horse accident in Leeds today

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I had a phone call today from a very distressd friend of mine, she was on her way to work when she saw a gypsy cob pony galloping flat out along the road attached to a large flat bed trailer, the driver had fallen off and had been ran over by a car that was following.
The poor pony crashed into a steel bollard and somehow manged to get unhitched from the cart and continued to gallop a futher 2 miles down the road.
The trailer was completely mangled, how the hell he got away with breaking anything is a miracle.
My friend finally managed to track the pony down along with a police woman who was also at the scene.
The police couldnt get any help with the injured pony at all, they had no facilities what so ever, they couldnt even get a vet to come out and treat him unless my friend left them her credit card details, which i find absolutely discusting, poor pony.
Anyway after a few phone calls she managed to get the pony transported to a yard, they have very kindly offered to look after the pony for a few days untill, it recovers.
Hes in a pretty bad way, the collar has damaged his throat and he has got a bad cut on his leg, he dosnt know what leg to rest, poor boy, he's very lucky.
Thing is, with him being a gypsy cob they are not sure that the owner will come foreward or pay for the treatment he needs and the lady can only keep him for a week.
Does anyhone know any rescues in that area that may be able to help.??
 
Your friend phoned us about this, this evening after it had happened, I work at a local rescue. It sounds horrific and well done for your friend for helping.

I couldn't think of anything at the time but have tried phoning your friend a couple of times this evening to discuss further. Will phone her tomorrow.

Hope the horse and the man involved are okay.
 
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Is this believed to be a traveller owned cob? As, in that case, they will take it back but don't hold your breathe about getting a penny for looking after it and treating it. I vote euthnase the traveller, sell the stollen caravan and with the money, pay for the health of the pony. It'll be better off not going back IMO.
 
That is absolutely disgusting! I understood that vet's were obliged to treat any animal that was in need in an emergency and worry about the money later, I cannot believe the police could not sort that out! Hope poor pony recovers well with no longlasting damage.
 
A lot of assumptions being made here. Just because it was a gypsy cob doesn't have to mean it was being driven by a criminal traveller.

For gods sake the driver was run over, he could actually care about the horse but not be in a position to do anything. Its not the typical gypsy cob broken loose from a tether story.

What if it was not a traveller at all, would the opinions be different then.

I hope Marzipan and Hope Pastures can help. Whoever owns it the horse deserves some care.
 
The guy is very poorly apparantly.
He was collecting scrap metal when the horse spooked, the guy fell off and then got ran over by a car.
Dont know any more other than the police are supossed to be contacting my friend tomorrow to let her know whats happening.
The pony is in a pretty bad way as well, lets hope it all works out for those involved
 
The pony has been seen by a vet and has had medication, he is obviously very sore and will probably feel worse in the morning.
He is in good hands.
 
I am Certainly no fan of the "travelling" Thieving Community but the poor sod has been run over but we dont know the details, perhaps he had done something Stupid, or not we do not know. I thought vets were obligated to look after Animals if they were injured I am Disgusted at them but most vets today are just small animal orientated where the big money can be made coaxing animals along on expensive drugs and treatments when they would be better PTS.
 
I hope its not the guy who I have seen collecting scrap metal in the Guiseley / Yeadon area.

If he is a traveller, he doesn't travel, I've seen him all year round.

The little cob he drives looks very well cared for.
 
Hairy Old Cob said:
I am Certainly no fan of the "travelling" Thieving Community but the poor sod has been run over but we dont know the details, perhaps he had done something Stupid, or not we do not know. I thought vets were obligated to look after Animals if they were injured I am Disgusted at them but most vets today are just small animal orientated where the big money can be made coaxing animals along on expensive drugs and treatments when they would be better PTS.
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Bravo!! Well said!!

Here's hopeing for all the best for the poor guy and his pony.
 
yes i was horrified when i heard this, thank god my friend cared enough to give them her card details so the poor pony could be treated.
Apparantly as soon a they said it was a gypsy cob they didnt want to know. :-/
discusting !
 
Perhaps one of the problems is that the horse vets we all use are not actually in Leeds. Certainly at our side of Leeds.

We use Aireworth in Keighley and I know other people around use those in Wetherby, Halifax, York and other places. Cant actually think of a practice in Leeds who specialise in them.
 
I attended a conference on emergency treatment of horses at which there were vets and firebrigade present. It was made very clear that British Equine Veterinary Association members will always attend an injured animal in a public place and BEVA has funds to ensure the vet is not out of pocket should an owner not be identified. We were assured that all police forces have this information (including a list of vets) as part of their emergency procedures for dealing with horse related accidents. This arrangement is meant to avoid delays resulting in unecessary suffering.

This confirms my suspicions that control rooms are insufficently trained in this area and sometimes the poor officer attending is left guessing what best to do.

I hope this ends well for both human and equine - whatever their background.
 
ticobay831 said:
yes i was horrified when i heard this, thank god my friend cared enough to give them her card details so the poor pony could be treated.
Apparantly as soon a they said it was a gypsy cob they didnt want to know. :-/
discusting !
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Your friend needs to find out from the police if they will be prosecuting the driver who hit the owner after he fell from the cart, were they driving too close etc and were they the cause of the horse bolting/spooking. It could be that, if it is the only way, she would be able to claim back anything the vets may charge from the drivers insurance if he was at fault. I still cannot believe that the police can't track down a horse vet, surely they are prepared for things like this, it is wrong that they allow an innocent passer by to pick up the bill for this!
 
