help with fizzy trotter cross

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can anyone give me any advice on how to steady my horse up. he is rising 6, 15hh trotter cross. i have had him since a day old and bought him from travellers. i broke him myself and have done the best i can with the minimal experience i have. i have him in a snaffle bridle, treeless saddle (solutions saddle) and he is on the new simple systems feeding so all natural. when i take him out he walks really fast like a man on speed and it so jumpy and snorting at things. he is a total nightmare. ppl from the ground think wow he looks nice and how nice it is not to leg him but to be honest its nice for about 5 mins then u have a stitch and are begging just to walk at a normal cace and not like something is gonna jump out the bush and eat u. anyway walk is the least of my worries cos the trot is 100 times worse. u ask him to trot and u go from 5mph to 100mph and he leaves u behind. i try using my seat but he just so bouncy i really struggle. if i manage to sit deep and not let him rush he ok but then he will speed up after a while and i just cant control him. half half, ha what are they, i try but he just laffs at me. he rushes off so fast i end up water skiing. i need to work out how to steady him up without having to pull on the reins as i hate doing it but its the only thing that works at the moment. canter wel thats gorgeous he is like a rocking horse. i think cos he is bred to trot as soon as u ask him he rushes and boy that horse can trot. any advice would be much appreciated. added pics so u can see what he like
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I'm afraid to say I have no useful advice but wanted to post to say he's gorgeous!
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Good on you for breaking him yourself, I wouldn't have the first clue how to do something like that.

I'm sure plenty of people here will have some great advice for you and best of luck with calming him down.
 
What a gorgeous horse.I can see how people admire his looks.he really is stunning. it sounds to me like his issues are down to a lack of understanding on his part. If you are getting left behind when he speeds up this will cause him to rush more and more,hence the speedy trot. I really think you need someone to school him and teach him what is needed,as no offence intended but it sounds as though although you have done a good job with him he needs someone with more knowledge to refine what has been taught to him.
 
thanks for your kind comments about him, he is a nice looking animal.

in response to spike i totally agree with u that it is me that is not helping him, but to be honest no one else really wants to ride him and the ones that do want to cos he is fizzy and that will buggar him up even more. i have started having lessons with a dressage instructor and they are going well although is is not a problem in the school infact he is bloody lazy its the open ground i have the problem. i know i dont help cos i lean forward in trot which makes him think oh she wants me to go faster. he is just not an easy horse to work out. the travellers sold his dad cos they could not cope with him and now i know why. i changed his feed hoping that this would help. im hoping that he is worse cos of the winter and being stabled. any suggestions are much appreciated though
 
would it be possible for your instructor to come out on a hack with you to assess what he is doing and how to go about correcting it?
 
What is he like schooling? I think you need to work him constantly between the letters changing pace between each one so he doesn't know what's coming next, just keep hims mind guessing?

I bought a book called 101 schooling exercises for horse and rider and it is FABULOUS!! It gives loads of exercises but bands them for both rider and horse, what level of rider etc.

Depending what you want to achieve it ie 'how can I teach an older horse etc' it recommends certain schooling exercises. It also covers problems you are having. It says 'my horse tends to rush, what can I do' and then there are 8-10 schooling exercises

I found it so helpful as I have my first horse and wanted something to tell me what to do in various circumstances - this book does exactly that. It guides you really well and we have both really benefitted from it.

Might be of help and assistance to you to?

Beautiful horse by the way
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yeah he is ok with schooling, if anything he can be a bit lazy and stubborn. he the total opposite riding him out

he a strange animal one week he is asleep and the next like a crazed animal. id like someone else to ride him but there isnt anyone i trust as i think if u rode him fast it would blow his brains

ive tried it all now, changed the feed and taken all sugars etc out, he just on luice nuts, lucie stalks, pura beat and vitamins with simple systems, had them come out and assess him and they said he a sugar addict, the feed change has worked alot.

he is turned out everyday so no excuses that he is not out letting off steam.

did consider sending him away but then he doesnt settle well in ned places and then id have to introduce him to the herd again plus im worried he will come back to advance for me.

i just went on ebay and bought that book u were talking about so will give that a go.

have a look on you tube for video ickle emmy - horse fall. you will see his trot and that in hand.

thanks for the advice.

i know i also need to flex him as he struggles with that and think that will help with the trot as he sticks his head up and goes for it where as if i can get him to bend it will assist with the asking him for different aids to take his mind off of rushing off
 
I can understand your problems, my boy has similar issues, he is part Hackney and came from traveller's that drove him as a baby, so trotting like a mad horse is second nature to him too. He also can be very different from one ride to the next.

One of the things i have found is not to go into trot on a long straight stretch, as he wants to get to the end as fast as possible, so i find i can keep him steadier on a bendy road. When they trot like the clappers its very hard to slow your rising as you do find yourself just bouncing to thier rythm.

If you don't mind me saying your lower leg looks as if it could come back a tad, a bit more in line with your hip and shoulder, that could be part of what is causing you to be left behind. He is a beautiful horse and you look as if you have done a fab job so far.
 
have you incorpurated the 1/2 halt in your schooling if so use it out riding also maybe a slight change or bit what is he in mouth piece wise is it a double joint or single joint?
 
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