Horse Communicator

Ok, I'm a former sceptic. But I'm fairly open minded so decided to try it.

I was told my horse came from Ireland, it had never been asked and he doesn't have an obvious Irish name. She told me he's the picture of health but that he wasn't when I got him. She told me he's a fidget and wont stand still which is also true, and that he has an old injury to his offside hind but he wanted me to know it doesnt affect him. He also spoke about the mare and foal I lost and that I had to sell a good horse (which was to pay for the vet bill). There were lots of other things but I laughed and cried on the phone, and his character came across 100%, even if she had managed to find out somehow, all the other information, there is no way he'd have come across like he did and say word for word strange things I say to him.

Happily though, there's nothing wrong with him physically or mentally, which is quite a surprise given all that he and we went through in the first few months I had him.
 
Please tell me you are not comparing religion with telepathic animal readings? There is one important difference (apart from all the other obvious differences) they don't charge you for religion. Yes they ask for a donation but the only people who do want money are the cults and con men who get donations through healing and claiming to be able to know details from people's lives hmmmmm now where have I heard that before?
 
Oh and by the way, for those that don't believe in 'spritual' things, when I was 5/6 years old, I was on a bus on a tour of york, i started talking about tramlines and trees at one part and in another area I was talking about a moat. My aunti's husband worked at the museum and enquired as york was never a moat city, at the time I had been talking about, that particular part of the moat flooded so there was water in it, and the other place where I'd talked about trams there was a big tram interchange. How the hell did I know those things when I was 5?!!
 
horsegirl said:
Please tell me you are not comparing religion with telepathic animal readings? There is one important difference (apart from all the other obvious differences) they don't charge you for religion. Yes they ask for a donation but the only people who do want money are the cults and con men who get donations through healing and claiming to be able to know details from people's lives hmmmmm now where have I heard that before?
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No we were saying that sometimes you can believe in things that cant be proven by science.

And yes certain religions do ask that you "donate" a certain amount of your wealth each year so that you will still be able to get into the next world without too much of a struggle.
 
Navalgem said:
Ok, I'm a former sceptic. But I'm fairly open minded so decided to try it.

I was told my horse came from Ireland, it had never been asked and he doesn't have an obvious Irish name. A lot are irish descent, same could be said of my horse and if they aren't the breed could be which would be enough for someone who wanted to believe

She told me he's the picture of health but that he wasn't when I got him. Again applies to a lot of horses. Many people take pride in the fact that their horse is in better condition that when they got him

She told me he's a fidget and wont stand still which is also true, and that he has an old injury to his offside hind but he wanted me to know it doesnt affect him. Again both could apply to my horse

He also spoke about the mare and foal I lost - spoke about specifically of just mentioned something vague about losing a horse?

and that I had to sell a good horse (which was to pay for the vet bill). who hasn't?

There were lots of other things but I laughed and cried on the phone, and his character came across 100%, even if she had managed to find out somehow, all the other information, there is no way he'd have come across like he did and say word for word strange things I say to him. such as?

Happily though, there's nothing wrong with him physically or mentally, which is quite a surprise given all that he and we went through in the first few months I had him.
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see my comments in bold
 
Navalgem said:
Oh and by the way, for those that don't believe in 'spritual' things, when I was 5/6 years old, I was on a bus on a tour of york, i started talking about tramlines and trees at one part and in another area I was talking about a moat. My aunti's husband worked at the museum and enquired as york was never a moat city, at the time I had been talking about, that particular part of the moat flooded so there was water in it, and the other place where I'd talked about trams there was a big tram interchange. How the hell did I know those things when I was 5?!!
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Dear god, it's irrefutable evidence! Do you want to tell Dawkins or shall I!? I don't know how he'll react to the news...
 
horsegirl said:
Please tell me you are not comparing religion with telepathic animal readings? There is one important difference (apart from all the other obvious differences) they don't charge you for religion. Yes they ask for a donation but the only people who do want money are the cults and con men who get donations through healing and claiming to be able to know details from people's lives hmmmmm now where have I heard that before?
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The lady that did my dogs readings didn't charge. And lets not get into it too deeply (cos it's friday and I'm off home soon) but you really don't beleive money and religion aren't very very good bed partners??
 
