hnmisty
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Idiot move by the owner and I can understand why the police are involved, but the RSPCA? During one of the worst welfare crisis this country has faced in recent history? Really?!
Hmm.
Hmm.
Horse in Tescos - Police and RSPCA
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Jazzy B
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pretty stupid thing to do, I hope she had third party liability for her TB cob..
ellie11987
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Absolute idiot. Not surprised the police are involved. Could have done some serious damage if it went wrong. Who the hell walks a shod horse into a supermarket? He was slipping all over the place, the poor thing.
lula
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thank Gawd Mr thoroughbred cob didnt dump all over Tesco's sweaky clean lino or the owner would probably be paying compensation for a whole team of specialist health and safety forensics cleaners in white suits to come and sterilise it. If it were me i'd be thanking my lucky stars just for that if i were her.
BIG mistake.
BIG mistake.
fatpony
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The horse looked well cared for the rider looked an idiot. The RSPCA don't need to get involved especially considering the area this happened in - theres a lot more there to keep them busy but that wouldn't get the publicity
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_GG_
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It doesn't say anywhere that the RSPCA are doing anything though. It just says that the police discussed it with them to determine if there were any welfare issues.
Ibblebibble
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Marydoll
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Saw this, thought I would share:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-26047449
I know the video content has already been discussed in depth on another thread, I personally wouldn't ride into Tescos but I don't think it is the worst equine crime going.
The RSPCA are now involved to investigate whether there were any animal welfare issues.
Now I know the RSPCA are famed for spending their time and resources in all kinds of illogical ways and enjoy a political crusade once in a while - but surely out of the thousands of malnourished, abused and starved horses and other animals in this country who genuinely do need their welfare cases reviewing, this is not one. Irresponsible of the owner - but the cob I saw in the video looked very smart and well cared for, as far as cobs can doHe certainly didn't look like a welfare case.
Is there any possibility the RSPCA can come down to Brant river bank and take the poor tethered mare who looks absolutely emaciated and is a genuine welfare case but "has access to water", instead of pursuing this?
This is why i wouldnt give a penny to the rspca, absolutely ludicrous to spend money time effort and energy on this. The horse in Tescos was in fantastic nick, was it a silly thing to do ? probably, but imo riding on that surface was no more dangerous than riding out on a winter morning when you can find ice on the roads. The horse looks well cared for and was well controlled by the rider to turn this in to a welfare issue is bonkers...... The world has indeed gone mad !
Moomin1
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Forgive me for wondering, but how does the fact the police have 'been in talks with the RSPCA', translate to the RSPCA spending time, effort and energy on it?!
It doesn't say anywhere in that article that the RSPCA are 'looking' into any form of investigation.
Another fine example of people jumping to conclusions.
Marydoll
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I disagree the horse slipped a couple of times, not all over the place, was it a stupid stunt, yes but as for the "what ifs", aaaargh what if a car flies around the corner,what if he spooks on the road,what if he refuses, what if i fall off, what if, what if !!!! if we went on the what ifs of life we'd never get on a horse and as we all seen on the video, nothing bad happened to anybody and the what ifs were shelved for another day !!
Marydoll
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How is it jumping to conclusion or if theyre investigating does that mean the person does it for free ??
We all know youre a big supporter of them Moomin, good for you , personally o wouldnt see them in my road
We all know youre a big supporter of them Moomin, good for you , personally o wouldnt see them in my road
Moomin1
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How is it jumping to conclusion or if theyre investigating does that mean the person does it for free ??
We all know youre a big supporter of them Moomin, good for you , personally o wouldnt see them in my road
You do realise that quite simply the police may have ASKED for advice on the situation?! As simple as that?!
How is that possibly the fault of the RSPCA - are they meant to refuse to answer? And how much money and effort do you think it would be for an a phone call to take place? Hardly breaking the bank..
I have no idea the level of involvement, and am certainly not about to jump to the conclusion that a full blown investigation costing time and money has been instigated simply because a sentence in the press states 'the POLICE have been in TALKS with the RSPCA'....
HBB
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Chief Inspector Sue Robinson, of Durham Constabulary, said:
'On Monday afternoon police were called by staff at the Tesco store in St Helen Auckland reporting a number of young women had been in the premises, with one of them riding a horse. They allegedly threatened a member of staff before leaving a few minutes later.
'Officers have viewed the in-store security footage as well as the video clip which has been circulating on social media.
'Those involved are believed to be well-known to both staff at the store and to ourselves and we will be arranging for them to attend their local police station at the earliest opportunity.
'At this stage we are trying to establish what criminal offences might have been committed and discussions have taken place with the RSPCA in regards to the welfare of the horse.
'It goes without saying this was a senseless and foolish thing to do. There were a number of shoppers in the store at the time and it is fortunate no one was hurt.'
I would imagine, if "discussions" have taken place with the RSPCA, someone has picked up a phone and asked for their view on the video in question. It does not say the RSPCA are investigating.
'On Monday afternoon police were called by staff at the Tesco store in St Helen Auckland reporting a number of young women had been in the premises, with one of them riding a horse. They allegedly threatened a member of staff before leaving a few minutes later.
'Officers have viewed the in-store security footage as well as the video clip which has been circulating on social media.
'Those involved are believed to be well-known to both staff at the store and to ourselves and we will be arranging for them to attend their local police station at the earliest opportunity.
'At this stage we are trying to establish what criminal offences might have been committed and discussions have taken place with the RSPCA in regards to the welfare of the horse.
'It goes without saying this was a senseless and foolish thing to do. There were a number of shoppers in the store at the time and it is fortunate no one was hurt.'
