How are you managing?

My h/w is muzzled at all times when on grass, has a leaf of hay when he comes in and exercised regularly. He is currently fit and a good weight but I’m more worried about the risk of lami then I ever have been due to the incidences being through the roof this year 😣
 
Me too, the amount of people that are shocked that their horses are ill when they’ve gone onto summer grazing obese is baffling.

How can you expect them to come out of winter looking “well” and be fine to leave on summer grazing 🙈
The yard next door to me has an 8 acre mares field there are only 7 mares now and 2 of those come in during the day the others are staying out, they are all fat and one went down with laminitis last week😔
 
Mine have been in their paddock and long track road since April. I think they maybe were starting to lose some weight but they became insufferable to be in the field with as it was so bare so I have started giving them a haynet worth of hay twice a day and that’s helping with the attitude. The Lami prone 2 are Looking ok now but mine is carrying too much weight still. I’m not sure our grass is actually growing much atm either.
 
Ours go out onto grass field at about 6am and then in again at about 12. We leave their stable doors open, so they each have access to small, individual paddocks. They then have hay for the evening/nightime. Keeping a very close eye on them.
 
I switch over to a small track in summer. An acre with the track about 15 ft wide around the edge plus an old 40x20 school for loafing in and which I can put them in and shut the gate if needed. It’s been an absolute godsend as one has EMS and the other is ex laminitic and having camped out with them overnight I can’t believe how much they actually move. Apart from when they snooze under the trees they are on the go constantly looking for the odd morsel amongst the bare earth. They have two tiny sloppy feeds for supplements and once the grass really has all gone they get a tiny amount of meadow hay or high fibre haylage spread out to keep them and their guts moving. Last year was the first year they both looked slim without wearing a muzzle, out 24/7 and I will never go back to traditional grazing in the summer again.
 
I switch over to a small track in summer. An acre with the track about 15 ft wide around the edge plus an old 40x20 school for loafing in and which I can put them in and shut the gate if needed. It’s been an absolute godsend as one has EMS and the other is ex laminitic and having camped out with them overnight I can’t believe how much they actually move. Apart from when they snooze under the trees they are on the go constantly looking for the odd morsel amongst the bare earth. They have two tiny sloppy feeds for supplements and once the grass really has all gone they get a tiny amount of meadow hay or high fibre haylage spread out to keep them and their guts moving. Last year was the first year they both looked slim without wearing a muzzle, out 24/7 and I will never go back to traditional grazing in the summer again.
Having retirees, this is what I find so good about the track, but having them together, even though they now have slightly different management needs, is crucial. On their own their movement is much reduced.
 
The yard next door to me has an 8 acre mares field there are only 7 mares now and 2 of those come in during the day the others are staying out, they are all fat and one went down with laminitis last week😔
Our fields are huge (not sure on acreage) but they’re massive. Most I’ve ever seen out is 8, we have far too much grass for the amount of horses. Thankfully a lot of liveries have made wise choices and are limiting grazing, though some that haven’t have had repercussions unfortunately. Think we have 4 maybe 5 on the yard with laminitis now it’s scary
 
So obviously we are all very aware of the grass and how rich it is this year. A lot of horses coming down with laminitis, even those you wouldn’t “typically” worry about. Vets are seeing 3-5 cases a day in my area some days which is very concerning.

So my question is how are you managing your grazing? especially those with native types. Spoke with a vet yesterday after helping my friend get her mare out of the field (she couldn’t move, took 8 people an hour to get her on a box to get back to the yard) and the vet said the worst thing you can do is give them time off at this point of the year. I try to ride every day especially in summer, to keep him fit and keep his weight down but despite this he is looking porky because of the abundance of grass.

My worry is, bringing him in during the day off the grass will encourage him to stuff his face overnight when he does go out. I don’t want to leave him stood with nothing during the time he’s in because I don’t want him to get ulcers. I’ve also considered muzzling him for the time he’s out grazing too.

