Help Humphrey

I wonder if this horse had been on the fat side of healthy instead of the lean side would there still be a problem.
People seem to find fat horses more acceptable (esp on here where alot of ppl own fat cobs) than thin horses but both will be unfit and put stress on their hearts over the course of the ride.

Its been a long winter and a lot of people have had problems getting quality feed for their animals, here in Ireland we had 100s of cattle and other animal die due to lack of food and had to get loads of hay imported a few weeks back after the poor summer and awful winter. It was national news for weeks. So the long winter can definately be an influence.
 
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In regards to the bandaged leg it was an old injury that was to be kept covered as it was sensitive..

That's what's his old owner put on facebook. Dont really believe it right enough, fox has shredded both his back legs and one has lots of bald patches and scarring and the leg isn't any more sensitive than the rest. Hopefully Humphrey will be well cared for now whatever the outcome, he's a poor old soul.
 
Have not read the whole thread but from what I understand (and I could be wrong) there were 2 horses seized and the prosecution referes to "a horse" so did this man own both or is the other going to be a separate prosecution? If they are prosecuting I would expect them to be confident of a conviction so they must have got the evidence or vets reports they need.
 
crabbymare said:
Have not read the whole thread but from what I understand (and I could be wrong) there were 2 horses seized and the prosecution referes to "a horse" so did this man own both or is the other going to be a separate prosecution? If they are prosecuting I would expect them to be confident of a conviction so they must have got the evidence or vets reports they need.
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I believe the 2 horses had separate owners
 
weesophz said:
In regards to the bandaged leg it was an old injury that was to be kept covered as it was sensitive..

That's what's his old owner put on facebook. Dont really believe it right enough, fox has shredded both his back legs and one has lots of bald patches and scarring and the leg isn't any more sensitive than the rest. Hopefully Humphrey will be well cared for now whatever the outcome, he's a poor old soul.
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Don't know how you feel you can compare your horses injury and how it healed, with another horse. Humphrey apparently degloved that leg, if this included down the cannon bone, I can completely see how the scar tissue could be fragile/delicate and need protection to prevent further injury.
 
piebaldsparkle said:
Don't know how you feel you can compare your horses injury and how it healed, with another horse. Humphrey apparently degloved that leg, if this included down the cannon bone, I can completely see how the scar tissue could be fragile/delicate and need protection to prevent further injury.
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its the exact same injury, fox degloved his leg and was on boxrest for 3 weeks with it, then was allowed a few hours turnout. has a white scare the size of 50p from where it healed. before that hed ripped the skin off both hind legs right down the cannon bone but we have no idea how, wish i still had the pictures it was gruesome.

however yes every horse is different.
 
amymay said:
What updates are you expecting?
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What sort of question is that surely its fairly obvious.

Whether the owners were charged with anything, whether sspca have said anything, whether the horse might be going back to the girl who was loaning him, why the horse was taken. Basically all the questions that have been asked throughout the thread!!
 
Yesterday press release from SSPCA "A 36-year-old man from West Lothian will be reported to the procurator fiscal for causing unnecessary suffering to a horse following a Scottish SPCA investigation and independent veterinary advice.
The horse was removed from premises in East Calder in May 2013 due to welfare concerns.
The Scottish SPCA is a reporting agency to the Crown Office Procurator Fiscal Service and our inspectors are authorised to enforce the Animal Health and Welfare (Scotland) Act 2006.
We can issue no further comment at this stage."

That is the state of play at the moment as far as I am aware. There is a Facebook page called "Help Humphrey" where you can draw your own conclusions on who is right and who is wrong. Just don't believe everything you read there.
 
It will rumble on for a while, the law is a long process! But I am keeping my beady eyes on them LOL. Most of the people on the FB page don't even know those involved so how can they form an opinion on what has gone on. And one person in particular doesn't like anyone who dares to disagree.
 
Yes if they only new the truth about him they would not be backing but hopefuly very soon the truth will come out and peoole will see the real him for what he is
 
snooples said:
I wonder if this horse had been on the fat side of healthy instead of the lean side would there still be a problem.
People seem to find fat horses more acceptable (esp on here where alot of ppl own fat cobs) than thin horses but both will be unfit and put stress on their hearts over the course of the ride.
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I think this is a really intresting point.
 
I have seen Humphrey looking a lot better than he did on the day of the Ride, in my humble opinion he wasn't in the right condition to cope with the Ride. And just to re-iterate, he WAS hacked to the Ride. I don't care what anyone says on HH facebook page, whoever says he was trailered to the Ride is a liar :mad:
 
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I have seen Humphrey looking a lot better than he did on the day of the Ride, in my humble opinion he wasn't in the right condition to cope with the Ride. And just to re-iterate, he WAS hacked to the Ride. I don't care what anyone says on HH facebook page, whoever says he was trailered to the Ride is a liar :mad:
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well done OAP65, keep on saying it as it is.
 
Tbh I dont see what the big deal is, the picture of the horse on the ride isnt that bad he is a bit skinny but nothing awful considering he is an older TB after probably the hardest winter we have ever had, so I cant imagine how hard it was in Scotland.
Horses naturally lose weight over winter so I wouldnt expect him to tbe the same as the picture of him last summer where he looked fantastic.
Reports seem to be he was full of energy for the ride.

Iv often seen obese horses and much skinnier horses on rides and havent ever heard of a situation where the horse gets seized without warning.

Im just going to assume there is a lot more to this story than a slightly skinny TB and that the sspca had been in contact with the owner a number of times prior to seizing the horse.
 
Just posting on this now!

With everyone who is oblivious to their own errors, they never think they have done anything wrong, and always think its someone elses fault, they cant take an objective view because they are oblivious to the fact they might be doing something wrong, and take no responsibility for their actions.
Were are the statements saying, yes he is underweight (thats not a fit TB by any measure!) but we were trying to get the weight on him. They cant accept the poor old boy looks terrible, but acknowledge it and at least explain why. Denial Denial Denial!!!

They are not telling the whole truth about that animal and what happened before it even got to the ride out that day. I dont believe for a second that the first time they ever had any involvment with the SSPCA was when they turned up to take it on that day.

That animal was in a shocking state to be taken on a ride. Simple as that. Its an elderly horse, really in poor condition, it should have been kept at home and fed. Not out on a ride.

This nonsense about our scottish winter etc, its edinburgh for god sake, not shetland. Yes its been longer than normal, but if your horse drops off and looses condition, being 20+, the very last thing you would do would be to take it on a blooming ride out!

And the realitiy is that its very easy to flood every website, facebook etc with one side of a story when the other side can't comment.

I will also mention that the person who is supposed to be from this Scottish wildlife charity, is a complete con man. He is up to no good! Dont be fooled by the pick up with sign writing and nonsense he spouts and certinley DO NOT GIVE HIM MONEY!!! could say more but wont!
 
Well said! Couldn't agree more, if anyone posts on their FB page a comment that doesn't agree with them, or asks a searching question, then it is either ridiculed or deleted. Half the people on there don't even know the people in question, so how can they possibly form an opinion. I know the SSPCA have their haters and I have heard of some awful situations but I believe in this instance they did the right thing.

And as for that other Wildlife organisation, well, yes he is a bit of an odd ball and people should steer well clear.

I hope Humphrey eventually goes to a good home, he has been through a lot in his life and deserves a home where he will be appreciated for the lovely horse he is.
 
I have been reading this story with interest and it amazes me the power social media has. However it is beginning to annoy me that everyone thinks that this young girl owns the horse, she is not the legal owner and a report has been sent to the PF regarding the owner.
 
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