Horse attacking people - biting, dragging while biting and attempting to kick. HELP!

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6 y/o OTTB Gelding, I had him fresh off the track June 2023, he was let down before having a month of professional schooling while I was away in the States late October. On returning home his work was kept up with and he showed a preference for being turned out 24/7, access to shelter at all times. Unfortunately seemingly overnight early December he developed a severe case of rain rot, vet called the second I saw it and a treatment plan of; Bute, Hibi scrub washes, drying, grooming and antibiotics got it sorted however this is where the problem started. Understandably the washes were uncomfortable as was the grooming to help remove the old scabs etc. On occasion his rear legs would come up and it was a clear ‘OUCH THAT HURT’ reaction, so I’d proceed to stay where I was but not touch the area causing the pain anymore that day, pat him elsewhere and continue grooming unaffected areas - my thinking was if I move away and stop every time a leg is raised he’ll learn that’s a good way to get what he wants. But I made sure never to force him through painful sessions.



He’s since been groomed and ridden no real issues, a distaste for currying over his rump where the worst of the rain rot was but absolutely zero issues with his skin now.



He’s had 2 months of in at night out during the day with a companion and he’s been excellent, not pushy to handle, happy having rugs changed etc. he’s now turned out 24/7 while it’s dry, anyway this all seemed perfect, until….



3 days ago he was stood unrugged enjoying the sun, I smoothed him and noticed a wad of loose hair bunched at his flank (completely loose) I thought I’d do him a favour and take it off him, as I said it wasn’t attached not even by a single hair - HE DIDN’T JUST RAISE A LEG OR TWITCH HE FULLY AIMED AND LASHED OUT AT ME WITH TWO SWIFT SIDE SWIPES. He missed but the intention was clear. I hadn’t shocked him, he was aware of my presence. Not normal behaviour for him.



Yesterday. Yesterday was UNREAL. Same old routine, fed in the morning out in the paddock, companion keeps her distance, Quick Look over for cuts etc then I leave until the evening checks. Evenings are when he gets more fuss as time allows and he generally gets a good scratch/pat and small groom. Not yesterday. He approached with his usual eager walk, approached me and didn’t flinch as I smoothed his forehead, ran my hand along his neck and over his back, SUDDENLY THE BACK LEG CAME UP AND OUT TOWARD ME. Okay, I’ll go back to his head and he was happy with that with that THE BEAST WAS UNLEASHED - BACK LEG COMING FORWARD TOWARD ME, EARS FLAT TO HIS NECK, HE BIT AND WOULD NOT LET GO OF MY BACKSIDE (THANK GOD I TURNED AS HE WAS GOING FOR MY BONEY SHOULDER), WHILE HOLDING ONTO MY BACKSIDE AND BREAKING THE SKIN HE WAS STRIKING OUT REPEATEDLY WITH HIS FORELEGS. He backed off almost as quickly as he began. My husband watched it all play out and he said there were no warning signs other than the first rear leg. He was relaxed directly before, happy and wanting a fuss. I’ve been around horses all my life if ears go back I know to move, as I did with the rear leg warning.



What an earth do I do to work with this. His feed is minimal and all gut friendly for ulcer prone horses due to him being an ex racer that’s what all my OTTBs are on unless they require more. He’s a good doer so he’s simply having a handful and some linseed for coat/skin condition. His feed hasn’t changed. He’s on grass 24/7, if in he has 2x 12kg haynets at differing heights so he can mooch around for food and they never run out. He’s happy on the lunge, great under saddle, farrier 2 weeks ago, dental 5 weeks ago, zero signs of lameness or other health concerns even his skin what I managed to feel in those few seconds felt fine, just suddenly freaking out being touched.



HOW, HOW ON EARTH DO I WORK WITH THIS?! I have an almost 3 year old son who’s allowed nowhere near this horse now and likely won’t be again because he’ll never be able to be trusted around my child after yesterday’s outburst. Thankfully it’s my own yard so my family have been made aware not to enter his paddock/stall.



Someone please offer some advice, if this is residual tension/fear from the rain rot discomfort how do I go about letting him know the pain has gone, we aren’t there to cause pain, I’m never there to hurt/stress/upset him. Desperately need advice with this.
 