I’ve already lost one horse to laminitis (mid winter, EMS was the cause not grass/obesity) and I’m so worried this year. My thinking is bring in around 6am and turn out around 4pm, hun being in will also make it easier to exercise him before he goes back out. I guess my post is just asking how different people are managing successfully 🙈
A vet this morning said he nearly pts a pony with laminitis and colic last night the two life changing conditions and through the roof.



Ponies field is strip grazed both laminitics

Back fields the fields they have been on for 3 months March April May is short 4 acres and they go on their till 1.30 pm


then

out with the long grass 4 acres which rested those months from 1.30- 4pm. So far so good. Has 4 laminitics on them.
 
A vet this morning said he nearly pts a pony with laminitis and colic last night the two life changing conditions and through the roof.



Ponies field is stip grazed both laminitics

Back fields the fields they have been on for 3 months March April May is short 4 acres and they go on their till 1.30 pm then out with the long grass which rested those months from 1.30- 4pm. So far so good.
Gosh that’s scary, I couldn’t believe it when the vet I spoke to said how many cases he’d had
 
Struggling this year, after spending the last 5 years with my own track. Land was sold for housing so I'm back at livery, pony is muzzled, recently switched to daytime turnout, in at night with a tiny small holed net of haylage (not my choice, yard won't do hay) and a trug of straw to pick at. Handful of Mollichaff Light Molasses Free once a day to get supplements in her. Ridden 3-5 times a week (my own health dependant), lots of forest tracks and hills. Nowhere near where she normally would be weight wise at this time of year on the track 24/7 😣
MagOx arrived today so going to start adding that in and see if that helps at all.
So stressful trying to find the balance between enough forage to avoid ulcers but little enough to encourage weight loss. Hoping the straw trug will prove to be the answer there, as she's not keen on it but will pick if she's really hungry. Makes me feel a bit better that she at least has the option.
 
My Welsh D is carrying slightly more weight than I would like her to currently, she comes in in the day to some hay and goes out at night with a grazing muzzle on. I was expecting her to lose some weight with this but so far it's just being maintained - she is only in light work. If I need to I will soak her hay too.
 
When it rains, I think it’ll be a case of ‘you ain’t seen nothing yet’.

Worked quite hard with my traditional cob mare to have her slim before turning out full time for summer. She’s strip grazed on a small individual paddock due to hating other horses, and self regulates well unlike my prev mare who effectively I lost to lami (metabolic challenges but never truly identified the cause) who used to eat constantly and mindlessly. My mare is worked but not as much as I should, no crest, no fat pads and looks well. She has a handful of chaff and linseed to get salt and mag supplement in.

I’m scared about the effect of the rain apparently due next week and have a backup plan for her to be in on soaked hay during the day if there is even a hint of sore feet, which I should see quickly as she is barefoot and rock crunching normally.

Scary year for lami.
 
I am having a horrible time with 3 laminitis prone ponies and way too much grass
It's costing me a fortune in hay, shavings and diesel for topping, not to mention it being a full time job with lots of little feeds, moving fences, poo picking tiny paddocks etc etc
I'm lucky in that I'm retired and have them at home; it must be a complete nightmare for people who work and have horses in livery
 
I must be stuck in some sort of parallel universe as my grass has stopped growing :(. The ground is hard with huge cracks in.

Mine are on a 2 acre track and I move the fence a bit each day, closing off what they’ve eaten. Is still really bare and short where it’s been rested. None of mine are remotely fat and still having a lot of hay.
I’m similar. No grass at all and feels like concrete. I’m not too bothered because mine don’t need it. I put loads of hay out
 
I think part of the problem is because very few people let nature take its course any more. Ponies were always leaner in the winter because there was little good stuff to eat which meant they could take the spring grass well. These days they are fed all winter and kept at a covered/well covered weight so they can't take a single blade of grass come spring.
 
