Horse wont come out of his stable

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Racist?? Where the heck did that come from? Has someone been racist on this thread? Crikey I think perhaps I have spent far too much time on here today I am feeling quite bewildered now. Off to eat something delicious, after a light tea I shall allow myself two squares of Lindt 85%, that should blow the cobwebs away.☺️
 
JFTDWS said:
Call me old fashioned, but I'd be mortified if someone thought I had said something racist. I wouldn't blame them, and I certainly wouldn't want them banned from a forum. I'd want to apologise for having said something that could be interpreted in that way.

But hey, that's just me.
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Similar. I’ve had a couple of run ins with one particular poster (not Birker). I will never apologise to them, but that’s by the by. I would always apologise for something I inadvertently said though, or on reflection realised I was wrong.
 
You'd think their are fields full of horses constantly walking up to the lecky fencing and zapping themselves!

Mine have literally never zapped themselves on the fencing, because they can literally sense the current and they know that the thing is on and avoid it!!
 
My old boy had absolutely no respect for any fencing apart from electric. He would lean on post and rails until they snapped etc. After one zap from the electric fence, he never went near it again.

Ollie, absolutely knows when the battery has gone flat. When new battery is put on, you can watch him going along it looking for the weak spot.
 
Birker2020 said:
When any other member is barred from using the forum for a few days nothing is ever said after. It's never brought up on the forum. That member has had a slap on the wrist and received their punishment so that's it. But for some reason you can't let it go?By dragging it up its clear you are deliberately trying to antagonise me.
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I think you were lucky to get away with only a week's suspension for what you did to I'm Dun.

You've been all over the forum like a rash since you came back yesterday and not a hint of remorse anywhere.
 
Birker2020 said:
When any other member is barred from using the forum for a few days nothing is ever said after. It's never brought up on the forum. That member has had a slap on the wrist and received their punishment so that's it. But for some reason you can't let it go?By dragging it up its clear you are deliberately trying to antagonise me.

I don't recall that poster ever apologising to me when i was in the pits of despair over the things they'd said to me. 🙁And believe me, i was in despair. Nor did they ever try to make contact with me.

Nor the one that happily announced in front of everyone that I was a racist. Unsubstantiated abusive and damaging. Shocking. I still don't understand why that poster wasn't barred.

And personally speaking I can't abide Maltesers. 😁
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Plenty is often said after, sometimes even sorry for much less than deep diving a Facebook profile.

You brought it up with me by by angry emojing someone for being provocative which was staggering hypocrisy given what you just did. Apparently you still can’t see that which is sad for you and the forum. I’m not antagonising I’m staggered that saying sorry could possibly be so hard for someone, or acknowledge they made a mistake/did something wrong.

I wasn’t the first to bring it up youd just ignored everyone else.
 
KittenInTheTree said:
In an ideal world, the person who switched on the electric part of the walker without confirming that it was okay for them to do so would issue a genuine apology and pay the OP the costs of having a decent behaviourist help rehabilitate the now traumatised horse in question.
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I was thinking that with my suggestion at the start but potentially not worth the agro, I’d have been offering if me though, mistakes happen/stuff does get left on by accident but I’d feel pretty bad
 
@Birker2020 , not even sure if you would answers this, or indeed if it would be an honest answer, but I think it has quite a lot of bearing on the latest escapade leading to your temporary suspension and further understandable comment on here. Can you say if the idea to search through and infiltrate another forum members FB account and then post images from there on the forum was your idea and yours alone, or did someone suggest and or assist you with that?

Apart from anything else, how would one even begin to do that, I would have no more idea who anyone apart from a very small number of forum members that are also on my FB friend's list even are, let alone find images and put them on here. Quite some effort must have gone into that I would imagine.
 
humblepie said:
To lighten this slightly re electric fences - OH is convinced my old horse deliberately made OH lean over an electric fence to give horse a carrot in a way that horse was well away from fence but OH wasn't. Clever horse, less clever human.....
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Hmm, seem to have missed all this.
Now for something not quite completely different -
Over the years, we have had three cows (that we know about, anyway, suppose it might be more) which appeared to become ADDICTED to electric fencing shocks. Would walk straight to the wire, nose out (cattle noses are shiny and damp), jump back slightly on contact, then do it again, and again, and again.....maybe go and graze for a bit, then back to the wire for another round. These cows never went through, just kept ‘testing’ it. Inexplicable, but entertaining to watch.
 
I do know a couple of posters real names, that I’m not actually friends with. I don’t know how, (some are via hhoss), but I would never ever use them. Somehow, I do know ID’s real name. Possibly from crossover posts on FB that are mentioned on here re comments on posts.

Obviously I am really not hard to work out if someone tried 🤣
 
Trickywooo said:
It is also possible to keep a horse in a field without electrocuting it, but people do what they can 😉
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On that point, the nicest way to fence your horse is beautiful post and rail, at least £15/£20 per metre, that is several thousands of pounds for a decent size paddock, plus the gate etc. Or the lovely fencing seen on studs perhaps.

I can see the attraction of owners keeping horses at home having post and rail if their horses do not chew, lean or barge and if they can afford the cost, however, for livery yards fortunate enough to have post and rail it is common sense to put a strip of electric on it to preserve it. Horses that respect electric fencing are a godsend on livery yards. Stating an owner or yard is electrocuting a horse is an absurd comment. The use of electric fencing is essential in maintaining a safe and life saving environment for laminitis cases, for rehabbing injured horses etc.

