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Crazycob06

Crazycob06

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For anyone who read my post earlier about our accident today, I have found out the problem. We now need to know how to fix it!

My friend has a new horse on loan. It has planted itself twice now. The first time my friend got off and walked home and put it down to her being in season. Today she persivered and it resulted in the horse rearing and falling on top of her and bolting, making my horse with me on board follow.

My friend has spoken to the owner who has said if she ever does that she just waits for her to get over it. Not sure how long or if she just got off. Clearly the horse now thinks this is acceptable.

Any tips on how to get her out of this habbit? She is 16 so not a young horse. Any advice please before we go back out again would be much appreciated as I don't really want to risk another accident!
 
It it's on loan and it reared over backwards personally I'd send it back. Not worth risking injury for and there's plenty horses out there without this nasty habit.
 
pinklilly said:
It it's on loan and it reared over backwards personally I'd send it back. Not worth risking injury for and there's plenty horses out there without this nasty habit.
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This ^^^ it is on loan so it can be sent home before your friend has another, possibly worse, accident, horses that rear and go over are not worth the risk.
 
I would do the same but my friend wants to give her another go. I don't think I will be riding with her as me and my horse ended up in danger because of it but at the sometime I don't want her riding out alone. She needs to rest her leg for a while anyway so she has a little time to think.

Is there anyone who has had an experience with this and has any ideas?

It's a shame because she is usually the sweetest horse I've known.
 
Did the owner mean that when the mare planted she just waited for her to get over it - hence that method dealt with the "planting" issue without any subsequent drama, or was the owner saying the rearing always came with the planting. Exactly what did your friend do when she "persevered". I have ridden horses that "planted" and a sharp smack sent them straight forward with no problems, but i have also ridden horses that would plant and go completely rigid - kicking, smacking etc would turn things into a huge drama and not be all that sucessfull in the long run, whilst sitting very quietly and simply preventing the horse from turning round with a very calm attitude, then quietly putting a leg aid on to go forward when the horse seemed to relax a little - with the idea that "we will stand quietly on this spot all day if needs be" seemed to work better over time - weeks and weeks repeating this approach would gradually reduce the length of the "plantings". My point is, if the method of dealing with the planting induced the rear your friend may just need to change her approach, but if the rearing was part of the initial planting it may be a bigger challenge. If your friend wants to try again it might be a good idea to ask the owner to go out with her and show her exactly how she dealt with this.
 
maresmaid said:
Did the owner mean that when the mare planted she just waited for her to get over it - hence that method dealt with the "planting" issue without any subsequent drama, or was the owner saying the rearing always came with the planting. Exactly what did your friend do when she "persevered". I have ridden horses that "planted" and a sharp smack sent them straight forward with no problems, but i have also ridden horses that would plant and go completely rigid - kicking, smacking etc would turn things into a huge drama and not be all that sucessfull in the long run, whilst sitting very quietly and simply preventing the horse from turning round with a very calm attitude, then quietly putting a leg aid on to go forward when the horse seemed to relax a little - with the idea that "we will stand quietly on this spot all day if needs be" seemed to work better over time - weeks and weeks repeating this approach would gradually reduce the length of the "plantings". My point is, if the method of dealing with the planting induced the rear your friend may just need to change her approach, but if the rearing was part of the initial planting it may be a bigger challenge. If your friend wants to try again it might be a good idea to ask the owner to go out with her and show her exactly how she dealt with this.
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The owner waited for her to get over the planting with out any rearing occurring. It was when my friend tried to push her on she reared. My friend tried circling her first which she did but then planted again (didn't actually step forward at all) then tried a bit of a kick and a tap with the whip but the horse was as you described, rigid. She didn't over do it as she didn't feel comfortable with it not being her horse but yet the horse still reared.

My friend has decided to send the horse back, it will be collected Tuesday. Now what concerns me is that the lady has already advertised her as a happy hacker before she even has her back. And a happy hacker is not what she is!
 