I have seen people offering to give animal readings by phone or email from a photo of an animal that's not even still ALIVE! I need to get in on this act and get some of this money. Who would like me to have a go?
Oh and as I said to texas whatever on here I have discovered that my saliva cures all complaints so if you send me £1000 I will send you a jug full just rub it on twice a day and you will be cured. Obviously I can't provide any back up data but sometimes you just have to believe what can't be proved.

Anyone? anyone?
 
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Allover said:
Whereas i feel sorry for those who are so closed minded to practices that have been around for centuries that they feel it is necessary to condemn and try to humiliate people that have an open mind.
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I completry agree. I have left some yards that made it quite clear on what they think on animal commcation actually lets say bullying as that's what happeren. now I am a much stronger person now so won't take anymore of thoso's negavite sp?? towards what I do with my horse!! As it's me paying for it.

I see the big difference in him every day and dearly love him in which I didnt really when I first got him!!
 
horsegirl said:
I don't believe in it, I think it is all a big con. Usually the info they give is non specific enough to cover a lot of horses (what horse has never had back or leg pain?) and the bits that are wrong are just glossed over because the person really wants to believe. There used to be one on here Texas something or other and I asked her to tell me something that she could only have got from my horse. The name of a field mate for example. She started saying "I dont have to prove anything, you tell me the name of one of my horse's field mates" and other nonsense like this.

Can anyone who has had it done say they were given specific information that could not have been got in any other way? I mean names/places not vague descriptions
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Yes................ I lost a horse to Colic and had a tough time getting over it. The communicator told me that Tia my current horse (who was about when Molly was alive) knows how good Molly was and she is trying to be as good. She also mentioned words I've used if you read my earlier post...........there is no way they where guesses. She also give me the figure I bought her for.



I'm all for free speech and everyone entitled to their opnion, but the title says Horse Communicator if you think it's a con then don't bother reading about us suckers that believe we aren't doing the world any harm, and at £35 or there abouts it's not going to make anyone bankrupt. It's not coming out of your pocket so why should you care if we're wasting our money on meaningless things. £35 would only be a drip in the ocean to a smoker yet I don't preach to them and the harmful side affects at least horse communicators won't give us cancer!! It's a feel good thing and gives you reasurrance that your doing right by your horse/ dog. There are plenty of posts where I think someone is off their trolley or I don't agree but I move on and find something I'm interested in. There is enough crap in this world without getting it from people on a forum. So as politely as I can Bog off and take your cynicism somewhere else.
 
Horses don't speak english, perhaps the odd word/phrase like walk, trot, back up, want a caaaarroooottt??, you're being an absolute shitbag today... etc...

I just don't understand people who believe this, simply for that reason. And a horse doesn't have a wide enough vocab to tell someone about how their day has been, and about all the things that bother them.
 
My dog doesn't speak English but I know when he's in pain, when he's hungry when he wants a pee...communication comes in many forms. My grandfather forgot how to speak English before he died..didn't stop me communicating with him perfectly well even though we were speaking different languages.
 
And how exactly is believing in God different from animal telepathy? I can't see much of a difference, except I find animal telepathy easier to believe in!
 
horsegirl said:
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A lot are irish descent, same could be said of my horse and if they aren't the breed could be which would be enough for someone who wanted to believe

Ok she said he came from Ireland last year, which he did. He also said he was in a field full of heavyish horses with long manes. He and his mum were the only different ones. Weird don't you think as he's a warmblood and rather fine?

Again applies to a lot of horses. Many people take pride in the fact that their horse is in better condition that when they got him

True but he was at deaths door.

Again both could apply to my horse

Well she could have got the wrong leg or area - it's a fair guess to make it so right. She said it was the offside hind at the bottom of the fetlock it looks lumpy. The photo I sent has his hind legs obscured by jump wings and is of his nearside. The fidget bit I'll agree does apply to many horses.

spoke about specifically of just mentioned something vague about losing a horse?
Said I lost a mare and her filly foal I named faith 3 days later, there was something internally wrong with the mare. She got a twisted gut 3 days before she was due to foal. The filly I named faith died 3 days later. He also said Gem was grey and we jumped up to 1m competatively.

who hasn't?
quite a few people on my yard actually but agree this could also apply to many people.

such as?
The first thing I do when I walk on the yard is call him 'Bobbles', and when he spooks out hacking I tell him "don't be so stupid, it's not going to eat you" or "C'mon Bob it's smaller than you, what are you so scared of" he also said he doesn't like me calling him Big Boy, he want's to be called Big Man rather than big boy cause he's grown up. He also said he likes being roughed up and scratched, I brush his coat the wrong way and itch him all over before brushing it back flat. Let me guess, everyone does this?
 