I would imagine, if "discussions" have taken place with the RSPCA, someone has picked up a phone and asked for their view on the video in question. It does not say the RSPCA are investigating.
Marydoll
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Youre also jumping to the conclusion its just a phone call, either way its still costing money for the call and staff time ? But as others have said its riding on the coat tails for publicity, id have more respect if they were tending to, calling about or dealing with the other horse in the op, my opinion on them is the opposite to yours moomin i wont change it because you want me too
HBB
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FGS is this for real???? The RSPCA are being slated because the Police asked for their advice and mentioned their name in a press statement!? The Police are investigating and will be looking at ALL legislation that will be relevant.
If it was in Scotland the stupid twonk would probably be charged with breach of the peace. Sadly there is no such thing in England.
If it was in Scotland the stupid twonk would probably be charged with breach of the peace. Sadly there is no such thing in England.
Marydoll
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As stated before they need to go and rescue or help something or someone who needs it. The horse in question very clearly doesnt
Youre right though, up here she wouldve been done for breach and wouldve deserved it, but it wouldnt have had people involving the sspca
Youre right though, up here she wouldve been done for breach and wouldve deserved it, but it wouldnt have had people involving the sspca
Hoof_Prints
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There are worse crimes, and nobody was actually hurt, the horse looks well cared for and despite the idiotic behaviour of the owner, I'm sure it is. I would imagine the police and RSPCA investigation is less to do with the welfare issues, and more to do with deterring anyone else who sees this (and there's a large audience!) from doing the same/similar thing. It's very important to highlight this event as something dangerous that has consequences for anyone who may attempt it. The majority of horses would not behave so well and cause some serious damage if this was attempted.
babymare
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Im sorry but the only person that needs the finger pointing at is the rider for an act of utter stupidity. thsnkful no member of public was hurt but by god this was a dangerous act and poss consequences does not bear thinking about. Police and RSPCA are probably following set procedures and good on them. I cannot believe that the rider thought it was good for a laugh and if she had been my daughter(but thankfully mine has more than an ounce of commonsense) she would have felt my hand on her ears. so no i dont question the police or rspca actions.I say well cheers luv for putting the equstrian world in public eye for the wrong reason. Nice one
_GG_
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It's a police investigation. The police have stated that they have had discussions with the RSCPA.
I don't see that Moomin has asked you to change your opinion on them. I do see that you have accused them of something on the basis of absolutely no evidence.
If you really really don't like the RSPCA, you're position will carry much more weight if you refrain from blasting them for things they haven't done. All that will serve to do is weaken any valid opposition you have to them.
The RSPCA have been very vocal in their intent to investigate those who have been swallowing live goldfish in the game...they have made no comments anywhere, at all about the woman at the centre of this thread.
Marydoll
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Yes this was a stupid thing to do but imo to say its been blown out of all proportion is an understatment. Anyone looking at the horse can see its well cared for, im going bow out of this now as im obviously in the minority with my opinion on both the incident and rspca involvement, i do take on board however that i misread the rspca were investigating the incident which imo would be a ludicrous waste of money, but will watch to see where this case goes both by the police and the rspca
_GG_
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Oh, I am in total agreement re the mountain out of a molehill, as I said in my first comment. It's all a bit ridiculous really isn't it!
Marydoll
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Yep of that we are in total agreement
LaMooch
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LeneHorse
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well said, Babymare. The person that did this has not helped public opinion of horse riders one little bit.
lhotse
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It's usually the customers that dump on the floor (yes, it has happened in our local store on more than one occasion!) so they are used to cleaning excrement. A bit of horse crap is preferable to human and more hygienic!!
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Elsiecat
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The saying 'mountain out of a molehill' really is apt.
I'd say what she did would be no more risky than riding on a road. Any road. Your horse could bolt and jump infront of a car full of people and potentially kill them all. Or it could run into a junction and send people swerving in all directions.. and potentially lots of fatalities.
And like a poster mentioned before re. the slipping thing - horses will be sliding all over hunting at this time of year. I doubt the rider planned it.
Life is full of what ifs.
Silly? Yes.
Animal welfare case? No.
I'd say what she did would be no more risky than riding on a road. Any road. Your horse could bolt and jump infront of a car full of people and potentially kill them all. Or it could run into a junction and send people swerving in all directions.. and potentially lots of fatalities.
And like a poster mentioned before re. the slipping thing - horses will be sliding all over hunting at this time of year. I doubt the rider planned it.
Life is full of what ifs.
Silly? Yes.
Animal welfare case? No.
babymare
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mmmmm i see it alot more dangerous than riding on road unless she rides in tescos often. A totaly alien world of aisles trolleys tills sights sounds with members of public up close and personal. The risk she put public and her horse in for the sake of a laugh and a video on face book is beyond thinkable. Mountain out of mole hill? I dont see it like that and hope there is something she can be charged with to make her stop and think next time because next time her hilarious prank may not end quite so well and then what would we all be saying.
Elf On A Shelf
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If it was in the Heavyweight Cob class at Olympia then it is in a league of its own seeing as the only showing at Olympia is the M&M's and the Veterans!
The woman was an idiot for taking her horse in the shop but it was her choice. No need for all the kerfuffle!
babymare
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Yes it was her choice but im sorry elderly people children members of public were there which wad thier choice not to be put in a ridiculous stupid dangerous position. If that horse had panicked god help those peolple. Ok it didnt but the public should not have been put in that position because of 1 brain dead person. HOYS or OLYMPIA the people in the ring know how to react if a horse bolts . And they do. tell that to a mother with a pram or disabled person inan aisle of thier local tescos. And all to put a video on facebook.