Horse Communicators

I have used Anne Dee extensively. It's the most amazing experience. Far too much to type - I recently started work with her ghostwriting her autobiography & wrote up a lot of my experiences, so if interested, PM me your email address & I'll send what I've done.

T x
 
Personally I think you get the good ones who will always be very good and then you get others.

One once told me that my mum credited her horses with too much intelligence, then she had a life altering moment now she talks to them.

I'm not filled with confidence when the stories I hear are;

"Your horse doesn't like that you waste so much electricity turn the lights off in the house."
"Your horse is sad as you are thinking of selling him." when asked why he thought that "The dog told him."
Finally we had one at our pony club camp on year and she made one of the girls cry as their pony that had been with the family for years "was upset as she no longer had anyone small to teach to ride." The poor girl thought this meant the pony didn't want them to ride her anymore.

So im put off by them, unless any want to prove me wrong free of charge, I do not want to waste my money trying to find a good one.
 
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In all my 55 years of being involved with horses I view 'Horse Communicators' as complete and utter charlatans of no substance what so ever.
Sooner or later they are going to do someone serious damage with their ridiculous advice/readings.
Cases where all a owner does is send 'communicator' a photo of horse and they can tell all!!...total rubbish!!
I view these with total scorn and people would better spare their money rather than support this dangerous and ridiculous trend.
No doubt response will be of 'miraculous' readings that have cured/solved their problems with their horse when all that is needed is time spent with 'problem' horse and not a quick fix which is what some always look for.
 
People either believe in them or they don't. I don't believe & I think that they are charlatans who con people out of substantial amounts of money. I also think that some people turn to these people in desperation when they have tried everything else to get their horse with issues sorted out.

Some people will come out with amazing stories of how their horses issues were cured or some illness or injury started getting better or their horse's behaviour improved following a visit. They forget about coincidence, luck & good fortune etc that often plays a big part in sorting things out.

Horses are expensive to keep, save your money & spend it on something that will really help your horses behaviour like a skilled instructor or an equine behaviourist?

Oh, I don't believe in clairvoyants, Tarot Cards, Ouija Boards, the tooth fairy & the Easter Bunny either. :)
 
People who "talk" to horses? For real?!

Please read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading This is the technique used by these people. This is daylight robbery and I'm shocked that anyone still buys this nonsense.

Get a vet if it's health-related and get a behaviourist/trainer if it's behavioural. For goodness' sake don't spend money on someone pretending to commune with your horse!


edit: I know people place a lot of value (wrongly) on anecdotal evidence so let me share the experience someone I know had with a horse communicator... Said acquaintance had bought a young mare which she always refers to as a rescue though I do not know why she says this. This mare go increasingly pushy and eventually became aggressive. Owner got a communicator out who asked for some history, met the horse etc. She proceeded to say that the mare had been abused in the past and had trust issues. Little mare did not improve. She ran through several fences, owner couldn't deal and she was eventually put down. Owner still believes this communicator was AMAZING though she told her **** all. There is no evidence this horse was actually abused before but that's such an easy thing to say when history is unknown (plus owners love the idea that the problems they are seeing are due to a horrific past) and it was pretty damn obvious that the mare had "trust issues" among many other problems. Woman now has a colt (well-bred and definitely never abused as we all know the breeder) who is going the same way due to her incompetent handling... Gradually getting pushier and more prone to threatening her... If not the cost, what a disaster it is to attribute problems to entirely the wrong thing, misguide owners and have them repeat the same mistakes over and over again.
 
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I have used one - Anna Twinney - I was very impressed and definitely didn't give her any information about my lad - it was done long distance. I am also friends with a communicator and age definitely dies not rip people off. I think, like most things in life, you have good and bad and then the fraudsters.
 
The greatest boon to all these "cold readers", whether of horses or people, is the internet and FB - do people not realise how easy it is to find out supposed "amazing" stuff about them?
 
A very cynical and worldly-wise friend of mine (ex Pony Club DC so knows her marbles!!) used one, and went from being initially very sceptical, to incredulous. She told her stuff about her daughter's old pony and why it had to be PTS from "speaking" with the old mare she had........ and it was absolutely mind-blowing. The communicator could NOT have known any of it, no way. Friend was very impressed. The "communicator" was Julie Dicker, who has since very sadly passed away, and she wrote a lovely book about how to communicate with horses which someone gave to me when I had to have my old boy PTS and it was just the right thing at the right time.
 