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6 y/o OTTB Gelding, I had him fresh off the track June 2023, he was let down before having a month of professional schooling while I was away in the States late October. On returning home his work was kept up with and he showed a preference for being turned out 24/7, access to shelter at all times. Unfortunately seemingly overnight early December he developed a severe case of rain rot, vet called the second I saw it and a treatment plan of; Bute, Hibi scrub washes, drying, grooming and antibiotics got it sorted however this is where the problem started. Understandably the washes were uncomfortable as was the grooming to help remove the old scabs etc. On occasion his rear legs would come up and it was a clear ‘OUCH THAT HURT’ reaction, so I’d proceed to stay where I was but not touch the area causing the pain anymore that day, pat him elsewhere and continue grooming unaffected areas - my thinking was if I move away and stop every time a leg is raised he’ll learn that’s a good way to get what he wants. But I made sure never to force him through painful sessions.



He’s since been groomed and ridden no real issues, a distaste for currying over his rump where the worst of the rain rot was but absolutely zero issues with his skin now.



He’s had 2 months of in at night out during the day with a companion and he’s been excellent, not pushy to handle, happy having rugs changed etc. he’s now turned out 24/7 while it’s dry, anyway this all seemed perfect, until….



3 days ago he was stood unrugged enjoying the sun, I smoothed him and noticed a wad of loose hair bunched at his flank (completely loose) I thought I’d do him a favour and take it off him, as I said it wasn’t attached not even by a single hair - HE DIDN’T JUST RAISE A LEG OR TWITCH HE FULLY AIMED AND LASHED OUT AT ME WITH TWO SWIFT SIDE SWIPES. He missed but the intention was clear. I hadn’t shocked him, he was aware of my presence. Not normal behaviour for him.



Yesterday. Yesterday was UNREAL. Same old routine, fed in the morning out in the paddock, companion keeps her distance, Quick Look over for cuts etc then I leave until the evening checks. Evenings are when he gets more fuss as time allows and he generally gets a good scratch/pat and small groom. Not yesterday. He approached with his usual eager walk, approached me and didn’t flinch as I smoothed his forehead, ran my hand along his neck and over his back, SUDDENLY THE BACK LEG CAME UP AND OUT TOWARD ME. Okay, I’ll go back to his head and he was happy with that with that THE BEAST WAS UNLEASHED - BACK LEG COMING FORWARD TOWARD ME, EARS FLAT TO HIS NECK, HE BIT AND WOULD NOT LET GO OF MY BACKSIDE (THANK GOD I TURNED AS HE WAS GOING FOR MY BONEY SHOULDER), WHILE HOLDING ONTO MY BACKSIDE AND BREAKING THE SKIN HE WAS STRIKING OUT REPEATEDLY WITH HIS FORELEGS. He backed off almost as quickly as he began. My husband watched it all play out and he said there were no warning signs other than the first rear leg. He was relaxed directly before, happy and wanting a fuss. I’ve been around horses all my life if ears go back I know to move, as I did with the rear leg warning.



What an earth do I do to work with this. His feed is minimal and all gut friendly for ulcer prone horses due to him being an ex racer that’s what all my OTTBs are on unless they require more. He’s a good doer so he’s simply having a handful and some linseed for coat/skin condition. His feed hasn’t changed. He’s on grass 24/7, if in he has 2x 12kg haynets at differing heights so he can mooch around for food and they never run out. He’s happy on the lunge, great under saddle, farrier 2 weeks ago, dental 5 weeks ago, zero signs of lameness or other health concerns even his skin what I managed to feel in those few seconds felt fine, just suddenly freaking out being touched.



HOW, HOW ON EARTH DO I WORK WITH THIS?! I have an almost 3 year old son who’s allowed nowhere near this horse now and likely won’t be again because he’ll never be able to be trusted around my child after yesterday’s outburst. Thankfully it’s my own yard so my family have been made aware not to enter his paddock/stall.



Someone please offer some advice, if this is residual tension/fear from the rain rot discomfort how do I go about letting him know the pain has gone, we aren’t there to cause pain, I’m never there to hurt/stress/upset him. Desperately need advice with this.
I'm really sorry to hear this. I don't have any advice to offer but I just wanted to say I hope you are OK. In addition to the pain of the bite, it feels very personal and upsetting when a horse does this. You are clearly doing a great job looking him.
 

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Sounds like it could be ulcers so definitely get a vet.