Good mature hedging is also ideal, but always prone to the odd weak spot. All fencing has its potential dangers, horses have turned over and broken their necks jumping out of post and rail, plenty of eye injuries with hedging. Electric fence is very dangerous when slack. Everyone strives for a safe grazing facility and correctly erected electric fencing meets that remit easily without traumatising the horse.
 
ester said:
Plenty is often said after, sometimes even sorry for much less than deep diving a Facebook profile.

You brought it up with me by by angry emojing someone for being provocative which was staggering hypocrisy given what you just did. Apparently you still can’t see that which is sad for you and the forum. I’m not antagonising I’m staggered that saying sorry could possibly be so hard for someone, or acknowledge they made a mistake/did something wrong.

I wasn’t the first to bring it up youd just ignored everyone else.
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I didn't deep dive anything.
I was sent the photo by someone.
If she apologises to me for the far worse things she has said and done I will gladly reciprocate Ester.
 
Birker2020 said:
I didn't deep dive anything.
I was sent the photo by someone.
If she apologises to me for the far worse things she has said and done I will gladly reciprocate Ester.
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So someone (whoever could it have been) sent you the photo… but you still chose to post it.
Just a thought, sometimes when we are digging a great big hole we are better just putting the shovel down and walking away.
 
Birker2020 said:
I was sent the photo by someone.
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Why am I not surprised.:rolleyes: @Birker2020 I truly thought you had more wit about you than to be led by the nose like that. It wouldn't take a genius to guess who by either. Anyone, absolutely anyone who snuggled up to you by pm on that thread and supplied you with that image should be banned forever IMO, how could you even have thought that was a wise thing to do. Could you not see they were entertaining themselves at your expense, that is who they are and what they crave, manipulating and spreading discord purely for the sake of it. :mad:
 
Clodagh said:
So someone (whoever could it have been) sent you the photo… but you still chose to post it.
Just a thought, sometimes when we are digging a great big hole we are better just putting the shovel down and walking away.
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Oh just stop please.
Goading, goading, goading.

You're all aware I'm going through hell at the moment, why don't you just leave me alone.

I'm really sick of it all.
 
Nobody is goading you - you're doing this to yourself.

It shouldn't need said but:

Don't post photos of people from their personal accounts to incite criticism.

Don't use racial slurs - I remember that post and the word you used, and your reaction to being called out for it, but I wouldn't have brought it up if you hadn't.

Don't accuse posters of "goading" just because they post in disagreement with you.

Apologise when you cross a line, instead of doubling down on it.


It's actually not that hard. The reaction you're getting from people on here is because of how you've behaved on the forum. Nothing else.
 
Well there are quite a few of us going through hell right now as it happens! :mad: However I, and I am sure they too, won't use that as an excuse to be brazenly strutting about on the forum, being your usual controversial self, playing the victim card for the 20 billionth time, completely unrepentant for a very cruel and tasteless attack on another forum member who very generously gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried to dissuade those of us inclined to taker the matter up with you and defend her, from pursuing the matter with you on the thread.

But you can't even summon up the same chutzpah to write a brief but sincere apology, never mind what happened last century on another one of your main character threads. You quite enjoy all this really don't you?:rolleyes:
 
Birker2020 said:
Oh just stop please.
Goading, goading, goading.

You're all aware I'm going through hell at the moment, why don't you just leave me alone.

I'm really sick of it all.
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I am going through a really shit time at the moment too. Many others are as well, but we don’t use it as an excuse.

I don’t want to turn this post about me, I need the forum for a slap up the chops now and again. We all support each other when times are tough, take the rough with the smooth.
 
I have electric fencing on the inside of our post and rail because it's stock fenced at the bottom, and along the hedges just in case someone is desperate to break out of jail. I also use it to separate small pens and tracks when Mim is on diet.

I have honestly shocked myself more than any horse gets shocked.
 
AdorableAlice said:
On that point, the nicest way to fence your horse is beautiful post and rail, at least £15/£20 per metre, that is several thousands of pounds for a decent size paddock, plus the gate etc. Or the lovely fencing seen on studs perhaps.

I can see the attraction of owners keeping horses at home having post and rail if their horses do not chew, lean or barge and if they can afford the cost, however, for livery yards fortunate enough to have post and rail it is common sense to put a strip of electric on it to preserve it. Horses that respect electric fencing are a godsend on livery yards. Stating an owner or yard is electrocuting a horse is an absurd comment. The use of electric fencing is essential in maintaining a safe and life saving environment for laminitis cases, for rehabbing injured horses etc.

Good mature hedging is also ideal, but always prone to the odd weak spot. All fencing has its potential dangers, horses have turned over and broken their necks jumping out of post and rail, plenty of eye injuries with hedging. Electric fence is very dangerous when slack. Everyone strives for a safe grazing facility and correctly erected electric fencing meets that remit easily without traumatising the horse.
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The worst field injury I've ever seen was from post & rail.
Horse in question managed to snap a rail & impair itself through the chest. ( survived & recovered fine)
Give me working electric every day 😉
 
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