I think part of the problem is because very few people let nature take its course any more. Ponies were always leaner in the winter because there was little good stuff to eat which meant they could take the spring grass well. These days they are fed all winter and kept at a covered/well covered weight so they can't take a single blade of grass come spring.
I prefer to see ribs in march. Not hatrack obviously, in case that needed saying, but I would prefer to be able to see the definition of some ribs. There’s a period of about 3 weeks in march at coat change time where mine looks a little bit crap - if I’ve done my job right. The easiest way to achieve this is to reduce rug weights throughout winter.
 
Our three, two laminitic ponies aged 22 and 16 and my Qtr x App also 22, lived out all winter on 14 acres sharing with around 30 sheep. They had tiny feeds twice a day with their supplements in but no hay. For once all 3 lost weight and for the first time I think ever my sister could see ribs on her two. Mine got a bit too lean so moved onto slightly better grazing and the ponies moved onto their summer paddock which was already grazed off by sheep. They are now getting a slice of hay twice daily while my mare gets a small feed and a handful of hay. The ponies are still looking slim, the welsh especially. My mare is now nicely covered but not fat.
Keeping our fingers crossed that we can maintain their weight as it is now.
 
I think part of the problem is because very few people let nature take its course any more. Ponies were always leaner in the winter because there was little good stuff to eat which meant they could take the spring grass well. These days they are fed all winter and kept at a covered/well covered weight so they can't take a single blade of grass come spring.
Definitely. Far too many over fed and over rugged that cop for it in summer. I won’t be making the mistake of fully clipping this winter, therefore no need to rug. He’ll have his chest off if he gets sweaty and that’s it, mine only gets a balanced and calmer anyway
 
Our three, two laminitic ponies aged 22 and 16 and my Qtr x App also 22, lived out all winter on 14 acres sharing with around 30 sheep. They had tiny feeds twice a day with their supplements in but no hay. For once all 3 lost weight and for the first time I think ever my sister could see ribs on her two. Mine got a bit too lean so moved onto slightly better grazing and the ponies moved onto their summer paddock which was already grazed off by sheep. They are now getting a slice of hay twice daily while my mare gets a small feed and a handful of hay. The ponies are still looking slim, the welsh especially. My mare is now nicely covered but not fat.
Keeping our fingers crossed that we can maintain their weight as it is now.
We have sheep on ours all year round, does this benefit grazing for the horses? As in, do the sheep graze off the goodness/sugars at all?
 
Bringing in at 7 in the morning, back out at 9 in the evening. Soaked small haynets regularly through the day, and turned out in muzzles. One feed of oat straw with a tiny bit of fast fibre so I can add salt, mag ox and Lamipro to their feeds. One EMS pony, who has visible ribs, but has fat pads on rump and cresty neck, which we never can seem to get rid of. Was footsore after a trim (barefoot) which triggered the lami panic mode, so kept in off the grass for a few days. Now sound but will need constant monitoring. Will be going out tonight in a muzzle and will start exercising regularly again - thinking of riding twice a day. Just a nightmare! Thinking of contacting the Trinity Consultants and looking at their supplements to support our boy. Our fields are old meadow ground, lots of different species of grass which I thought was better than rye! Am trying to encourage the Yorks Fog grasses to spread as I read its better for Lami ponies. Alot of their field is Although we used to strip graze, it killed the ground and I suspect my boy would just be through the fence every five mins, so we are muzzled which I hate but I hate lami more.....
 
Definitely. Far too many over fed and over rugged that cop for it in summer. I won’t be making the mistake of fully clipping this winter, therefore no need to rug. He’ll have his chest off if he gets sweaty and that’s it, mine only gets a balanced and calmer anyway
I have a little native who was unclipped and unrugged through most of winter (rain sheet if I was riding). Even through that minus 14 spell in Dec.

She didn't drop weight 🙄 Seemed to just grow a thicker coat.

Neighbour asked if she was in foal again. Just a food baby...
 