Cortez said:
The greatest boon to all these "cold readers", whether of horses or people, is the internet and FB - do people not realise how easy it is to find out supposed "amazing" stuff about them?
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Just recently while TV channel surfing, I happened upon "Psychic Detectives", a programme made in USA about real murder cases which have been solved with the help of different psychics. I hardly think that they have been cold reading the police officers who didn't know who had committed the crimes. Admittedly in some cases it seems that the programme makers have been dredging the bottom of the barrel to find successful interventions but some of them have shown that the psychic really did pass on details which helped to identify the murderer and which could not have been known to any-one other than the murderer, where forensic tests hadn't found the evidence. I wouldn't have thought that there were many people who were more sceptical than hardened American detectives.

I have contributed my experiences to some of these threads before and been ridiculed by some very rude people. I had no problems to solve and paid no money to someone who wanted horses to practise on. What she said was spot on about the things that we knew about several of our horses.
OP if you want to know more details do a search on here.

Whilst I agree that there are charlatans in all walks of life and the unscrupulous will prey on the unwary, I think that there are many things that we don't know about/understand and that we will never understand if we close our minds to them.
 
Toby_Zaphod said:
People either believe in them or they don't. I don't believe & I think that they are charlatans who con people out of substantial amounts of money. I also think that some people turn to these people in desperation when they have tried everything else to get their horse with issues sorted out.

Some people will come out with amazing stories of how their horses issues were cured or some illness or injury started getting better or their horse's behaviour improved following a visit. They forget about coincidence, luck & good fortune etc that often plays a big part in sorting things out.

Horses are expensive to keep, save your money & spend it on something that will really help your horses behaviour like a skilled instructor or an equine behaviourist?

Oh, I don't believe in clairvoyants, Tarot Cards, Ouija Boards, the tooth fairy & the Easter Bunny either. :)
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OH NO...the Easter Bunny isn't real!!!! My world is shattered.....
 
Cortez said:
The greatest boon to all these "cold readers", whether of horses or people, is the internet and FB - do people not realise how easy it is to find out supposed "amazing" stuff about them?
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This, 100%. A friend of mine uses a communicator mentioned on this thread already. Raves about how "amazing" it is that this person can know so many things without her telling her. She doesn't seem to make the link that they are FB friends so she can see everything (which is a lot!) said friend posts on FB...
 
I've used them before, and they've known things about my horse that they couldn't have found out via web
 
wench said:
I've used them before, and they've known things about my horse that they couldn't have found out via web
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This.

Believer or not, when you don't give them your name how are they supposed to track you on the internet?!

I've used one, two in fact, for different horses and have to say the things she said she could never have found out on the internet because as said previously, I didn't give her my name and also because Facebook didn't exist the first time!
 
I used one for a bit of a laugh with my old horse. No particular reason but the communicator had seen a couple of others on the yard who were really impressed. Can't say it overcame my natural scepticism. I felt most of what I was told was a combination of logical deductions based on looking at the horse and at me and how we were with one another, and a good dollop of cold reading (not very good cold reading either, maybe the communicator was having an off day). This was a horse communicator who is quite well known and well regarded locally. Didn't say or do anything I felt was unethical or could have caused any harm, but if my horse was able to talk to me I am pretty sure those aren't the things he would have chosen to say.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
I have contributed my experiences to some of these threads before and been ridiculed by some very rude people.


Whilst I agree that there are charlatans in all walks of life and the unscrupulous will prey on the unwary, I think that there are many things that we don't know about/understand and that we will never understand if we close our minds to them.
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This is very sad but I can well believe it to be true as I have followed many of the AC threads. I have used two communicators for my horse.