I can't believe that a vet encouraged grooming a horse with rain scald, it's incredibly sore and would be just like trying to rip scabs from injuries that are just not ready, so I'm not really surprised he doesn't want to be touched and probably pulling at hair in the field was probably just a step too far and tipped him over the edge.
 

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I have heard of something similar once before on a horse which had had a lot of antibiotics for an infection. As I recollect it was a long time after he was "well" before he would consent to be touched. His reaction was as if just touching him caused him pain. This was a long, long, time ago on a now dead forum so I can't point you to it, I'm afraid.

My first thought is ulcers brought on by the antibiotics. The second would be the kind of reaction above, but you need a vet for sure.

As a matter of interest, what colour is he?
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I have owned a couple of TB's and they are great anticipators of pain, even when what ever has happened has been resolved. One had a huge golf ball sized lunp on his teeth, just build up, and the amount of sedation needed was huge, he was obviously had this problem for ages and you could not touch his head at all.
He shouldn't be doing this, but they came be sometimes be the drama queens of the horse world,ours could rock the 7.5 tonne lorry, and throw himself around a stable so you thought he could have colic, if he thought he was been left.

I was cornered attacked out of the blue by a pony, and I know how upsetting it is, especially when you are trying your best for them.
 

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I, too, am surprised at the treatment your vet prescribed. Hibiscrub is very painful on raw skin. I would have expected application of ant-fungal cream rather than repeated washing.
I would get a vet (probably a different one) to scope for ulcers.
I agree but I've seen the same advice before on a chestnut with very sensitive skin. He wasn't the nicest pre treatment but the yard staff refused to handle him once the hibiscrub started - didn't help his owner used a lot of it.
 

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I agree but I've seen the same advice before on a chestnut with very sensitive skin. He wasn't the nicest pre treatment but the yard staff refused to handle him once the hibiscrub started - didn't help his owner used a lot of it.
I do sometimes wonder if the scientists remember that there is a sentient being on the receiving end of the treatment they advise!
 

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Vet check - I'd rule out ulcers for starters as this behaviour has come out of the blue. Vet should be able to sedate and check him over thoroughly in case there's something else causing him to lash out.

Hope you're ok. I've caught some bites in the past and it's not nice.
Thank you, definitely going to get him scoped for ulcers and at least under sedation he can have a real thorough check without getting caught by him again.

Other than my backside currently resembling Kim Kardashian’s I’m all good. X
 

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6 y/o OTTB Gelding, I had him fresh off the track June 2023, he was let down before having a month of professional schooling while I was away in the States late October. On returning home his work was kept up with and he showed a preference for being turned out 24/7, access to shelter at all times. Unfortunately seemingly overnight early December he developed a severe case of rain rot, vet called the second I saw it and a treatment plan of; Bute, Hibi scrub washes, drying, grooming and antibiotics got it sorted however this is where the problem started. Understandably the washes were uncomfortable as was the grooming to help remove the old scabs etc. On occasion his rear legs would come up and it was a clear ‘OUCH THAT HURT’ reaction, so I’d proceed to stay where I was but not touch the area causing the pain anymore that day, pat him elsewhere and continue grooming unaffected areas - my thinking was if I move away and stop every time a leg is raised he’ll learn that’s a good way to get what he wants. But I made sure never to force him through painful sessions.



He’s since been groomed and ridden no real issues, a distaste for currying over his rump where the worst of the rain rot was but absolutely zero issues with his skin now.



He’s had 2 months of in at night out during the day with a companion and he’s been excellent, not pushy to handle, happy having rugs changed etc. he’s now turned out 24/7 while it’s dry, anyway this all seemed perfect, until….



3 days ago he was stood unrugged enjoying the sun, I smoothed him and noticed a wad of loose hair bunched at his flank (completely loose) I thought I’d do him a favour and take it off him, as I said it wasn’t attached not even by a single hair - HE DIDN’T JUST RAISE A LEG OR TWITCH HE FULLY AIMED AND LASHED OUT AT ME WITH TWO SWIFT SIDE SWIPES. He missed but the intention was clear. I hadn’t shocked him, he was aware of my presence. Not normal behaviour for him.