ok so someone put their necks on the line, do a reading that the owner knows from birth to the present. Convince us non-believers.
 
jsr said:
My dog doesn't speak English but I know when he's in pain, when he's hungry when he wants a pee...communication comes in many forms. My grandfather forgot how to speak English before he died..didn't stop me communicating with him perfectly well even though we were speaking different languages.
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I'm talking about the more in-depth things like a horse explaining that he doesn't like to be called something, or that he's not keen on a certain person, or he was a bit bored yesterday or "he hopes that you're okay" or the horse in the sky that's "doing alright"
The bits that couldn't be indicated by a facial expression or sniffing around for food.
I cannot get my head around it, or how people can believe it.
 
Dobby said:
You can't just say it was spirits or something and then tell everyone else to prove it's not. It's up to you to prove what you are suggesting, not defy anyone else to disprove it...
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I'm not asking you to disprove it, only what your ideas are of what else it would be. I can't prove it, its what was in my head but I did prove (or my mum did) that the facts are true. I take it you thing psychology isn't a science then, as a lot of whats thought/discussed reasoned can't actually be measured in itself, only by other things.......
 
Does anyone know if people offer the same kind of reading but to give information on a horse you're trying to trace please?
 
Can you please explain it to be how then? HOW?

I'm not trying to be "closed minded" at all, if it was all proved to work then, well, that'd be wonderful. but really, how does a horse explain that he's feeling really bad about something, that he's moved from ireland, that he doesn't like his name....... without using the English language? A language that they do not speak.
 
horsegirl said:
I am more than willing to be convinced it is true. So come on animal communicators I throw down a challenge to you, tell me something about my horse that you could not know from HHO or facebook. If you do I guarantee I will pay for a full reading for my horse. If it works what have you got to lose?
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But you're not, are you? I and another user have already provided you with examples of the communicator finding out something really specific about that animal which has a probability of being guessed that is really, really low, and you still think they were either lucky guesses or found out about in the pub :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong, a healthy level of cynicism is a great protector up to a point. However, I think that if doubt vs believing was a scale with full on non-belief as 10, pure blind belief a 1, and an open mind at 5, you'd be a 9, which is making it very difficult to want to work with you - If I were to do a communiction with your horse, it is entirely possible that I make a successful connection but you still wouldn't believe me. :(

I know you're likely to turn that around and say it proves your point, but it seems i'm dammed if I do, dammed if I don't. :rolleyes:

I didn't charge for a long time, doing it to help others, for experience, for pleasure. Now I ask for my fee only if the first few pieces of information I convey to an owner is considered to be accurate for that horse and the owner is happy that a communication has taken place (and usually the rest that follows also confirms this). This is a reasonably common practice, designed to help protect ACers from reputation damage, and customers from being ripped off, so HG perhaps the best way is for you to contact someone who does this but doesn't know who you are on facebook or HHO - that way you are also reducing the likelihood of them researching you that way. In fact, you could go a step further and approach someone with a picture you have never published, and not tell them your and your horse's real names from newly set up email account. :)
 
stargirl88 said:
Can you please explain it to be how then? HOW?

I'm not trying to be "closed minded" at all, if it was all proved to work then, well, that'd be wonderful. but really, how does a horse explain that he's feeling really bad about something, that he's moved from ireland, that he doesn't like his name....... without using the English language? A language that they do not speak.
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I have no idea. There's lots of things I don't know, like how we think and move and are autonomous beings when we're made up of things without a mind... It doesn't mean it's not real if it can't be explained. I didn't believe, but decided to give it a go, you can't condemn what you haven't tried. I've changed my opinion. Everyone else is entitled to theirs, but I won't belittle or condemn them for it.
 
stargirl88 said:
Can you please explain it to be how then? HOW?