I am pleased the horse is going back, the owner has obviously had this issue and the horse has learnt it can just stop and the rider does nothing, that may be alright if the horse is your own and you are happy for it to behave that way but most people expect a horse to go forward when asked, not rear and go over.
Passing it on again is not your problem, there is nothing you can do it is the owners decision and any consequences are hers not yours.
 
Springy said:
The owner clearly doesnt care :( but not alot you or your friend can do.... atleast you two will be safe :)
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I was thinking the same thing, its so sad as she is such a sweet horse. I hope she doesn't end up in the wrong hands or hurting anybody! But yes, at least me and my friend will be safe. Well, lets see what the next one is like first! Haha!
 
I would be inclined to message the owner via the advert and say you have seen this horse in action and its not a 'happy hacker' and that she should think carefully before falsly advertising. You might get an abusive message back but at the end of the day you have done what you can and this owner might see sense and be more honest.

An ex friend of mine advertised her horse for LWVTB saying he could do all sorts of things when the fact was she got him for free by pretending to be a rehoming/ rescue (not sure what lies she came out with!) because the horse was only good enough as a light hacks type and she had only ridden him a grand total of three times and inclusively for about 30 minutes!

I saw the advert and sent her a message saying she should re word her advert because there was no way this horse could go out XC or eventing in his condition. The advert was changed slightly but disapeared soon after so not sure what happened to him. The last i heard of her she was being investigated by the RSPCA so very glad i am no longer assocatied with the likes of her!
 
Antw23uk said:
I would be inclined to message the owner via the advert and say you have seen this horse in action and its not a 'happy hacker' and that she should think carefully before falsly advertising. You might get an abusive message back but at the end of the day you have done what you can and this owner might see sense and be more honest.

An ex friend of mine advertised her horse for LWVTB saying he could do all sorts of things when the fact was she got him for free by pretending to be a rehoming/ rescue (not sure what lies she came out with!) because the horse was only good enough as a light hacks type and she had only ridden him a grand total of three times and inclusively for about 30 minutes!

I saw the advert and sent her a message saying she should re word her advert because there was no way this horse could go out XC or eventing in his condition. The advert was changed slightly but disapeared soon after so not sure what happened to him. The last i heard of her she was being investigated by the RSPCA so very glad i am no longer assocatied with the likes of her!
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I do feel the need to say something so I might. At least I see she has put to stay at present yard for time being. Hopefully she won't let her go too soon!
 
Crazycob06 said:
For anyone who read my post earlier about our accident today, I have found out the problem. We now need to know how to fix it!

My friend has a new horse on loan. It has planted itself twice now. The first time my friend got off and walked home and put it down to her being in season. Today she persivered and it resulted in the horse rearing and falling on top of her and bolting, making my horse with me on board follow.

My friend has spoken to the owner who has said if she ever does that she just waits for her to get over it. Not sure how long or if she just got off. Clearly the horse now thinks this is acceptable.

Any tips on how to get her out of this habbit? She is 16 so not a young horse. Any advice please before we go back out again would be much appreciated as I don't really want to risk another accident!
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I'm glad that you and your friend are relatively ok and agree that it would be best to send this horse back to its owner BUT I guess that your friend made the matter worse by leading the horse home when it planted the first time. This is obviously a canny horse, which thought that it could get out of work and to go home by stopping. What a pity the owner didn't tell your friend how to deal with the planting before she let it leave her yard.
I would suggest to your friend that next time she decides that it is best to get off a horse (and I have no problem with that), she should insist that it continues to do exactly what it would have done if she had been on top.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
I'm glad that you and your friend are relatively ok and agree that it would be best to send this horse back to its owner BUT I guess that your friend made the matter worse by leading the horse home when it planted the first time. This is obviously a canny horse, which thought that it could get out of work and to go home by stopping. What a pity the owner didn't tell your friend how to deal with the planting before she let it leave her yard.
I would suggest to your friend that next time she decides that it is best to get off a horse (and I have no problem with that), she should insist that it continues to do exactly what it would have done if she had been on top.
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I completely agree. That's one of the main things I will not do with my younger mare when out. we don't turn around and head home, if need be we do a smaller circuit but never turn around!
 
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