Yesterday. Yesterday was UNREAL. Same old routine, fed in the morning out in the paddock, companion keeps her distance, Quick Look over for cuts etc then I leave until the evening checks. Evenings are when he gets more fuss as time allows and he generally gets a good scratch/pat and small groom. Not yesterday. He approached with his usual eager walk, approached me and didn’t flinch as I smoothed his forehead, ran my hand along his neck and over his back, SUDDENLY THE BACK LEG CAME UP AND OUT TOWARD ME. Okay, I’ll go back to his head and he was happy with that with that THE BEAST WAS UNLEASHED - BACK LEG COMING FORWARD TOWARD ME, EARS FLAT TO HIS NECK, HE BIT AND WOULD NOT LET GO OF MY BACKSIDE (THANK GOD I TURNED AS HE WAS GOING FOR MY BONEY SHOULDER), WHILE HOLDING ONTO MY BACKSIDE AND BREAKING THE SKIN HE WAS STRIKING OUT REPEATEDLY WITH HIS FORELEGS. He backed off almost as quickly as he began. My husband watched it all play out and he said there were no warning signs other than the first rear leg. He was relaxed directly before, happy and wanting a fuss. I’ve been around horses all my life if ears go back I know to move, as I did with the rear leg warning.



What an earth do I do to work with this. His feed is minimal and all gut friendly for ulcer prone horses due to him being an ex racer that’s what all my OTTBs are on unless they require more. He’s a good doer so he’s simply having a handful and some linseed for coat/skin condition. His feed hasn’t changed. He’s on grass 24/7, if in he has 2x 12kg haynets at differing heights so he can mooch around for food and they never run out. He’s happy on the lunge, great under saddle, farrier 2 weeks ago, dental 5 weeks ago, zero signs of lameness or other health concerns even his skin what I managed to feel in those few seconds felt fine, just suddenly freaking out being touched.



HOW, HOW ON EARTH DO I WORK WITH THIS?! I have an almost 3 year old son who’s allowed nowhere near this horse now and likely won’t be again because he’ll never be able to be trusted around my child after yesterday’s outburst. Thankfully it’s my own yard so my family have been made aware not to enter his paddock/stall.



Someone please offer some advice, if this is residual tension/fear from the rain rot discomfort how do I go about letting him know the pain has gone, we aren’t there to cause pain, I’m never there to hurt/stress/upset him. Desperately need advice with this.
Thank you to everyone for all of the responses!

He’s getting scoped for ulcers later this week. The vets who gave the advice for Hibi Scrub etc are actually the only equine veterinary specialists around here so feel almost obliged to go along with their advice. Thankfully I know for next time HiBi and grooming aren’t the way to go!

I’m gutted I followed the advice but honestly thought it was one of those, ‘cruel to be kind’ things.

I have checked him over in the paddock both at feeding time and when just stood as he was yesterday. I do sense he’s got some food aggression so he’s not touched while eating. If anyone has any tips for dealing with food aggression in case this is an issue alongside potential ulcers etc. I’d love to work through his problems medical or behavioural instead of vowing to always feed from the other side of a door/fence/gate.

Ever so grateful for the responses.
 

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I have heard of something similar once before on a horse which had had a lot of antibiotics for an infection. As I recollect it was a long time after he was "well" before he would consent to be touched. His reaction was as if just touching him caused him pain. This was a long, long, time ago on a now dead forum so I can't point you to it, I'm afraid.

My first thought is ulcers brought on by the antibiotics. The second would be the kind of reaction above, but you need a vet for sure.

As a matter of interest, what colour is he?
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He’s a bright bay. Getting scoped this week, thank you x
 

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I'm really sorry to hear this. I don't have any advice to offer but I just wanted to say I hope you are OK. In addition to the pain of the bite, it feels very personal and upsetting when a horse does this. You are clearly doing a great job looking him.
Thank you so much! He’s one of 12 and honestly has everything he could ever wish for. It definitely feels very personal indeed. Thankfully the pain isn’t too bad though I don’t see myself doing my usual exercise bike activities for a few days, with a rear end rivaling that of the Kardashians a chilled out day or two is definitely on the cards!
 

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I'm reminded of this old thread, so I'm just posting you a link in case you find something in it that's useful to you.

 

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. I do sense he’s got some food aggression so he’s not touched while eating. If anyone has any tips for dealing with food aggression
I have food aggression and if anyone wanted to fiddle with me while I was eating I’d be rude too. I’ve never felt the need to make an animal accept being handled while eating short food.
I hope the scoping goes well.
 