I'm not trying to be "closed minded" at all, if it was all proved to work then, well, that'd be wonderful. but really, how does a horse explain that he's feeling really bad about something, that he's moved from ireland, that he doesn't like his name....... without using the English language? A language that they do not speak.
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I don't know 'how' but that's what makes life interesting, if we knew everything wouldn't it be boring? I have a ***** job that I hate I spend my days waiting to go home to my horse and my dogs and having something just a bit strange, shocking, unknown to consider makes that day just a tiny bit more interesting. Jeez if I knew everything and could explain it to you I'd have put this old noggin in the oven years ago. Don't you like things to be a mystery? Guess it's down to having a scientific mind or a imaginative nature, I'm glad I've got my imagination...it takes me away from life sometimes when I need it. I'm glad I don't need proof to appreciate or enjoy something, I'm certainly not a 100% believer and sure there are people out there to rip off but I'm happy to consider there is more to life than pure fact. ;)
 
Dobby said:
I don't believe in god either, not that it's relevant but I'm an athiest and a humanist.

I'm prepared to change my mind too - can someone point me to a scientific study that shows human to animal telepathy is actually possible?
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I'm trying desperately to rack my brains to think of the author of the scientific studies that i know of, ad I can't find them on scholar, and have only seen paper copies of them. Obviously there are 100s of case studies, they're not scientific but there are tons of pieces of anecdotal evidence which point towards the need for further research - just tell me how to make a water tight cynic proof animal communication piece of research - we are actually planning one at the moment but its so hard to get it scientifically valid - hence why there are few scientific studies available so far. Its just SO frustrating, because people demand scientific studies, but its so difficult to design an experiement around this subject which is watertight!

Rupert Sheldrake! Thats the name I was searching for. And somebody Scholes. Put R Sheldrake into Google scholar and many studies of telepathy in human to human and a few animal ones come up.

Studies that I am aware of:

An animal (parrot, I think?) being in one room and ACer in another. AC shown pictures of objects which the parrot had in their vocabulary. Parrot repeated the names of these items in the same order the ACer communicated them to him. It was a randomised, blind whotsited trial.

Dogs knowing when their owner was due home (the hypothesis being that it was telepathically and therefore not related to other cues like the sound of the car or time of the day). That also proved a positive correlation.

Aura photography shows that the colour of a horse and human's energy fields are reasonably stable normally, and change during an animal communication - thus indicating that something is happening in the energy field.
 
Im not really sure what all the fuss is about on this thread. What's so wrong with believing in something? If you dont like it fairenough but it doesnt give you the right to shun someone elses beliefs. You wouldnt do it to someone who believed in a god you dont believe in.

In an attempt to explain the 'horses dont speak english' thing. This is the way I see it ( any communicators correct me if im wrong here). Horses dont speak english no, but the communicator isnt speaking to the horse in english. They connect with thoughts and feelings in the horses mind and body and then translate what they pick up into words for us, so that we can understand. the horse isnt 'talking' its just thinking. or at least thats how I see it.
For example the communicator that did my sick pony recently said that she felt acid reflux when talking to Holly and that she felt she was on the verge of an ulcer. We could hear the woman burping as she was feeling what Holly was feeling. The vet later confirmed this. And can i just say I know a few vets who are more than willing to be open minded and work alongside this kind of thing.

I hope everyone can be nice from now on and respect other peoples opinions even if they themselves do not believe it.
If you dont believe it, just dont use it. End of.
 
lh1975 said:
Does anyone know if people offer the same kind of reading but to give information on a horse you're trying to trace please?
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I know some do remote viewing so can describe the environment around where the horse is currently - works for lost animals, not sure about tracing them if you mean stolen or sold on. If you want to PM me I'll give you the details of the lady i would recommend for this.

stargirl88 said:
Can you please explain it to be how then? HOW?

I'm not trying to be "closed minded" at all, if it was all proved to work then, well, that'd be wonderful. but really, how does a horse explain that he's feeling really bad about something, that he's moved from ireland, that he doesn't like his name....... without using the English language? A language that they do not speak.
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I don't know how. All I know is what I experience: that information from an animal comes through to me via my 5 "normal" senses: I "see" things, hear them, taste things (and it is NOT nice tasting blood!), smell, and feel symptoms in my own body.

How I hear a voice in English from a horse I don't know - it absolutely fascinates me. The best theory I have on the matter is that its sent from the horse in one format, and on some level our two energies meet and my brain converts it into a format I can understand.

No evidence to prove that - just a theory ;)

horsegirl said:
Why is it then that none of them are prepared to give me one small piece of info in advance to show they are genuine? Like a deposit really. If I could do this I would be more than happy to prove it to unbelievers in order that they too might benefit from my gift.
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Thread is moving quite quickly, don't know if you have seen my previous post. Several ACers do do exactly as you say - just search, or go for recommendations of people who do that.
 
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