Dolcé;10713222 said:
Your friend needs to find out from the police if they will be prosecuting the driver who hit the owner after he fell from the cart, were they driving too close etc and were they the cause of the horse bolting/spooking. It could be that, if it is the only way, she would be able to claim back anything the vets may charge from the drivers insurance if he was at fault. I still cannot believe that the police can't track down a horse vet, surely they are prepared for things like this, it is wrong that they allow an innocent passer by to pick up the bill for this!
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After Marzipan spent an evening with two strays in Wortley last week, I'm sure the police in Leeds have no idea how to deal with horses. She said the poor officers they sent to deal with it didn't have a clue. Perhaps someone like Hope Pastures need to meet with them, I'll suggest it to Marzipan, as if she doesn't have enough to do :rolleyes:
 
Apparantly the police havent got any facilities for this kind of thing at all and asked my friend if she knew of any rescue or group that could help if it was to happen again.
Terrible really :-/
 
They don't need facilities, they have contacts to collect stray horses (I know the guy they use on a regular basis, they put the contract out for bids every 3 years or so) and they are then taken to safety. The issue for me is the lack of emergency treatment for the horse and relying on a member of the public having to give credit card details before they will treat an animal. I know this pony wasn't a stray but it needed to be removed to safety and to be seen by a vet, this has implications for any of us who ride out on the roads. I don't like the thought that if I was injured along with my horse there is nothing in place to care for my horse and ensure it receives treatment. It looks to me as though WY Police need some training!
 
OP, please pass on to your friend thanks for helping. We may never know the rights and wrongs of this but am so glad that there are people out there who will put themselves out to help.
Along with several of my friends, I'm one of the passing drivers who have rounded up loose ponies on Gelderd Road and returned them to their owners while artic trucks and cars whizzed past with no-one apparently giving a flying fig... I know it is difficult for people who don't know horses but even flashing on-coming traffic to slow down would help.
I hope this cob recovers - he/she was lucky to have found someone who knew where to go for help. I'm guessing the police would have had to have found someone eventually but your friend probably made his wait for treatment much much shorter.
 
Dolcé;10713302 said:
It looks to me as though WY Police need some training!
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Not just West Yorkshire, when I lived in Skipton North Yorkshire were just as bad.

I dont know how they got my phone number and tied it to owning horses, but it must have been the only one they had.

Every time there was a stray horse they used to ring me and say my horses had escaped.

I fell for it every time, even at 2am when Lou was little and I had to wake her up and put her in the Landy.

They were never mine of course, but who would dare risk not checking, and once you get there you cant leave the horses with a couple of clueless policemen.
 
Hi All

I saw the horse and cart go past my office today, heading quickly towards a busy junction and a red light - amazing it appeared to get across without being hit (although sounds unfortunately like the horse did eventually crash into something). It wasn't until at least 15 mins later that the owner (I assume) hobbled past, head covered in blood, pursued by an ambulance responder and then seconds later a full ambulance - the guy's head was covered in blood but he was clearly refusing to stop for treatment, seemingly in pursuit of the horse.

Hopefully both recover fully from their injuries.
 
Thanks moleskinsmum i will pass it on, im sure when she gets in from work she will join in on the post and let you know the full details, poor girl was 5 hours late for work.. :-/ i am only passing on what ive been told.

Dolce: the police told her they had no facilities/contacts to deal with a situation like this, again i am only passing on what ive been told.
 
Hi I am Ticobay's friend who helped the horse today
I will fill you in ...
First would like to say the horse was in beautiful condidtion and well shod.
The man who owns him takes very good care good care of him ..it was a sad situation and I am NOT going down the route of discussing about travellers..all I care about it this horses welfare.
I have since found out the owner did pick him self up off the road and was frantic to catch up to his horse dispite having very serious injuries.. He only stopped to allow the ambulance to treat him when they could confirm we had his horse and were treating him.

It was a sad situation were we spent about an hour trying to get vet help for his horse.. he was clearly hurting badly and needed attention ... A HUGE THANK YOU to Lesley at Yorkshire Equine Transport who came and picked him up and took him to a stable where the vet came and treated him.
He had been put on some painkillers, Antibiotics and tetanus jab for his cuts.
His shoulder is already quite swollen and he seems to have injured his windpipe we shall assess himm again in the morning ...A very lucky pony !!!!
 
Amazona said:
Hi I am Ticobay's friend who helped the horse today
I will fill you in ...
First would like to say the horse was in beautiful condidtion and well shod.
The man who owns him takes very good care good care of him ..it was a sad situation and I am NOT going down the route of discussing about travellers..all I care about it this horses welfare.
I have since found out the owner did pick him self up off the road and was frantic to catch up to his horse dispite having very serious injuries.. He only stopped to allow the ambulance to treat him when they could confirm we had his horse and were treating him.

It was a sad situation were we spent about an hour trying to get vet help for his horse.. he was clearly hurting badly and needed attention ... A HUGE THANK YOU to Lesley at Yorkshire Equine Transport who came and picked him up and took him to a stable where the vet came and treated him.
He had been put on some painkillers, Antibiotics and tetanus jab for his cuts.
His shoulder is already quite swollen and he seems to have injured his windpipe we shall assess himm again in the morning ...A very lucky pony !!!!
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Well done you for your efforts Amazona, please keep us updated on horse and owner's recovery if you can. I'm sure owner was desperate to find out what had happened to his horse, must have been a horrifying experience for him. Hope his injuries are not too serious either - especially as his head from what another poster put :( Hope the horse's windpipe is OK and shoulder is just swelling and nothing worse.
 
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