Horse is fitting after head injury- what are my chances?

That's good news Chloe.

From the beginning, I felt that your daughter was being quite realistic about Rosa's chances and had already got her mind around PTS if needed, and indeed was thinking it was very likely. You strike me as a practical pair who have been round the block with horses a few times and I applaud you for sticking to your guns about demanding second opinions.

I am pleased to hear she is brighter this morning and I will keep everything crossed that she continues to recover. I don't really understand why no xrays but I am not there so only you and HH can be the judge on that one.
 
Brilliant news. The fact that she was so much better early on with pain relief made it very clear that it was not neurological and that if the pain could be controlled she would improve again. Such a shame your daughter was badly let down by the vet.
 
Brilliant news to hear! Bet that whinnie never sounded so good.

She obvs knows there are lots of people rooting for her ��

Lovely news to wake up to! Your daughter is lucky to have such a knowledgable determined mum ��
 
So glad that Rosa is continuing to improve.

When the outcome is clearer, if she were my horse, I would be asking the senior partner to review the case notes and for an explanation of her treatment by the attending vet. We went through a similar experience when we lost a foal and nearly lost his mum - vet's arrogance was instrumental and I have often wished since that we had insisted that the young vet had been held to account. Mind you he didn't stay at the practice very long!
 
Chloe-V said:
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Believe it or not, I'm a private person and not taken to public debates etc, so the only reason I came onto here was to stand my daughters and Rosa's corner when she was seriously struggling to deal with it all.

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Chloe, that has never been in question.

Others on here will be parents too, and coupled to the worry of the mare, will be your natural defence system which protects your daughter. 400 miles is a long way, isn't it? You have my sympathy and understanding.

Alec. xxx (one each, for you, your daughter and the mare!).
 
Oh this is fantastic news to wake up to. Absolutely brilliant!! I am so pleased for you all. Well done Rosa... She is a fighter. I would so love to see a wee photo of her when she is feeling better for the camera :) xxx
 
selinas spirit said:
I'm so glad she's picking up. I'm the last person to say put to sleep if there is a chance of recovery.
Hope she's getting the correct treatment now.
I would really want xrays asap if it were me though.
There really is no way the vet can know if there is more serious damage without them.
Good luck and I hope she continues to improve.
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Sorry you keep banging on about x rays there is an explanation a few pages back that they would not be of any benefit at this time and would not change the care shes getting.
 
Wow this little girls a fighter! Well done OP and mum for sticking to your guns and getting her the help she needs. I hope she keeps improving. Please keep us updated if possible.
Everyone please can we not turn this thread into a "debate". Can it just be left as a supportive positive place for the OP and her mum?
 
Thank you so much for the update Chloe-V, so pleased to read Rosa is eating hay as well now, well done to you both for giving her a fighting chance, hopefully that vet has learnt a very valuable lesson, just a shame he was too proud to listen in the first place.
 
I haven't posted before as I have no experience of head injuries in horses (thank goodness)

If she were mine I am afraid I would have taken what would, in this case, have been the cowardly option and had her PTS. I applaud your strength of character and your faith in Rosa's recovery and am thrilled that she seems to have turned a corner.

Wishing all three of you the very best and sincerely hope when this is over you can enjoy your precious mare again. x
 
Just wanted to add that I've been following this thread but not commenting, very glad to hear the mare is improving.

John Keen is a brilliant vet, having him involved would reassure me that she will get the best possible treatment now.

Good luck.
 
Alec Swan said:
Civil, kindly and well intentioned debate can be of just as much use as sympathy.

Alec.
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It can be granted but I dont think this is the place. The OP and her mum have been through enough. That said I know your posts are well meant and have all the best intentions behind them Alec :)
 
Equine_Dream said:
It can be granted but I dont think this is the place. The OP and her mum have been through enough. That said I know your posts are well meant and have all the best intentions behind them Alec :)
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I think people come on these forums to ask advice and opinions and get support. Everyone will have their own opinion based on the info given. To that end a civil and kind and well intended discussion / debate is exactly the purpose of such a forum... unless the OP specifically states that they dont want opinions of others. ;)
 
Chloe-V said:
Update...
this message from my daughter early this morning;-

"Shockingly, she's eating her hay, has drunk a lot, devoured her breakfast and whinnied at me".

Believe it or not, I'm a private person and not taken to public debates etc, so the only reason I came onto here was to stand my daughters and Rosa's corner when she was seriously struggling to deal with it all.

I wasn't completely in the dark as I personally do have some medical training, albeit in humans and a long time ago.
That, along with many years of horse ownership and having had three horses with head injuries in the past, all different causes btw, does give me at least an instinct that certainly tells me when I'm being 'bull shitted' by a vet who doesn't know what to do, so he does nothing! Sadly for Rosa, he was so conceited that he wouldn't take advice from any of his peers, let alone Edinburgh.

I've come across his like in the NHS too...I'm sure a lot of you can also relate to that one.

I had been asking for Vit B and/or an electrolyte infusion last week....how dare I? he knew better!!

I won't keep a horse alive at all costs, but I also won't give in when I'm convinced we have a very good chance of success with other obvious avenues to try.

Once again i'd like to thank all of you who have been such a support to her, I know it has helped.

Rosa isn't on opiates now btw, so I'm still rooting for her.
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Same here :) I'm so pleased for you all, Still got everything crossed!
 
I am so pleased that things are looking so much better this time around :) I often wonder why some vets (and other professionals, not all horse related) think that the person they are speaking to has no knowledge of pretty much anything! So glad you have managed to get someone to actually listen and do something to help the mare to recover. I have found that some vets think that if the horse isn't a "top competition" horse, it isn't worth their time, not their call to make!
Onwards and upwards :)
 
YorksG said:
I am so pleased that things are looking so much better this time around :) I often wonder why some vets (and other professionals, not all horse related) think that the person they are speaking to has no knowledge of pretty much anything! …….. Onwards and upwards :)
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Those 'professionals' who are able to engage with and include the owner (regardless of their experience), and in their decisions and thoughts, are few and far between.

In 1993, I had a colt with OCD in his stifles, Ian Wright who at the time was with the AHT 'phoned and left an AP message, complete with his home 'phone number, and when I 'phoned him back, we talked for an hour about the problem. The important point was that he included me, the owner, in the discussion and the decisions which were to be taken.

Just why so many who we rely upon find an open and inclusive conversation to be so difficult, is beyond me. We aren't all idiots! :)

Alec.
 
Not posted before but been following the feed. How is Rosa this evening? Sending healing vibes for Rosa. And hugs to op and mum. Stay strong all 3 of you and keep going in the right direction ☺
 
I'm so pleased you have a decent vet now, please complain about the moron who thought he knew best, wait until things are more stable and then kick up a fuss about his behaviour. Kisses to Rosa.
 
Just wanted to say its great to hear the positive updates. Well done for having the strength to get this far. Best wishes to you all and long may her recovery continue.
 
Apparently she's spent the day 'stuffing her face' and rubbing herself on the woman on the yard who helps my daughter when she's at work. Good reports all day today.
So far, so good. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
 
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