HHO's "Bear" project pony...

Michen

Well-Known Member
Joined
22 January 2014
Messages
12,237
Visit site
Ooooh that pony face! Mine makes similar faces (big carthorse head tho) and despite the behaviour being exasperating to deal with, I can't help but smile inside.

Love his velvety nose too.

I was not smiling earlier hahaha. And what can I do, he’s got it nailed with the whole I’m so nervous and scared thing. If it was Boggle I’d have walloped him on the arse and that would have been the end of it ??
 

ihatework

Well-Known Member
Joined
7 September 2004
Messages
22,520
Visit site
I was not smiling earlier hahaha. And what can I do, he’s got it nailed with the whole I’m so nervous and scared thing. If it was Boggle I’d have walloped him on the arse and that would have been the end of it ??

Try growling at him. Works for my conveniently anxious one who really would have a nervous breakdown if he got a wallop
 

LouisCat

Well-Known Member
Joined
17 May 2012
Messages
1,418
Visit site
You probably tried it but for planting did you try turning him round and reversing him in. I've found sometimes they back in because it kind of breaks the phase of trying to almost pull them in
 

ycbm

Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
Joined
30 January 2015
Messages
58,924
Visit site
That’s the plan, but I’m not about to have a horse go out on the lanes that’s not under saddle doing the basics in the school for at least several days confidently first. If we had got on him a few days ago and taken him out hacking It would have been completely irresponsible. The horse needs a bit of time to feel happy with his surroundings, having a rider on board etc and remembering what’s what since his upheaval in the safety of a school before we introduce him to the wider world again.

It will come and once he’s established with the above hopefully in a few days will be the time to take him out hacking.

These days, with the traffic, I wouldn't hack a horse who doesn't know what a leg yield is.
 

Michen

Well-Known Member
Joined
22 January 2014
Messages
12,237
Visit site
My beautiful Boggle is being immaculate now at ten mins twice a day. I underestimated him it was only the first walk that was an issue. I think he got wind of Bear and is now enjoying being the golden boy, and he really is, very proud of him (not about to lose the chifney though..just in case)97C70191-9A8F-4B81-B71F-DE0E7E9BF82B.jpeg
 

Michen

Well-Known Member
Joined
22 January 2014
Messages
12,237
Visit site
Massive morning for Bear! He had me to contend with. I long reined him around the yard turn away fields etc pretty good in all. Forward and relaxed. Until we came to a crackling electricity pylon and I very nearly lost him when he tried to piss off (slippery grass didn’t help). Learnt though, went past it again no issue.

His default when panicked is to run. I’m a little apprehensive about long reining him out hacking in case I lose him... hmmm.

He’s such a cheeky fella, asked him to stand and suddenly a front paw was waving around! So worked on that. He learns super super quick and doesn’t really need to be told twice.

Much better confidence wise in general on ground, had a full on hot bath and mane pull and seems to quite like the attention.

Excuse the shit lack of photos!
 

Myloubylou

Well-Known Member
Joined
20 February 2009
Messages
960
Visit site
This horse is going to really keep me on my toes lol. He’s an interesting mix of nervous with a massive dollop of stubborn pony cheek. Asked him to go in the wash box this eve..has been in it before just to have some carrots and get used to it. Absolutely planted, nothing I could do to get him in it. Proper full on cheeky pony face, his eyes all soft and mischievous.

It’s going to be really important that I get it absolutely right with him with cheeky pony behaviour vs genuine nerves... luckily he’s got super expressive eyes so it’s pretty obvious.

The pros say he is intelligent, stubborn and feisty amongst the nerves. I think they are right!!!

View attachment 42281View attachment 42282
he looks very handsome in his headcollar. Where did you get it? Headcollar that is
 

Michen

Well-Known Member
Joined
22 January 2014
Messages
12,237
Visit site
Oh that pony glint...very good Bear today long reining again with me. I am slightly amused at the paw waving when I ask him to stand still (but does re learn very quickly not to do it) and he is still trying this “you can’t tell me off I’m so nervous” thing which when he looks at me with this expression is no longer effective.

I also put him under a little pressure to get him into the wash box as really felt he was taking the piss this time which was successful and less than a minute.

So all in all a very cheeky character is emerging, and hardly nervous now as long as you make it clear what’s about to happen and don’t surprise him too much with anything.