Mine have been in their paddock and long track road since April. I think they maybe were starting to lose some weight but they became insufferable to be in the field with as it was so bare so I have started giving them a haynet worth of hay twice a day and that’s helping with the attitude. The Lami prone 2 are Looking ok now but mine is carrying too much weight still. I’m not sure our grass is actually growing much atm either.
I'm going to sound like a fool here but I didn't realise you needed to worry about laminitis on the islands. I always thought that yours was the dream grazing for good doers.
 
I'm totally panicking as I've come down with covid for the first time ever - wow, it is AWFUL. I'm only on day 4. I'm totally floored - normally average 15 000 steps per day, now so weak - and don't have help.

And my cob now is the biggest I've ever seen him, he's just ballooned, he's only out on grass 6 hours 4 x a week but he was too good coming out of winter. I've managed ok the past 7 years but things have gone badly wrong this year. There has been issues out of my control.

I was exercising every day, it wasn't great but felt like things were at least static.

Need to get better asap and get him out long in-hand walks, it's all I can think about. I can't anticipate when I'll be ok to do this.

I will be having him staying in when it eventually rains, thankful still dry.

Loathe to use muzzles I know he'll be furious and hate it - but should I be trying this? Any recommendations?

I've read about the Flexible Filly but realistically I suspect there is a high chance he will have whatever I get him off. Pink and white muzzle, easily gets rubs.
 
Our fields are huge (not sure on acreage) but they’re massive. Most I’ve ever seen out is 8, we have far too much grass for the amount of horses. Thankfully a lot of liveries have made wise choices and are limiting grazing, though some that haven’t have had repercussions unfortunately. Think we have 4 maybe 5 on the yard with laminitis now it’s scary
Thats what's happened next door there were about 10 mares out there previously but after winter 1 was pts and the others moved, so now they have less horses on a very big field and too much grass, I can't believe some horses are on it continuously and looking fat.
 
Loathe to use muzzles I know he'll be furious and hate it - but should I be trying this? Any recommendations?

I've read about the Flexible Filly but realistically I suspect there is a high chance he will have whatever I get him off. Pink and white muzzle, easily gets rubs.
He'll be more upset if he gets laminitis and has to be stuck in his stable 24/7.

I thought my boy would hate his, but he took to it very easily. He wore a Thinline muzzle and Ultimate muzzle with no rubbing (mine also has a pink and white muzzle, and spent much more time on grass than yours does). You just have to make sure you buy a size large enough to allow him to chew without rubbing his chin, and you might need a fly mask as well to make it harder for him to remove the muzzle.
 
I think part of the problem is because very few people let nature take its course any more. Ponies were always leaner in the winter because there was little good stuff to eat which meant they could take the spring grass well. These days they are fed all winter and kept at a covered/well covered weight so they can't take a single blade of grass come spring.
Definitely, I've had a few people comment how much better my cob looks now & that he looked a bit poor a couple of months ago. Trying to explain its my management plan is hard work.
His ribs were just visible as he moved, he was fit & doing long (8 mileish) rides a couple of times a week, full of energy & certainly not skeletal.
It's been lovely allowing him to strip graze into long grass & allowing him to gain a few pounds.
 
All I can say is thank heavens for old girls that have an off button. As they're older it's less easy to keep weight on, so they're out 24/7 on a too-small field that they'll eat down then get supplemented with hay. One meal a day, they don't get breakfast at all and never have. They are very much an anomaly at the yard, most are roly polys.
 
I'm going to sound like a fool here but I didn't realise you needed to worry about laminitis on the islands. I always thought that yours was the dream grazing for good doers.
Not at all foolish ☺️. In shetland it is brilliant grazing for ponies but here in Orkney we have quite a bit of decent grazing for cattle and it’s much flatter than the shetland isles. There’s some good horse grazing here but mostly it’s been farmed for beef cattle and sheep.
 
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