Totally agree with paragraph two. People are too quick to dismiss things they don't understand.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
Just recently while TV channel surfing, I happened upon "Psychic Detectives", a programme made in USA about real murder cases which have been solved with the help of different psychics. I hardly think that they have been cold reading the police officers who didn't know who had committed the crimes. Admittedly in some cases it seems that the programme makers have been dredging the bottom of the barrel to find successful interventions but some of them have shown that the psychic really did pass on details which helped to identify the murderer and which could not have been known to any-one other than the murderer, where forensic tests hadn't found the evidence. I wouldn't have thought that there were many people who were more sceptical than hardened American detectives.
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Well, indeed. Similarly one would have expect a decent level of skepticism from the U.S. Army, but apparently not - as Ron Ronson has entertainingly documented in his book The Men Who Stare at Goats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goats
 
Pearlsasinger said:
Just recently while TV channel surfing, I happened upon "Psychic Detectives", a programme made in USA about real murder cases which have been solved with the help of different psychics. I hardly think that they have been cold reading the police officers who didn't know who had committed the crimes. Admittedly in some cases it seems that the programme makers have been dredging the bottom of the barrel to find successful interventions but some of them have shown that the psychic really did pass on details which helped to identify the murderer and which could not have been known to any-one other than the murderer, where forensic tests hadn't found the evidence. I wouldn't have thought that there were many people who were more sceptical than hardened American detectives.
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LOL, I wonder how that actually works out.

"Your Honor, I went to the psychic and he said that he had a seance with the victim, and the perpetrator had a handlebar mustache and a red hat. Mr. X has a handlebar mustache and a red hat. Can we get a search warrant for his apartment, please?"

Ooookay.

Or worse, in court.

"How did you identify Mr. X as the perpetrator?"
"I went to the psychic and he communed with the deceased, and he was told Mr. X was the perp."

I don't think parapsychology (as this stuff is broadly called) quite attains the standard required for scientific testimony admissable in court.
 
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I had Anne Dee before and she was amazing. I know she does readings via phone as well, so I will try that in the near future and report back. I heard good reports about this as well.
I know there are good and bad people everywhere but I believe Anne Dee is amazing.
 
I used one about 5 years ago. She was a work coleague of a friend, who had told her nothing (purposely) about me of my horses. This woman was a hobby communicator of dogs and cats - she knew nothing about horses whatsoever and had never attempted to communicate with them before. She didn't even charge me petrol money, did it for her own interest.

I'm a scientist and a sceptic. She blew me away. She got NOTHING from my one horse - who at the time was closed down, didn't trust anyone, and was in the hapit of saying "Nah." to mayy requests.

My other lad, who I'd not long bought, was fascinating. Many things she couldn't have known, including some startling specifics. She said "He misses the cat..."
When I had picked him up, there was a hollow in the shavings in the corner of his stable. I asked about it, and was told that the yard cat slept there with him every night. Nobody knew this but me, I hadn't mentioned it to anyone (and the sellers of the horse were strangers many miles away). She also said she could see something on the wall that went round and round, and that he missed that too and liked to play with it. That would have been the spinny "Lickit" ball attached to the wall of his box then. That I also had no cause to mention to anyone. There was a load more, 2 sides of A4 she later sent to me. Utterly fascinating.

As a PS to this, just recently another friend tracked her down to communicate with a problem mare, and she's STILL not taking any payment, and she's still bang on. So she's not a money grabbing charletan, and there's something strange going on there...
 
I had a woman who told me a huge amount about Mr B that has really helped me understand him and his "little ways". She didn't charge me a penny. She wasn't a communicator but was someone I tracked down using his competition record, who had known him when he was young and still at the stud where he was born, knew the rider who had evented him, had trained the girl who bought him when he was gelded and then had bought him herself and competed him for a few months before selling him on. I know it's not always possible to track down previous owners but with passports and competition records and the internet it's usually quite straightforward and I'd rather do this than rely on "horse communicators".
 
Landcruiser said:
I used one about 5 years ago. She was a work coleague of a friend, who had told her nothing (purposely) about me of my horses. This woman was a hobby communicator of dogs and cats - she knew nothing about horses whatsoever and had never attempted to communicate with them before. She didn't even charge me petrol money, did it for her own interest.

I'm a scientist and a sceptic. She blew me away. She got NOTHING from my one horse - who at the time was closed down, didn't trust anyone, and was in the hapit of saying "Nah." to mayy requests.

