emaR
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Looking for help/advice with behaviour in the school
I got my ottb gelding 3 year ago now, he was perfect when I got him until we got into the school...I was having lessons, tried a couple of instructors to find a good one things were good but he was always abit nappy, one day he pulled a stunt where he dropped a shoulder spun and bucked - ain't no-one sitting that type of stunt. It became abit of a regular thing as he knew it would get me off. I always got back on again and we would finish on a good note.
I got to the point where I was ready to give up as I didn't know how to fix this, had a couple of people come out and ride him who he would nap for but not as bad and was given the difficult horse title. I decided to move yards as a couple had suggested he wasn't settled where we were because it was quite and not like a race yard. Although he was fine on the ground and put hacking. Best thing we ever did! He stepped off the lorry a completely different horse so chill loving life. We both enjoyed settling in hacking etc. I avoided the school as I felt I needed an instructor to help past the basics. 6/7 months ago I stated having lessons with a fab instructor who was told he can nap.
He didn't show any of these signs apart from sometimes he would throw in a spook or as she said have a bit of a debate about what your asking him to do before doing it. She has ridden him and puts him under more pressure than I do but generally he goes quite nicely. Her favourite line to say was you need to make him think it's his idea to get him to do what you want him to do. Sometimes he can be reluctant to go forward. I had another experienced rider ride him a couple of times a week to get him going nicely aswel which he did.
An then a couple of weeks ago he started when I asked him to go into trot, he was napping on this lesson, he starts with pinning his ears and swishing his tail, he cow kicked and then pulled the ain't no-one sitting that stunt with an audience who finally see the stunt I've told them all about and said exactly that when I came off spinning in the air. Luckily not hurt. I got straight back on and rode him round in walk. Instructor wanted me to trot him again but I could feel he was going to do it again. Anything other than a walk and he's going to chuck me off again as he gives all the signs before the stunt. It's not leg pressure because I even dropped the reins and leg and asked him forward through voice commands and he still behaved the same. We finished the lesson on a good note but at walk.
I went back in another day. Same thing except I didn't allow it to reach the stage of chucking me off.
The other more experienced rider got on and he went like butter wouldn't melt for her going forward etc.
Next lesson tried again and I told her I could feel It coming so instructor got on and agreed he was napping and in her words being abit of a pig but eventually he went lovely for her.
The other girl schooled him again .. again fine for her.
I have hacked him out loads in-between these and he's absolutely fine for me will school on a hack go forward etc and he's absolutely perfect on the ground.
I had an idea to go into the school with poles as a distraction, all the whole he was focussing on the pole fine, he went into trot eventually but in-between the pole he would pin his ears swish tail but then was back at the pole before u knew it so forgot about the napping.
We've hit abit of a wall, I don't want to take him in there unless I know how to fix it as it will just get worse and I want to nip it in the bud before he reacts big. He's very quick and sharp and you don't get much warning if any at all when it happens.
Has anyone got any help or advice please
Using a whip ridden doesn't do much it either winds him up more or he retaliates with a cow kick. Though when lunging he's fine with whip.
I also don't want to do the poles too much incase he gets clever to that.
Teeth saddle physio all newly checked
I just don't understand why he won't go forward for me but is fine for the other girl.
I debated ulcers but figured they would show at any time and not just in the school
Thanks in advance
I got my ottb gelding 3 year ago now, he was perfect when I got him until we got into the school...I was having lessons, tried a couple of instructors to find a good one things were good but he was always abit nappy, one day he pulled a stunt where he dropped a shoulder spun and bucked - ain't no-one sitting that type of stunt. It became abit of a regular thing as he knew it would get me off. I always got back on again and we would finish on a good note.
I got to the point where I was ready to give up as I didn't know how to fix this, had a couple of people come out and ride him who he would nap for but not as bad and was given the difficult horse title. I decided to move yards as a couple had suggested he wasn't settled where we were because it was quite and not like a race yard. Although he was fine on the ground and put hacking. Best thing we ever did! He stepped off the lorry a completely different horse so chill loving life. We both enjoyed settling in hacking etc. I avoided the school as I felt I needed an instructor to help past the basics. 6/7 months ago I stated having lessons with a fab instructor who was told he can nap.
He didn't show any of these signs apart from sometimes he would throw in a spook or as she said have a bit of a debate about what your asking him to do before doing it. She has ridden him and puts him under more pressure than I do but generally he goes quite nicely. Her favourite line to say was you need to make him think it's his idea to get him to do what you want him to do. Sometimes he can be reluctant to go forward. I had another experienced rider ride him a couple of times a week to get him going nicely aswel which he did.
An then a couple of weeks ago he started when I asked him to go into trot, he was napping on this lesson, he starts with pinning his ears and swishing his tail, he cow kicked and then pulled the ain't no-one sitting that stunt with an audience who finally see the stunt I've told them all about and said exactly that when I came off spinning in the air. Luckily not hurt. I got straight back on and rode him round in walk. Instructor wanted me to trot him again but I could feel he was going to do it again. Anything other than a walk and he's going to chuck me off again as he gives all the signs before the stunt. It's not leg pressure because I even dropped the reins and leg and asked him forward through voice commands and he still behaved the same. We finished the lesson on a good note but at walk.
I went back in another day. Same thing except I didn't allow it to reach the stage of chucking me off.
The other more experienced rider got on and he went like butter wouldn't melt for her going forward etc.
Next lesson tried again and I told her I could feel It coming so instructor got on and agreed he was napping and in her words being abit of a pig but eventually he went lovely for her.
The other girl schooled him again .. again fine for her.
I have hacked him out loads in-between these and he's absolutely fine for me will school on a hack go forward etc and he's absolutely perfect on the ground.
I had an idea to go into the school with poles as a distraction, all the whole he was focussing on the pole fine, he went into trot eventually but in-between the pole he would pin his ears swish tail but then was back at the pole before u knew it so forgot about the napping.
We've hit abit of a wall, I don't want to take him in there unless I know how to fix it as it will just get worse and I want to nip it in the bud before he reacts big. He's very quick and sharp and you don't get much warning if any at all when it happens.
Has anyone got any help or advice please
Using a whip ridden doesn't do much it either winds him up more or he retaliates with a cow kick. Though when lunging he's fine with whip.
I also don't want to do the poles too much incase he gets clever to that.
Teeth saddle physio all newly checked
I just don't understand why he won't go forward for me but is fine for the other girl.
I debated ulcers but figured they would show at any time and not just in the school
Thanks in advance
he's got so good with this now though we practiced loads will happily have horses pass by out and about and not need to be with them when he's hacking alone
