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BSJAlove

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i would also like to add that if you chose to put her in pelham, and ride her like you did in one of you videos, which i have just watched where you very clearly pulled, to the extent you were pulling her mouth open, you will do more damage to her then good and you will find she will learn to avoid your hand in a stronger bit and will continue to rush. there for PLEASE listen the advice you so clearly asked of people who 'know' what they are talking about and give the pony a chance. shes got a great jump and your only 14 and have every chance of being successful i BSJA, if you do it properly.
 

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Best analogy i've heard in a long time :D!!!!!

*bows* why thankyou.

OP I've been there, I wanted to do the big stuff and thought quick fixes would do it. Maybe you can try, but I doubt it will work for you, and you will wish, as I did, that you had taken the time to do it properly.
 

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M ex-racer used to pelt into fences like a..well a hurdler really. Just as he was taught. Although it frustrated me, it was just what he knew. He didn't know I didn't want to be catapulted into the air every time we jumped. :p A year or so later re-schooling and he is a different horse. Jumped him 3ft the other day and he didn't rush, cat leap or anything else. He popped it beautifully in a lovley rythmic canter. In a snaffle. Please do not use harsh bits! Listen to all this advice. Jumping isn't everything - and neither is height. Why not set up some low grids if you desperate to jump all the time - atleast this way you are teaching her co-ordination, balance etc. But you really must get some good, proper schooling in. 'Tucking her head in' doesn't count either. She must be engaging her hindquarters and working through. This way she will not rush. Good luck. ;)
 

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maybe try a jointed pelham, so its only strong when you need it, or a grackle worked for my mare
 

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Why is this person only listening to the post she wants to hear? Flatwork really would be your friend and the only way to solve this problem rather than a quick fix (that probably wouldnt enable you to get any more clear rounds anyway!).
 

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How interesting that the OP has taken advice from a newbie who has just posted in Comp Riders looking for sponsors and being blase about jumping her horse with *gashed legs*....
 

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How interesting that the OP has taken advice from a newbie who has just posted in Comp Riders looking for sponsors and being blase about jumping her horse with *gashed legs*....

I just noticed same thing! tbh OP was only ever going to agree with a poster who suggested a nice strong bit! which very kindly came just in time :p
 

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There is a time and a place for strong bits but its towards the end of the journey not the beginning. I actually jump my horse in a gag, which we have just switched to a fulmer gag from a cheltenham and he has worked his way through a number of combinations over the years. The biting has changed as his needs have. He does a lot of flatwork (snaffle always,) but even those combinations have changed to help him as his work develops. I have lessons from a good instructor so there is a specific reason for why my horse is bitted the way he is. If you ignore everything else everyone tells you please take this thought away. 1. if you really want to have success at SJ competitively, even over 80cm, if you do not have the basic schooling in place, you will not get on 2. You can not simply stick a strong bit into your horses mouth without considering what you are trying to achieve - a pelham tends to help horses who want to stick their head down and go but you say your mare sticks her head up (which really does sound like an evasion) 3. If you overbit your mare she will simply stop! When I had my previous mare to event, she came with a pelham. We ditched that as the mare was so far behind the bridle jumping became unpleasant. Took a wide variety of combinations to work out what she would accept when jumping/xc but even then, she always schooled in a snaffle.
 

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I'm sure there are cheaper options..... maybe some cheesewire?! :eek: :p


heh, I once had a horse (not Danny lad) that for a long time I wanted to just put in a stronger bit, it was easier! In the end, I could take her XC/hunting in a nylon in-hand snaffle if I wished (and did! :eek:). Many things are possible! :)
 

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eta I am pleased there is a bit of rubber tube on the lower one. I was actuallyafter one of those 8 ring gag jobbys :)
 

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Loving the smiley that bangs its head against the wall, and the circly one too!!

Is now a good time to mention bridges, and the things that lurk beneath them? :rolleyes:;);):D:D:p
 

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tbh guys im actul taking your advice And NOT chaning but taking the mick outt me isnt nice tbh im only 14 and i dont know much about bits? ok thats why iv ask the questions i cant always reply coz im busy [hwk gcse ect] yes i do care about my horse she came to me in a 3ring gag and i was told for the past few years was riding in a pelham!!! thats the only reason i suggest it!! and i know how to use it i used it for flatwork [WOW then my horse was goodlol] but im in a snaffle asking for help not for you guys to take the micky!!!!
 

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tbh guys im actul taking your advice And NOT chaning but taking the mick outt me isnt nice tbh im only 14 and i dont know much about bits? ok thats why iv ask the questions i cant always reply coz im busy [hwk gcse ect] yes i do care about my horse she came to me in a 3ring gag and i was told for the past few years was riding in a pelham!!! thats the only reason i suggest it!! and i know how to use it i used it for flatwork [WOW then my horse was goodlol] but im in a snaffle asking for help not for you guys to take the micky!!!!

look. you asked for our advice and replied only to the one suggesting to try a harsh bit. when i was 14, i was having regular lessons with a brilliant trainer and i learned my basic schooling and jumping exercises from him. i suggest you do the same, then there will be no need to ask our advice and turn your nose up at it.
 
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