Hind gut acidosis - supplement help please

Had to post - reading this thread with interest but nothing to add except: (and do forgive me, silly old Hector that I am), I still believe Andy Pandy was actually a girl and did anyone speak Clanger other than Oliver Postgate and my Dad?



As you were ... :D:p
 
I nearly cried when Oliver postgate died. I just love his voice.

Idris the fire Dragon, noggin the nog, need I say more????
 
Pogles Wood - a glass of Chateauneuf du Pap for anyone who remembers that with Pippin and Togg (and the booze-quaffing plant in the garden). Sniff .. such memories.
 
Haven't read all the replies, but my lad gets seasonal tummy upset, mainly when the good grass comes through. He has EPSM anyway, so is on a low sugar/starch/high oil diet, and gets a cheap as chips digestive supplement - the Norvite own brand one, contains live yea sacc cultures and some herbs and things. I increase the dose when he gets angsty, and keep on a maintenance dose. I also try to have him in during the late morning to afternoon when the sugar in the grass is at it's highest levels, so as to not upset his tum.
 
Mrs B said:
did anyone speak Clanger other than Oliver Postgate and my Dad?
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Yes me - I can still understand them :)

doriangrey said:
Pogles Wood - a glass of Chateauneuf du Pap for anyone who remembers that with Pippin and Togg (and the booze-quaffing plant in the garden). Sniff .. such memories.
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Oh yes, I loved Pogles Wood :)

OP - following this thread with interest
 
Belated update, unavoidably detained :)

I have my beautiful, gentle, trainable warmblood back again. I am so happy.

The big effect, I am pretty sure, is from soaking the acid out of the haylage. The mock equishure is definitely making his droppings both softer and bigger though, which is a very healthy sign I think.

50g per feed is to much, I think, and I have dropped it to 25g and I will be keeping him on it. He also gets 50g brewers yeast, 30g magnesium and 10g copper (because of my high iron/manganese levels) in feeds of soaked alfalfa pellets.

I put the bicarb in a pot with a lid, add 100 ml of oil, shake, and hey presto it's done.

This horse is the most honest creature I have ever known. If he will not work, there is always a physical reason for it. My challenge as his owner has been to find the reasons and sort them out. I hope for both our sakes I've got to the bottom of all of them now!
 
Hi Cptrayes. Thanks for the update. I've been watching this thread with great interest. My horse has been on Equishure for about 3 weeks now and I have noticed a huge improvement - but very open to ideas for saving some cash! Would you mind just going over your ingredients, mixing process and volumes in each feed again please? Many thanks
 
Ellibelli said:
Hi Cptrayes. Thanks for the update. I've been watching this thread with great interest. My horse has been on Equishure for about 3 weeks now and I have noticed a huge improvement - but very open to ideas for saving some cash! Would you mind just going over your ingredients, mixing process and volumes in each feed again please? Many thanks
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No problem :)

I bought 100% bicarbonate of soda, NaHCO3, food grade, from a reputable eBay supplier.

I have already used Tesco rapeseed oil, sold as vegetable oil at one pound a litre, with another horse to provide bulk free calories for several years now.

I put 100ml of the oil into an old 500g sudocrem pot. I add 25ml, which happens also to be 25 grams, of the bicarb.

I put the lid on and shake it, and the oil soaks into every tiny grain of the bicarb.

Pour it into damp alfalfa, stir, and there you have it. I know that it is reaching the hind gut, because if I feed too much of it, his droppings get too wet.

I do that for two feeds, morning and evening. He is a 17 hand horse who weighs around 630kg
 
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Prince33Sp4rkle said:
just as a quick CS update-he wont eat the bicarb, at all, not even mixed in to his yummy slobbermash so ive got some equishure and he starts that tonight.

fussy devil!
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I found the same with bicarb, even with one small scoop between 3 decent sized feeds! Equishure goes down well though :)
 
how is george on it?

he seemed to eat it up ok last night and this AM so fingers crossed.

not riding tonight but will ride tomorrow before work and should have an idea if its working by then i hope as i usually know one way or the other within 2/3 days!!!!
 
Hi I have had this problem for last 18 months with daughters pony. I have tried naf haylage balancer, thrive, brewers yeast, aloe vera juicend pink powder, none of which made a blind bit of difference! I now am feeding him hi fibre cubes with the haylage balancer and the pink powder and hey presto, we have a clean bottom for the first time in 18 months!! May not work for all, but it seems to have worked for ours and the cubes aren't even that expensive ��
 
Yes I did, it sorted him out with the hind gut issues, along with taking people's advice to feed him hay not haylage.

Unfortunately he gave himself two head fractures and was put down, but I was able to ride him happily for a very short time before the first fracture. I think it works.
 
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