Horses for Meat

Sharon and RoyalPolo, I do think that it is lovely that you provide a loving home for your older horses - we have one old boy with us, 22or so, but he is still ridden. If you CAN provide such a lovely retirement, then do so by all means, my point was not that noone can, but that few people have such selflessness of your sacrifices (RoyalP) or determination to do right by your oldies (Sharron). For those that cannot provide such an environment, my point was that - in my opinion - PTS was a better fate than the unfortuanate circumstances of being passed around and ending up god-know's-where!
 
Have to agree with studentvet, we keep all our horses until they no longer have sufficient quality of life (which we judge). However if people don't do this then I would much rather they had them pts (and if necessary make a few £'s) than pass them on, or send them to 'retirement homes'
 
yorksG said:
Have to agree with studentvet, we keep all our horses until they no longer have sufficient quality of life (which we judge). However if people don't do this then I would much rather they had them pts (and if necessary make a few £'s) than pass them on, or send them to 'retirement homes'
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If I remember your Appy is very old, I might be wrong! Would you want to make a few £s from her?
 
Studentvet is right. It would be a marvellous thing if all horses were allowed happy retirements in fields but this just isnt a reality. I have no problem with horses being raised or slaughtered for meat if done properly , but hypocritically I don't want to eat them- they are too close to a companion animal for me. There seems to be an increase in horses going through the abattoirs in not great condition. They have clearly not been cared for or looked after in the way we would like. In these cases, I genuinely think they are better off going for meat, rather than their current quality of life. Today at the abattoir was as close as I ever came to wanting to 'rescue' one, as there were very young Welshies, rather thinner than they should be. I had to remind myself that they probably had who knows what health problems. If the person who owned then was a bit stingy with food, then things like worming would be quite low down on the list. Possibly if horses were seen as a more valuable meat (and regulated more stringently), they might get slightly better care and respect.
 
paisley said:
Studentvet is right. It would be a marvellous thing if all horses were allowed happy retirements in fields but this just isnt a reality. I have no problem with horses being raised or slaughtered for meat if done properly , but hypocritically I don't want to eat them- they are too close to a companion animal for me. There seems to be an increase in horses going through the abattoirs in not great condition. They have clearly not been cared for or looked after in the way we would like. In these cases, I genuinely think they are better off going for meat, rather than their current quality of life. Today at the abattoir was as close as I ever came to wanting to 'rescue' one, as there were very young Welshies, rather thinner than they should be. I had to remind myself that they probably had who knows what health problems. If the person who owned then was a bit stingy with food, then things like worming would be quite low down on the list. Possibly if horses were seen as a more valuable meat (and regulated more stringently), they might get slightly better care and respect.
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Dream on! If only that were true.
 
The Old Appy would certainly not bring a few quid in now, she has been dead for over 2 years! She was shot at home and removed by our local knacker firm (actually now 'pet crematorium, but abbatoir in the past), she was not a traveller at all, so would have stressed. I wouldn't take our oldies, as they would have to travel a long way to an abbatoi, where we would receive payment and I feel that woild be unfair, however I have no problem if others choose to take that route.
 
RoyalPolo said:
I would never eat horse meat nore send a horse to an abbiator because i personally would rather them pts at home without that last stressful journey but sometimes i do think its kinder for some to go there than be passed pillar to post especially older horses that less people want and there certainly seems to plenty about.

I also think though that people should be less selfish just because YOU want to ride doesn't mean because your horse is unfit to do its job that you want it to do it should be pts so you can go buy another it wouldn't hurt not to ride for a few years to give the horse some sort of retirement atleast lots of love and pampering they take up less time than a ridden horse and theres always hundreds of people with horses they never ride so borrow someone elses. I have only owned old horses and always kept them when i couldn't ride and then when i could afford 2 i got another on loan but shes unrideable also but she still stays with me because shes better off with me than with her old owner i dont really owe her anything becuase she kicks me and does nothing for me i only rode her for probably 6-8 months in the 3yrs ive owned her but big deal i would rather know her future with me than worry for the rest of my life that she was pts for no reason or is rotting in a field somewhere. I also dont have a good job but i manage to get by having two horses sometimes you just have to sacrafice other things to have them instead of being greedy all the time.
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Well said.My little section A is a pet who I have on loan to buy,shes never been broken in and shes now 9 years old.She is staying with me for the rest of her life and if she needs to be pts she will be up the field. She keeps my cob company.My cob who was bought in 2005,he was broken in as a 7 year old last year and hes hardly ridden,but both of them will stay with me the rest of his life. I will NEVER sell or send my animals anywhere.
I think some people are mean sending the horse/pony off for meat,because they are no use to the owner.
 
Some people commenting on this post want to remove their heads from the clouds of the perfect world.

In the perfect world we would all like to keep our elderly or unfit horses till the day they die, some dopped up on bute (or its alternatives) kept on meagre rations to stop laminitis. Sadly the world isn't perfect so cost, being practical and humane comes into it.