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One of ours is much happier if things like rugging are done while he is eating - it keeps him occupied.

Saying that, a previous horse bit me right on the back of the thigh when I did up his rug while he was eating. It was very painful so I feel for you.
 

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I’m not sure there’s many reasons to bother a horse when it’s eating tbh.
Generally it’s more out of necessity, we don’t live at the stables we live some miles away and we have a young and particularly unwell son. 7-7 I’m on my own with my son (no he’s never in the stable with any of the horses even his ponies are brought out and cross tied before he’s involved) at the stables so sometimes it comes down to there not being enough hours in the day to let them pick at hard feed untouched/unbothered and wait along with the fact there are children and children’s ponies near-by, I don’t feel the need to handle them when feeding unless absolutely necessary but also wouldn’t wish a child snooping to get caught in the cross fire either. I don’t wish my horses be rude/dangerous at feeding time. The same way my dogs are handled at feeding time to ensure they don’t snap at my child or one another if they happen to be in close proximity though this is avoided at all costs, manners don’t go out the window when there is food about.

Old fashioned maybe just trying to work through issues to potentially avoid serious situations.
 

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Get a vet check but also consider a herd turnout. He’s 6 and has one companion who doesn’t interact with him. he probably hasn’t been taught to be nice by a decent herd and is using you as his social guinea pig.
^^^ This.

Can just sense your sheer frustration with this OP; I had a mare who had trigeminal nerve headshaking and she started being uncharacteristically aggressive, not just to other herd members but also humans. Sadly I had to make a difficult decision as the headshaking wasn't gonna get any better and her behaviour was becoming dangerous.

I'd get as many vet checks done as can be achieved within your budget (which won't be cheap, sorry), and obviously as safely as possible if he does respond well to sedation (mine doesn't, gets very aggressive with it). Then......... if you can find some decent herd turnout I'd be inclined to chuck him out for the summer and see how he comes back after a few months.

Hopefully he will come back good. Thinking of you, its a difficult one.
 

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Yes to the aggressive around food - although I've had her 9 years now and it's not really an issue any more. She was a hand reared foal and I was given her just before her 5th birthday because she was going to be shot for her behaviour.

If you think of it as anxiety over food instead of aggression it helps create a mental shift in the human heads I find.

I didn't interrupt her while she was eating (I still have the scar from making that mistake) but it took time. If she was being fed in her stable she was left to it but in the field it was headcollar and lead rope to prevent her launching herself at every other horse / human around. I never put hay out while she was loose and I had a blanket ban on any children going in the field.

Nowadays you can walk up to her with a bucket of food and she's generally fine but that's 9 years of consistently proving to her the food isn't going to vanish!
 

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^^^ This.

Can just sense your sheer frustration with this OP; I had a mare who had trigeminal nerve headshaking and she started being uncharacteristically aggressive, not just to other herd members but also humans. Sadly I had to make a difficult decision as the headshaking wasn't gonna get any better and her behaviour was becoming dangerous.

I'd get as many vet checks done as can be achieved within your budget (which won't be cheap, sorry), and obviously as safely as possible if he does respond well to sedation (mine doesn't, gets very aggressive with it). Then......... if you can find some decent herd turnout I'd be inclined to chuck him out for the summer and see how he comes back after a few months.

Hopefully he will come back good. Thinking of you, its a difficult one.
Thank you so much, he’s getting scoped later in the week and he’ll be out with the herd instead of just a companion should all be okay. Generally he’s been with the companion only as they have the same routine so there is no disturbance for the others however I think if negative for ulcers etc he needs some tough love.

Thank you x
 

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Thank you to everyone for all of the responses!

He’s getting scoped for ulcers later this week. The vets who gave the advice for Hibi Scrub etc are actually the only equine veterinary specialists around here so feel almost obliged to go along with their advice. Thankfully I know for next time HiBi and grooming aren’t the way to go!

I’m gutted I followed the advice but honestly thought it was one of those, ‘cruel to be kind’ things.

I have checked him over in the paddock both at feeding time and when just stood as he was yesterday. I do sense he’s got some food aggression so he’s not touched while eating. If anyone has any tips for dealing with food aggression in case this is an issue alongside potential ulcers etc. I’d love to work through his problems medical or behavioural instead of vowing to always feed from the other side of a door/fence/gate.

