so please get your facts right before saying something that si factualy wrong
 
@Top Horse

You are not the only one that shows - You have also ignored several requests to confirm your breeds/affix - if it is as I have posted then your G'mother currently appears on the A list for Weim's (Judging) alas on the 2007 Scottish (or UK) lists neither you nor your mum appear - not even on the C list and everyone makes the C list.

You are also not the only one that keeps Vizslak.

Regards

Mike
 
I show
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not very often though as it clashes with my agility training lol.

Kind of off topic, what breed do you have Mike? Just out of interest
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I have HWVs (as well as the JRTs and a GWP & 2 in partnership)
 
right i have contacted admin abot this as you are not allowed to put details liek my grandmothers name, mothers etc, my gradmother has judged weimaraners at champshow and gave cc's, judged hwv at champ shows bred sc ch i have my fist champshow judging apoinment sogiven to me this year at the age of 17!!!! the bis judge of crufts zena thorn andrews said i could show her dogs anyday after she awarded me best junior handler of scotland. i really dont understand why so many people on hear have to come up with imature and spiteful comments- you must be jelous
 
Hi EchoDomino

We breed Labs and Spaniels, we have several current field trial champions in our Kennels, plus other trial winners. We take in all gundog breeds for training. My kennel link is in my profile.

@Tophorse - guess you did not like being found out to be a fraud then after all?

I am sure the HH Admin will read the thread, and take it for what it is. After all you were the one shouting how great you were - If you actually read this thread at NO POINT does it name anyone but you.

Yes it gives both Affix's and if the rest of the board would like to google "Redfurs" then they will of course see the results for themselves.

Regards

Mike
 
just like to say our kennel is fraud and how dare you say that we are if you want to LIE then go ahead but it will only show the hho member that you are a big liar- say tha we are frauds, i have no reson to lie, we have great dogs- produced gorgeous stock, our dogs behave well, best dogs to usand i am a successful handler who when i showed alot more was at the top of my game but i am focusing on the breed now as been at it since i was 6.
 
I did not say anything about your dogs, I have not seen a Redfurs dog, so cannot comment on them - I said you are a fraud - please learn to read.

Read all of YOUR posts - then once you have deciphered them - Decide which story you would like to stick too?

Regards

Mike
 
Tophorse- I'm afraid its clear several other ppl on here are not in agreement with your breeding ethics. I still can't find where you've confirmed which dogs you breed.
You have stated that we're not professionals and at this point only will I now mention that I have dog psychology merits and I have spoken at length with one of my trainers about this. The fact is (an opinion shared by many other dog professionals I know) that bitches with bad temperaments should be excluded from breeding programmes.
How dare you assume we are all 'amatuers on here'. I've been involved with dog training and behavioural consultation for years now and I'm far from an amatuer.
My uncle bred Airedale terriers for 25 years and I learnt a lot from him.
Incidently the border terrier bitch my parents bred from came from aggressive parents also. Her parents were actually crufts champions in the early 80's. However, it serves as a warning that her aggressive tendancies were passed onto her pups, 2 of them ended up muzzled most of the time as adults.
This has digressed from the OP now and I'm no longer commenting on the OP's dog in particular but you stated very early on that you didn't believe breeding from aggressive dogs was a problem. Seriously bad advice from a 'professional' and I'd be very interested to hear if the KC agreed with your ethics as this, I'm sure, does NOT promote responsible and selective breeding.
Pups have to learn so much from their mothers and whilst the owners have a huge responsibility to socialise pups the fact is that what happens to a pup in the first few weeks of its life stays with them forever. If the pups own mother cannot set a good example then the damage is done and I've seen the devastating results of this in many dogs I've had to handle and re-train.
 
Well the way I read it, no-one has broken any T&C's
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. You have told us what you do, another member has figured out whom you are and mentioned this....and? I can't see any problem myself.

We are all someone....

Lots of people on here know me and my business; and I have no qualms about anyone knowing whom I am and what I do......just like we all know what many other users on here do for a living and whom they are.

I am confused as to why us knowing whom you are has caused upset?
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who the hell do u think u are talking to?!?!?!?!? Tophorse is a close friend of mine and has a vast amount of showing experiance and truely cares for her animals.

moreover it is not forum etiquete for 'newbies' to come along and personaly attack well repected forum members!!!
 
we def disagree with what you saying but i suppose it is your opinion and many dont share it in the prof dog world, i am not making out i am better than you as a human being but i have alot of experiance and work ed with professionals, i am respected and i appreciate some trying to challenge what we have and dont have, i have not lied one bit and dont intend to.

i dont agree with you having to muzzle yours dogs(i think ) that is cruel but up to you. if alos think you have go it wrong when you say it is the first few weeks with mother that dictates what the dogs temp will be like, not at all, that is so utrue. but like i said that is what you think and i have no wishes to change yor mind.
 
hi there just joined and perusing the forum

some interesting posts here and seems a hotly debated topic

only one comment i have here TH - how at 17 can you really call yourself professional. Lets face it, you are young, and there are people on here with more life experience and many many years more dog experience than you, whether you have been brought up with them or not.. at 17 you have a lot to learn, maybe one day you will be able to fight your corner in a more constructive way.

Hopefully you will mature into a sensible calm lady who accepts comments with dignity and acepts other peoples opinions with grace. Other people can be right you know....
 
Its bizarre that tophorse is quick to jump on ppl guessing information instead of just providing us with the info on the dogs they breed and show - it might just help support her story??
 
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Well the way I read it, no-one has broken any T&C's
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. You have told us what you do, another member has figured out whom you are and mentioned this....and? I can't see any problem myself.

We are all someone....

Lots of people on here know me and my business; and I have no qualms about anyone knowing whom I am and what I do......just like we all know what many other users on here do for a living and whom they are.

I am confused as to why us knowing whom you are has caused upset?
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tia, i dont mind people knowing who i am, i always offer advice breeders number etc if peeps want help on here but i dont appreciate someone researching my keenle/my/family and dogs on what we have, our affix, what judging lists we are on which is all exclusive info and if i wanted to say i would but MY MOTHER asked me not to, she s greatly upset now that people have said on here now
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, i dont mind having a debate but alot of nasty people have made it personal to me and upset me in the process
 
I'm just confused as to why, because a name has been mentioned, that Admin should be called in? I'm genuinely interested.
 
its up to her how much if any info she discloses regarding her personal life, there have been many problems with people infiltrating peoples day to day lifes....not so long ago if i remember rightly
 
Tophorse - I DID NOT SAY I had to muzzle my dogs - please read it carefully. My parents bred a litter of border terriers from an aggressive bitch, the pups were sold and 2 of the adults were muzzled by their owners - for goodness sake take more care before you make your comments. I do not have to justify my opinions, it seems your opinions are in the minority here. Its a forum and I accept ppl are going to differ in opinion but seriously I am worried about your actual 'knowledge'!
 
I can understand that but you aren't doing anything wrong and you aren't saying anything wrong therefore what does it matter?

Incidentally, oopsie, I did a bit of Googling to find out who Miliscer was when he first came on here - I believe we had a slight disagreement (but then with me who hasn't had a disagreement LOL!!) and I put up his website - he wasn't bothered and I believe he had some very nice comments made. He's a nice guy......honest!
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As you are a lovely young lady
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Don't get het up on this; it's no biggie - you just had a disagreement that's all....hey it happens to me all the time
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