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Bloody horses. Both feel great in themselves but Bear has been drinking more than normal and bloods have snowed slightly raised liver enzymes. He’s having another test today and then a scan and biopsy potentially. Vet not too concerned and says carry on as normal as he’s totally fine in himself but still- always a bit worrying!

Hopefully we will get to the bottom of it. A little video from this morning, I wished I was on Bear when I saw that lot coming down the road (friend on Bear filming). I was expecting to be teleported into the middle of the field by Bog but it seems he’s finally growing up. Also been doing lots of riding and leading and they’ve been great, in fact Bog is the better behaved as Bear just tries to nip him!!!

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Bloody hell M , did you do something dreadful in a previous life to deserve all this shit in one year? Fingers crossed Bear is OK.
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Ah well Bears liver results have headed back to normal, still a bit out of range but very slight. Awaiting antibody and fecal liver fluke test. Still doesn’t explain the drinking so will see what comes back and then scan if he’s still at it.

Vet happy though so we will continue as normal for now!
Have they checked for kidney infection? We had one drinking excessively and it was caused by an infection
 

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Have they checked for kidney infection? We had one drinking excessively and it was caused by an infection

I assume so, a full blood panel was run. Next step is to scan inc kidneys I believe (maybe I’m wrong on that though!) if we don’t get anything conclusive from the liver fluke test
 

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Mine are both drinking alot lately, my mum said hers were too (2 or 3 hours away from me) we were both surprised given how wet it is currently but as all 5 ponies between us seem otherwise well and healthy we're just keeping an eye.
Hopefully it isn't anything sinister for Bear.
 

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yep I’m in two minds. The biopsy tbf seems very simple and we wouldn’t be considering it if it wasn’t for the drinking as well as the raised enzymes. We are considering treating for liver fluke given he came from Ireland but apparently the normal drug is very resistant to Irish liver fluke and the alternative can have some nasty side effects. Fecal test is often inaccurate though we will so that too just in case we get a clear result. Doesn’t rule it out though if it’s negative.
If you're thinking fluke Liverpool do an ELISA test that is more accurate in horses than the fecal test (they only shed low amounts of eggs & only at certain times of year). If you contact them they'll send you the info to forward to your vet. That's what I did when the Welsh one had raised liver enzymes & I wanted to rule it out as grazing had flooded a few times / was by a river & had been cross grazed with cattle & sheep at various times as well.

Edit: just seen you mention an antibody test so assume it's probably the same one. I only mentioned as my vets at the time had never heard of the test until I told them I wanted it & sent them the lab forms (Pushy? Moi?)
 

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If you're thinking fluke Liverpool do an ELISA test that is more accurate in horses than the fecal test (they only shed low amounts of eggs & only at certain times of year). If you contact them they'll send you the info to forward to your vet. That's what I did when the Welsh one had raised liver enzymes & I wanted to rule it out as grazing had flooded a few times / was by a river & had been cross grazed with cattle & sheep at various times as well.

Edit: just seen you mention an antibody test so assume it's probably the same one. I only mentioned as my vets at the time had never heard of the test until I told them I wanted it & sent them the lab forms (Pushy? Moi?)

Yes believe this is what my vet has already done- he's on it- super vet :)
 

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Photo influx! My friends and I had a weekends riding planned on the edge of the Cotswolds (second mini break of the month!), but a horse couldn't go, so a last minute decision was made to bring a Boggle stand in. I was a bit apprehensive as he would have to peel off to go home early on the long hack and obviously we are only walking with a bit of trot, but he was absolutely super. He was SO happy to be out and about, his little ears were so pricked the entire time. And he was really well behaved! It was quite special to take both boys actually, and I didn't stop grinning when I rode Bog (my friend and I swapped around a bit).

Bear was just delightful, bar annoyingly pulling the same shoe twice. He led the way with his forward and confident manner, had his first experience with water (streams) and was just generally superb. You would never know he was four and he has come such a long way. It seems another lifetime ago that when we met another walker I had to prepare for him to spin and try and gallop home... now he's the sort of horse you put in front to lead others past things.

Oh and he loves cows, even plastic ones, and no Bog nor the other horse would go near it but Bear- well. :D

Absolutely loved riding both boys, for different reasons :)



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Did you go onto the main road, across and over to the airfield then back up through the grounds of the big NT house, there’s a good gallop on the way home.

Ummm possibly, but we weren't really galloping as even when we didn't have Bog with us, I was a bit worried about Bear losing a shoe again!

Yes, went onto the main road though.
 

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This is my favourite: he looks like he loves crisps, but he's got his eye on that glass of what looks like carrot juice...


Another lovely photo.








How do you get them to stand so nicely for the camera?

HA- it was a Bloody Mary. I needed it!

umm, they were all playing with eachother the whole time so was just a quick snap!!
 

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A little pony update whilst I remember!

Boggle has been completely bonkers. I always thought he went so fiery in the winter because he was so fit and hunting. Nope. The only time he’s not nuts is if I lead Bear off him where he’s an absolute angel ?‍♀️ So on Tuesday we are having a 20 min walk dressage lesson in the school so I can get some exercises to do to keep his ridiculously busy brain occupied. Roll on February where we can officially start some “proper” work one year post diagnosis.

My vet did say just crack on with him and bring him back but I am keeping very strictly to walk and trot out hacking with short bendy walk work in the school to keep him ticking over and mobile with his hocks whilst still giving the ligament every chance of a long term recovery.

Bear is being a poppet, I have just taken him back in the school and he’s WTC very sweetly and feels much stronger, happier and just a lovely chap. I’m very very fond of him and have no intention of selling unless his jumping doesn’t turn out to be what I need (confidence giving) or something changes financially. He also has a lesson Tuesday and hopefully I’ll introduce some small jumps in the next month or so, before he gets a winter break. He was super fresh and broncy out hunting the other day but it made me grin a little in truth, and he left and hacked home from the meet so angelically that he more than redeemed himself

No interesting pics I’m afraid but hopefully some videos to follow next week. Oh and an 8 month old Pepper, whose turning into the most awesome little working doggie in training, flying all her lessons and showing true talent. Field trials here we come (maybe ;) )


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