Ever so grateful for the responses.
Its really an old fashioned treatment, we used to use ITU as hand wash and it could make your hands raw in a couple of day, and you would never use it on wounds.

Its a bit like ringworm, which is fungal so as long as you can dry the area out it will clear up by its self. This winter has been warm and wet sometimes and if the horse came of the track if probabely doesn't have enough on its skin and coat to prevent water getting to the skin. Sometimes dirt and grease is good.
If you are going to try and pick the scabs off I would try a mild soap, allow to dry and perhaps seal it from the moisture with something like this.
Don't use anything with an 'antiseptic' it usually stings.

I always think vets have a rose tinted idea of what actually works in real life, in a practice they would sedate the horse if thought they were going to get kicked, as my regular vet say,'thats what Ketamine is for'. Do what keeps you safe, you are not replacable.
If it was mine I would turn it out in the sun with no rugs as let nature have a go at clearing it up.
 

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Thank you so much, he’s getting scoped later in the week and he’ll be out with the herd instead of just a companion should all be okay. Generally he’s been with the companion only as they have the same routine so there is no disturbance for the others however I think if negative for ulcers etc he needs some tough love.

Thank you x
^^ Hope you can sort this; ohh so often people rush off to consult a Behaviourist, a "Communicator" and god-knows-who-else, when a month's turnout with a dominant mare would do far more good. That said however, you may find that a sensitive professional with a fresh set of eyes might be able to pinpoint something if all else fails.
 

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The same way my dogs are handled at feeding time to ensure they don’t snap at my child

Excuse me for butting in here. Please do not do that.

Please leave your dogs to eat in peace and teach your children to do the same.

Bothering a dog when it is eating could create a resource guarding problem.
 
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Generally it’s more out of necessity, we don’t live at the stables we live some miles away and we have a young and particularly unwell son. 7-7 I’m on my own with my son (no he’s never in the stable with any of the horses even his ponies are brought out and cross tied before he’s involved) at the stables so sometimes it comes down to there not being enough hours in the day to let them pick at hard feed untouched/unbothered and wait along with the fact there are children and children’s ponies near-by, I don’t feel the need to handle them when feeding unless absolutely necessary but also wouldn’t wish a child snooping to get caught in the cross fire either. I don’t wish my horses be rude/dangerous at feeding time. The same way my dogs are handled at feeding time to ensure they don’t snap at my child or one another if they happen to be in close proximity though this is avoided at all costs, manners don’t go out the window when there is food about.

Old fashioned maybe just trying to work through issues to potentially avoid serious situations.
I appreciate you are time precious with the horses but I am as old fashioned as they come and have never tormented animals while they eat.
 

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Thank you to everyone for all of the responses!

He’s getting scoped for ulcers later this week. The vets who gave the advice for Hibi Scrub etc are actually the only equine veterinary specialists around here so feel almost obliged to go along with their advice. Thankfully I know for next time HiBi and grooming aren’t the way to go!

I’m gutted I followed the advice but honestly thought it was one of those, ‘cruel to be kind’ things.

I have checked him over in the paddock both at feeding time and when just stood as he was yesterday. I do sense he’s got some food aggression so he’s not touched while eating. If anyone has any tips for dealing with food aggression in case this is an issue alongside potential ulcers etc. I’d love to work through his problems medical or behavioural instead of vowing to always feed from the other side of a door/fence/gate.

Ever so grateful for the responses.
I had a mare who was sold to me as food aggressive and the reasons explained - it was linked to a previous home where she was the bottom of the pecking order and just didn't get enough. We were at livery then and fortunately therecwas a walkway behind the loose-boxes with wire mesh separating horses and people. The hay went in a manger at the bottom of the mesh, so I could stand behind her hay while she ate and get her used to my presence. I never took any food into the stable while she was in, for safety. In summer she was fed from a bucket over the field wall, if she wanted the feed, she had to put up with my holding the bucket.
She gradually forgot that she had a problem with people over food. When we swapped to a different stable, the set up was different but it didn't matter by then she had forgotten all about it. She even brought mouthfuls of hay to show me when she came in for the first winter overnight with a full manger of hay. It just took time and consistency - and never letting her run out of hay.
 
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