832728B5-CCAE-41BD-B2B9-FBBD800CB50A.jpeg
 

Millie-Rose

Well-Known Member
Joined
2 April 2012
Messages
213
Visit site
Just to make you feel a bit better I had a breaker in this year that owner had Sat on and been walked round in hand then turned away. Owner long reined and got back to that point but didn't get on as no help then sent to me. I gave her a week of long reining to get used to me and settle in then started leaning over. She was so nervous and explosive it took 4 days of leaning over then another 5 days of being led round the school feeling like an unexploded bomb. I was starting to despair as she wasn't getting any better and owner who expected me to pick off where she'd left off was getting frustrated and wanted me to push on and see what happened. I didn't particularly want to get launched and mindful that she'd run until she was exhausted and through fences with owner when first rugged did not want her to learn that exploding got rid of her problem! Anyway day 6 of being Sat on she took a huge breath relaxed and was not a problem from that day on. Went from wobbling round being led to trotting round school on my own in that one session and was hacking and being a star three days after that. Did revert a bit once owner back on and was very tense and unhappy again and again after 5 to 6 days of this I was starting to think they weren't going to work as a partnership but again she all of sudden decided it was ok and was fine for owner thereafter. Shortly after that she went home and owner was riding on her own in paddock in all paces and hacking out with just a walker on ground. I would give yours the time the pro's obviously know what they're doing and pushing him before ready would be counterproductive but once he decides it's ok I think he'll be very quickly back to how he was at breeders I don't think you'll need to essentially re-break him which is I appreciate how it probably feels at the moment. I also agree with you there's no way in hell I would have attempted hacking this one when walking a circle in the school was still an issue. Not fair on other road users or safe for rider.
 

Michen

Well-Known Member
Joined
22 January 2014
Messages
12,237
Visit site
Just to make you feel a bit better I had a breaker in this year that owner had Sat on and been walked round in hand then turned away. Owner long reined and got back to that point but didn't get on as no help then sent to me. I gave her a week of long reining to get used to me and settle in then started leaning over. She was so nervous and explosive it took 4 days of leaning over then another 5 days of being led round the school feeling like an unexploded bomb. I was starting to despair as she wasn't getting any better and owner who expected me to pick off where she'd left off was getting frustrated and wanted me to push on and see what happened. I didn't particularly want to get launched and mindful that she'd run until she was exhausted and through fences with owner when first rugged did not want her to learn that exploding got rid of her problem! Anyway day 6 of being Sat on she took a huge breath relaxed and was not a problem from that day on. Went from wobbling round being led to trotting round school on my own in that one session and was hacking and being a star three days after that. Did revert a bit once owner back on and was very tense and unhappy again and again after 5 to 6 days of this I was starting to think they weren't going to work as a partnership but again she all of sudden decided it was ok and was fine for owner thereafter. Shortly after that she went home and owner was riding on her own in paddock in all paces and hacking out with just a walker on ground. I would give yours the time the pro's obviously know what they're doing and pushing him before ready would be counterproductive but once he decides it's ok I think he'll be very quickly back to how he was at breeders I don't think you'll need to essentially re-break him which is I appreciate how it probably feels at the moment. I also agree with you there's no way in hell I would have attempted hacking this one when walking a circle in the school was still an issue. Not fair on other road users or safe for rider.


Thanks! That does! Honestly it would have been madness to just jump on him and take him out within a few days he would have been a quivering wreck. His whole world has clearly been drastically (for him) rocked and I don’t think widening it too quickly too soon is the right way to go. I’m sure some may think we should have given him a week or so of doing nothing, but I actually think the quiet consistent work has been really good to build his confidence and get him into a settled routine. He’s done “something” every day even if only for 20 mins.

I suspect he will be properly under saddle during this coming week, I was due to take him home a week today and need to decide whether to then do that or leave him where he is for a bit longer but I’m leaning towards taking him home as planned and then I can really focus on the long reining out solo (we have a big field that’s a good 45 min route to do the entire way around) hacking in company etc to begin with and carry on from there.
 

Millie-Rose

Well-Known Member
Joined
2 April 2012
Messages
213
Visit site
Sounds like a plan I think I'd take him home and just take it steadily and move on a step when he feels ready. It's not like you haven't dealt with young ones before so trust your instincts. One of this mares issues was standing to be mounted owner suggested that her sister would have tied her to a strong fence then just got on, I can just imagine how that would have ended!
 

Michen

Well-Known Member
Joined
22 January 2014
Messages
12,237
Visit site
That naughty pony eye is just like my old 13hh pony's! He'd just give you this look when he knew he'd done something naughty :D I had him until he was 25 and he never lost that look so good luck with him :D

Hehe, Bog doesn't really have a naughty pony look... His eyes are always just bright and sort of "bring it on", not cheeky as such..

Definitely going to bring Bear home on Sunday, can't wait, trying to find Boggle's wardrobe to make sure they are both matching.....
 

CanteringCarrot

Well-Known Member
Joined
1 April 2018
Messages
5,956
Visit site
I have a P.R.E. with a very similar personality. I've gotten better at being about to tell his true nerves apart from his jokes - I cannot tell you the number of times I've rolled my eyes at this horse and carried on. Drama Queen...and a smart one.
I made the mistake of getting on him too quickly when he came from Spain. I think he either hid his nerves well at the time, or I wasn't attentive enough to them. So I can definitely respect you taking your time with this one. I had to take a week or two and do some "reassurance" training, but in the end we both came out alright!

I like a good pony, and there is a Connemara at the yard used for lessons with children, and I've seen her get a bit cheeky! Even on the ground. I laugh a bit on the inside because I know it is the true pony way! :p In my experience, I've found them to be bold yet quirky. I wouldn't turn down a handsome Connemara on my doorstep, that's for sure! Best of luck with Bear!
 
Top