Hooray a positive at last! aka - I love my Pelham and I'm not afraid to admit it

Moomince Pie said:
Point is, if someone is using double reins, then the curb rein should be pretty much loose unless in action, which would only be when necessary. So therefore, the only time this bit could be particularly severe is if someone is over zealous with their hands, or reliant on their hands for balance.

If someone is using roundings, then essentially the curb action is hindered and less effective anyway, so 'safer' for less considerate or experienced riders.

Personally I have only ever used straight bar pelhams as I find the nutcracker action of jointed a bit too harsh coupled with the curb (I always used double reins unless jumping) and poll pressure.
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I think spilt riens are better than roundings , can you still get them I have not seen any that I can think of for years.
 
Moomin059 said:
For example, for weight management I do not rug my horse and allow him to go lean over the winter so that he can go through more natural hormonal changes and allow a bit of leniency in the Spring and not risk laminitis - many people have been commenting that this horse needs a rug because they like their horses to be nice and toasty (mine is unclipped and very hairy and started the winter very fat). Clearly, what I am doing is not cruel and I am not seeing through rose tinted glasses because it's what I'd do and in my opinion rugging a horse in two rugs when it's 15˚C and sunny (yes this happens with some I know) is quite cruel as the horse has a risk of over heating or becomes dependant on a rug and then what happens when it's -10˚C? A duvet under 3 rugs? But this whole thing is a matter of how people have different opinions of what is best for their horse.
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I think what you need to remember is no one on here is out to harm their horse, and generally that is the case in real life too. For example, Reggie is very well-rugged throughout the year. He's on his holidays atm, and is still wearing all manner of fleeces and things to keep him warm. And as the temperatures plummet, yes, we do just keep adding more so he is kept toasty.

To you, this may seem ridiculous and OTT. However, it's rare the full story is pinned to the side of the horse... Reg needs to be kept warm to be kept happy. When he gets remotely chilled (his chilled appears to be normal for everything else!) he gets grumpy, stiff and lacks his usual spark. This appears to be the result of some from of ESPM- he's also happier now he's on a high-oil diet.

I think people like judging, and like their 'ideal', but not every horse likes that either. It's not people doing what they think is best in a misguided way, it's them feeling their way towards what makes their horse happy... The idea of Reg being barefoot and bitless is laughable! The others, well they could suit barefoot, but they need studs!
 
Lolo said:
I think what you need to remember is no one on here is out to harm their horse, and generally that is the case in real life too. For example, Reggie is very well-rugged throughout the year. He's on his holidays atm, and is still wearing all manner of fleeces and things to keep him warm. And as the temperatures plummet, yes, we do just keep adding more so he is kept toasty.

To you, this may seem ridiculous and OTT. However, it's rare the full story is pinned to the side of the horse... Reg needs to be kept warm to be kept happy. When he gets remotely chilled (his chilled appears to be normal for everything else!) he gets grumpy, stiff and lacks his usual spark. This appears to be the result of some from of ESPM- he's also happier now he's on a high-oil diet.

I think people like judging, and like their 'ideal', but not every horse likes that either. It's not people doing what they think is best in a misguided way, it's them feeling their way towards what makes their horse happy... The idea of Reg being barefoot and bitless is laughable! The others, well they could suit barefoot, but they need studs!
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I'm afraid in my experience, this is not the case in so many instances. How do you actually 'know' that no one on here is out to harm their horses? It really does happen you know, and more than you can imagine. Sad, yes, real, yes. I know from experience. We don't know who is on this forum, and yes, I can guarantee that somebody who has, will or does frequent this forum, will have, will be or at some point, be neglecting or abusing their horse in some way. It goes on, sadly.

Sorry - that is completely irrelevant to the original post - but just had to point out that just because people appear to 'care' on here, does not for one minute mean they are a responsible owner.
 
Caring and being responsible are two different things , I think horses can have very happy lives kept by people who are completly emotionally detchanted from provided they get high quality care and apporiate training.
I know people who are apsolutly hung up emotionally on their horses but their horses are not having a great time because of it.
On the forum I think you get a huge range of people that's part of the forums charm if you like from at one end the let the ponys run free on the plain to let's keep them in 24/7 because it's what we have always done plus a hundred variations in between .
I think some posters assume that all other posters are idiots until proven otherwise and sometimes these are the people who are most irked when they get advice they don't like so I don't quite get that either.
I think novices can get a hard time and that is a shame .
 
Funny how people take offence when someone states some basic or apparently obvious, the OP may already know it but that doesn't mean others do not gleam benefit.

Makes me laugh how some people get wrapped up in their own worlds :)
 
I used to jump my horse in a snaffle :O i felt so bad about pulling on his mouth as he was incredibly strong and would often either take a stride out or jump too close. My yard wouldn't let me change it. I moved yards and they immediately said that he didn't like his snaffle. He is now in a cherry roller snaffle (instead of just a plain egg but) for flat (which he loves-he goes great in) and a low part pelham (WITH roundings) I was hesitant at first to use it when my instructor first suggested it but he goes amazing! I only have to pull him when he gets a bit strong but at least now I am not tugging the whole time - and he carries himself!
 
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