My other lad, who I'd not long bought, was fascinating. Many things she couldn't have known, including some startling specifics. She said "He misses the cat..."
When I had picked him up, there was a hollow in the shavings in the corner of his stable. I asked about it, and was told that the yard cat slept there with him every night. Nobody knew this but me, I hadn't mentioned it to anyone (and the sellers of the horse were strangers many miles away). She also said she could see something on the wall that went round and round, and that he missed that too and liked to play with it. That would have been the spinny "Lickit" ball attached to the wall of his box then. That I also had no cause to mention to anyone. There was a load more, 2 sides of A4 she later sent to me. Utterly fascinating.

As a PS to this, just recently another friend tracked her down to communicate with a problem mare, and she's STILL not taking any payment, and she's still bang on. So she's not a money grabbing charletan, and there's something strange going on there...
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Do you know where this lady is based at all?
 
I used Anne Dee about a year ago, and she was great, but I have just used one recently, who was recommended on here, who told me my horse was in pain all over, her brain signals don't always get through, and who wouldn't really talk to her.
She then recommended i get someone down to do some work with her from the area(some kind of deep muscle stuff). When I asked this woman how much it would be, it was £160! Way over my budget.
Ac also recommended I try a couple of herbal things, which I have, and said she needed to come and see her in person (she is in Scotland, I'm in Sussex), for which she wanted approx £130, which I am not prepared to pay.
When I said this, and asked if she could speak to her over the phone again she said yes payable as before, but as I got 10 mins last time, and very little info, I said that I should not have to pay again. To be fair to her she has agreed, and is going to communicate with her tonight, so I will see what she says.
I am kind of sceptical, but feel there must be something in it, but really felt that this person was a bIt too much about the money :(.
Will update later
 
Pearlsasinger said:
I have contributed my experiences to some of these threads before and been ridiculed by some very rude people.

Whilst I agree that there are charlatans in all walks of life and the unscrupulous will prey on the unwary, I think that there are many things that we don't know about/understand and that we will never understand if we close our minds to them.
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I think it's so wrong to ridicule someone else's opinion. Personally I dont believe in God, I would love to believe there is a God as I think it must be very comforting to have faith, but I find myself questioning everything I've ever learnt about religion. However, there are many millions of people who do believe in a God and totally trust their religious beliefs. Should I mock them? Of course not!

I'll bet the ones that are so sceptical have never allowed themselves the experience to make a real judgement on it. Just because something doesnt appear logical, or cant be explained, doesnt IMO mean it cant happen. I am so open minded to everything, I find it fascinating that people might have skills and talents that most dont. There is so much that science has yet to learn about how the brain works, why isn't it possible that some people are able to tap into psychic abilities?

I'm sure there are some charlatans that prey on the vulnerable and cash in on their misfortune but I do not believe this of all communicators, and certainly not the ones I've come across.

I've had 2 recent experiences. The first was when we were struggling to get a diagnosis on our horse - this lady was recommended to us by several people and she charged very little (basically just covered her expenses to get to us and then spent 2+ hours with us). The information she volunteered to us was spot on and made a lot of sense. However the answers we go to some of the questions we asked was not so accurate. She also gave healing and the horse's reaction to this was quite amazing. Overall, it was an interesting experience and I'm glad we had it done. I wouldnt let her findings influence my decisions but then again, I never intended to.

The second experience came from an Applied Kinesiologist. She doesnt call herself a communicator but she has found she has the ability and she uses it with her therapies to help those that cant directly communicate (ie disabled people and animals). She asked us not to tell her what was wrong with the horse, and all she had from me before coming to the appointment was my first name and my phone number. She told us exactly what was wrong with the horse, which tied up with the extensive vet diagnostics we'd had. In fact she was able to pinpoint exactly where the problem was with far more detail than I've ever discussed with anyone other than my vet and my physio. She gave a treatment which the horse loved, and instructions for some massage for us to continue after treatment. She is coming back to do a second treatment in a few weeks and she feels sure that 2 treatments is all that is needed.

What she did looked fairly simple. I'd love to believe that it's going to be that easy but at the moment I cant quite believe it will be, so still keeping an open mind on this one. We have noticed changes in the horse, with things that she has always done and we accepted as normal for her and hadnt associated with her condition - since treatment she is now doing these quirky things in a normal way!

So I'd say, if someone wants to get a communicator and can afford it, then why not? If it makes the owner happy and it doesnt harm the horse, then what is the problem?

Believe me, I have wasted far more money on incompetent saddle fitters and poor instructors in the past 6 months than I have on communicators/alternative therapies!
 
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