Help!! Boxrest-bed-eater, hemp bedding!

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Help!! Any advice will be gladly received!

My gorgeous ten year old event gelding has just sadly been diagnosed as having navicular. The vet has ordered three weeks of box rest till we get to see him again for him to re assess. Seeing as he is a little portly, the vet wants some weight off him too. Egg bars went on yesterday.

We are only on day three and Mont has been caught eating his bedding two days in a row now.
He is on hemp flax which is supposidly treated to stop them eating it (Bliss bedding). If anyone can advise us how we can do things better and how we can stop him bed eating please please say..... just want whats best for him and desperately trying to stop him bed eating so he doesnt get colic too! I know that people recommend spraying jays fluid but I am so worried that if he eats this then he would poison himself too!
We are so lucky that my husband works from home so is camping out in the horsebox and working there for 12 hours a day so we can be at the yard so he/I are able to be with him as much as possible as he is a very 'busy' horse.

His current day consists of,

8am, half scoop bran, handfull of chop with usual suppliments, plenty of water. Put in empty box with rubber matting, with treat ball. Small section of hay.

At some point during the morning he will also have a small wheelbarrow of fresh grass, massage pad and groomed. Clicker training and ten mins with a respiritory lick but watching the molasses overdose ;-)

Lunch, small section of hay.
Afternoon, treat ball, more clicker training, a few more minutes on his respiritory lick and some more fresh grass.

7pm'ish, Back in his usual box (bed eating!), Half scoop of bran, handfull of chop, usual suppliments, haynet with well soaked hay, another small wheelbarrow of fresh grass.

The nets are double netted haylage nets, he has a constant supply of water with an automatic waterer plus water with 'horsequencher'.

It sounds like he eats an awful lot but the grass is gone in about ten minutes and his net only lasts about an hour too if we are lucky. he is a good doo-er too which does not help, we are trying to feed small portions throughout the day but trying to get him to loose weight and keep him occupied is really hard. The yard has no horses in in the day and the stabels are indoors and he is in the corner box with no view outside........ Even though they are on rubber matting we are not allowed to go without bedding (wouldnt like to anyway but even as a last resort to stop him bed eating).

Please help!!!!
 
Could you swap to shavings whilst he is on box rest?

You could also try soaking your hay for over 12 hours to take more of the sugars out of it which means you could feed him more of it.

We used to spray dilute Jeyes fluid on the straw beds when I was young and it didn't seem to cause a problem for any othe the ponies.
 
Thanks Eggs, thats fab, the nets are soaked from 9am to 7pm but will buy some more so they can be done for overnight so one is done for the morning and the other is done over day. Not allowed to use shavings on our yard (??!!) but will buy some jayes and experiment, thanks so much for your quick reply
 
Having lost my pony to impaction colic due to eating hemp bedding I'd put up a big fight to use shavings. Extenuating circumstances & all.
 
Sorry to hear your horse is on box-rest. It must be a real worry if he is eating his bedding. Do you feed the sections he gets at breakfast and lunch in a haynet? I know double haynets slow them down, but personally I find that a very smalled haynet slows them down a bit more (I'm not talking hours but an extra 10to15 minutes help I suppose). I have used this one:
http://www.4horse.co.uk/product.php?code=TE35
(I have seen them cheaper elsewhere)

which is good and they do struggle to get the hay out but that is the whole point!

and made my own out of this stuff:
http://www.allplas.co.uk/acatalog/35mmx3mm_Cricket_Netting.html

Slightly bigger holes so it is a bit easier for them, and a really tough material. The only drawback is having to make it.

I have never tried it but I suspect hanging it from the ceiling might help so that it hasn't got a wall around it - then he can't push on something to get the hay out - it might take longer still.

Could you use a different bedding - cardboard for instance. I'll admit, it's not great as a bedding but it's ok and might do temporarily. Megazorb or the wood pellets might also be an idea.

Maybe cut out the bran and chaff and just give a general purpose vitamin / mineral supplement mixed with the hay or grass.

Good luck.
 
Hemp is pretty lethal. Put him on paper or peat. Paper is great, Ive used it in the past and loved it. Peat is pretty awful to work with (and look at) but is 100 per cent unedable.
 
i would double net in very small hole nets to slow down, and bed wither onto shavings or paper, spray bed with disinfectant as they will still pick! You said he is a busy horse but keeping him company all the time will just make him think something might happen! i would leave him in peace he will settle and doze. ahy am/lunch/pm/late eve. Also i would probably not feed him bran, just a scoop of hi fi with vits (if he really needs them? and can absorb them). Have you talked to your vet about giving him a ml or 2 of sedalin am to settle him for the day? Again someone always checking him/watching him wont help him settle! Treat balls wont help his waist line and clicker training will stimulate him. you really want him bored and dieting! As he has had his eggbars on is there a reason that he cant be turned out in a small paddock just to mooch around?
 
Thank you so much guys for you taking the time to reply. I value all your opinions ;-)

I am double netting hay and have changed to one net first and last thing and a net of grass at lunch time and last thing. Grass also double netted.

In view of what many of you have said, I think I shall move towards cardboard bedding short term as I went in this morning and he had a mouth full, pig!

He currently has one or two ACP's when needed but most of the time he is fine.

I am not sure why the vet said he had to be in 3 weeks, I was alone when I got the verdict and tried to remember evetything I could but was so gutted with what I was being told, sure I have forgot bits. Vet now on holiday :-(

Thank you so much and fingers crossed this will stop him :-)
 
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