Some abattoirs do a collection service and if preferred the horse can be shot at home then taken immediately to the abattoir for processing.
 
mtj said:
If you eaten Chorizo or Italian sausage you've probably already munched an equine![/QUOTE
I am so sick of hearing this claptrap. Italian salami and Italian sausages do NOT contain horsemeat. Horsemeat is NOT used in sausages and there is no horsemeat in salami unless it is HORSEMEAT SALAMI.Horsemeat costs more that beef, pork etc and one has to specifically buy it for what it is. It is not bunged in willy nilly to make up fillings. Please stop talking through your nose. I am being very polite here! Mairi.
PS, I know because I live in Italy (23 years).
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Sorry, its a serious subject , but the phrase 'willy-nilly' in conjunction with salami has put me straight in snigger mode! Cue the Benny Hill music- oh dear.
 
Mairi said:
mtj said:
If you eaten Chorizo or Italian sausage you've probably already munched an equine![/QUOTE
I am so sick of hearing this claptrap. Italian salami and Italian sausages do NOT contain horsemeat. Horsemeat is NOT used in sausages and there is no horsemeat in salami unless it is HORSEMEAT SALAMI.Horsemeat costs more that beef, pork etc and one has to specifically buy it for what it is. It is not bunged in willy nilly to make up fillings. Please stop talking through your nose. I am being very polite here! Mairi.
PS, I know because I live in Italy (23 years).
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Mairi

Perdonate il mio imperfetto italiano scritto

I cavallo sono consumati in Italia e, talvolta, come salsiccia nelle zone rurali. Sono assolutamente aperto un vaso di Pandora con questo post - ma il soggetto aveva bisogno di una messa in onda

PS Parlando attraverso il naso è buona ma la maggior parte si parla attraverso il loro culo! ??
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fumanchu said:
I have taken several horses/ponies to Potters.

some are owned by myself, others owned by good friends who know i would do the best for the pony..by that, i would take them, wait with them till the end...knowing i would be there.

it is something that has never bothered me...
when anyone has livestock...eventually they will have deadstock.

Death is a fact of life.
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Ah, but could you then put them in a stew...
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Well, I can't believe I've actually sat here and read the whole 18 pages of this thread. I really need to go to bed...

I do eat meat, but I personally could not eat an animal that I have used as a companion. It just doesn't sit right with me in my head.

Also, regarding keeping older, retired or injured horses as field companions - Some people just cannot afford to do this. I certainly couldn't. But it was heartbreaking enough seeing my last horse go to it's new owner (he's now retired in a field where I can visit him), I think I'd probably keel over if it was the meatman who took him!
 
well here i go! it is not that easy to send a horse for meat! all you NICE owners that have signed your section 9 and sold have absolutely no control so those horses will troll the markets! and be passed around! a blank section 9 can go to turners or potters and be shot nicely and calmly! you get paid on the dead weight! once the horse is dead it is dead! doesnt matter where it goes! so get on your high horse! if you do not want your horse to enter the foreign food chain pay the price and put it down and cremate! but all you fluffy bunnies you would not sell/share loan your golden oldies you would/will find the guts and money to put them down at home! my lovelies will leave here dead one way or the other! and no they arent a part of the meat chain they are/were my life and i will pay for them to move on!
 
and yes i have eaten horse meat in hungary! very tasty! would buy horse steak if avaiable! i also eat the pheasant duck turkey goose and cockerill that i hatch and raise tho they dont have names! get a life! if you do NOT want your darling to go for meat do not try to loan share etc. bite the bullet have your horse put down! at home!
 
Blacklist said:
Mairi said:
Mairi

Perdonate il mio imperfetto italiano scritto

I cavallo sono consumati in Italia e, talvolta, come salsiccia nelle zone rurali. Sono assolutamente aperto un vaso di Pandora con questo post - ma il soggetto aveva bisogno di una messa in onda

PS Parlando attraverso il naso è buona ma la maggior parte si parla attraverso il loro culo! ??
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too true!!!
PS, your Italian is actually very good! Better than mine.
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okay so i am wayyyy to late here but an interesting post...! i am vegetarian so obviously i don't eat meat :D and don't worry i am not one of those hippy peopel forcing it on other, its my choice :D the whole people not eating horse meat is the same as English peeps don't eat dogs or cats (well most people ;) ) they just cant deal with it especially mos horse owners, the whole attachment thing !!
i just cant do the whole eating insides..eww and killing thing :) i am a little bit fussy when it comes to food :D but at the end of the day its peoples choice with what they eat so go ahead!!
 
BeckyX said:
okay so i am wayyyy to late here but an interesting post...! i am vegetarian so obviously i don't eat meat :D and don't worry i am not one of those hippy peopel forcing it on other, its my choice :D the whole people not eating horse meat is the same as English peeps don't eat dogs or cats (well most people ;) ) they just cant deal with it especially mos horse owners, the whole attachment thing !!
i just cant do the whole eating insides..eww and killing thing :) i am a little bit fussy when it comes to food :D but at the end of the day its peoples choice with what they eat so go ahead!!
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Cats and dogs are NOT considered a 'meat' or 'farm' animal in Europe
 
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