How much did this cost??????

9tails said:
Your reply made me laugh, I got it immediately. Hoofpicker21 obviously didn't.

If any animal needs rescuing from danger, be it farm, wild or pet, then resources are there to help. I really can't understand OP's attitude that the pony should have been ignored to starve or plunge to its death.
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I did not say any of these things... I merely believe with all the tragedy and issues in this country, this could have been dealt with more effectively... Not everyone has to agree.
 
HoofPicker21 said:
I did not say any of these things... I merely believe with all the tragedy and issues in this country, this could have been dealt with more effectively... Not everyone has to agree.
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You still haven't said how? And how much more efficient economically your idea would have been? Also, are you in receipt of the logistics and full details of the incident in order to make that judgement? We don't know what the geography was like, or positioning of the pony. Perhaps it would have taken just as many resources in order to position anyone to humanely and safely destroy the pony, by which point they may as well have just rescued it. Plus, it is also and extremely good training exercise, as others have said.
 
HoofPicker21 said:
I did not say any of these things... I merely believe with all the tragedy and issues in this country, this could have been dealt with more effectively... Not everyone has to agree.
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By taking a potshot at the poor blighter? God forbid you're ever in a position of authority.
 
Evaluating 'cost' would be a bit pointless, as it probably only actually cost the travelling expenses of those involved, and other out of pocket expenses, as those rescuers who are retained were being paid anyway, pony or no pony.

From the viewpoint of the pony, to have shot the poor little sod would probably have been the more humane outcome, but as others have suggested, as a training exercise, and moving the bulk and weight of an animal which probably weighed 250kgs +, I would have said that it was an invaluable exercise, and the rescue teams are now better prepared for similar situations, but involving humans.

Had the pony been mine, and considering its predicament and situation, then unless I'd been specifically asked by those of the rescue teams who wanted the animal as a facility, I would have shot the poor little sod. The animal appears to have been anaesthetised, and there would have been fairly serious risk attached to anyone attempting to get an IV line in, assuming that the animal was actually wild, or feral.

Anyway, it's done, the pony lives, some will be lauded as heroes or idiots, depending on one's standpoint, and I fail to see what all the fuss is about!

Alec.
 
I could go through the news and pick out some rescued fool who did something stupid and needed rescuing, or ended up in hospital needing extensive treatment and go... REALLY and how much did this cost??

The animal didn't ask to end in the situation it did!

Just for the record, What DID you mean and what Would you do?
 
HoofPicker21 said:
No sorry that is not what I said or meant at all.

BUT the cost to rescue a wild pony, that could end up in the next cull...
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Who said it was wild? It went over a seacliff. Dartmoor is nowhere near the sea so it was hardly likely to be rounded up and culled. I'd rather my taxes went on that than picking up all the drugs and druggies on Friday and Saturday nights and transporting to and treating them in A&E. I had to wait 5 hours in A&E having been knocked off my bike one morning because all the drunks got priority "in case" they had head injuries. The rescue services benefit from the training, because there will always be another and another and another, and are decent human beings who like happy endings.
 
fatpiggy said:
Who said it was wild? It went over a seacliff. Dartmoor is nowhere near the sea so it was hardly likely to be rounded up and culled. I'd rather my taxes went on that than picking up all the drugs and druggies on Friday and Saturday nights and transporting to and treating them in A&E. I had to wait 5 hours in A&E having been knocked off my bike one morning because all the drunks got priority "in case" they had head injuries. The rescue services benefit from the training, because there will always be another and another and another, and are decent human beings who like happy endings.
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Err, the news report said its wild...
 
HoofPicker21 said:
So because I think it would have been better to destroy the pony rather than spend thousands that makes me inhumane..ok.
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How? Surely the cost of someone coming to shoot it and then a team to remove the body would be just as high..
I fail to understand you even though I'm trying my absolute hardest.
 
dogatemysalad said:
Blimey, what a vile attitude, OP. I feel queasy at your complete inhumanity.
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me to what a heartless tactless comment.

This pony needed help, the rescue team did what they are trained to do rescue life what ever shape or form.

For once well done RSPCA,

who knows why this pony fell, chased - scared panicked. How or why and how is immaterial how does any animal fall down a cliff, sheep dog cow. The fact is it did and needed help, I really don't understand some people.
 
dogatemysalad said:
Erm, yes.



How would you do that humanely, and retrieve the body on your minimalist budget ?
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Well namely rifle, and as for removing the body, any way than involving a vet, 6 firebrigade AND marines would be cheaper..

My opinion is my opinion if that makes me vile and inhumane, which of course you can judge from one opinion, I'm fine with that.

I don't really have anything else to say, as well as I'm about to board a plane.
 
HoofPicker21 said:
Well namely rifle, and as for removing the body, any way than involving a vet, 6 firebrigade AND marines would be cheaper..

My opinion is my opinion if that makes me vile and inhumane, which of course you can judge from one opinion, I'm fine with that.

I don't really have anything else to say, as well as I'm about to board a plane.
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Well surely it would take 6 people, maybe MORE, to move the dead weight of a horse? So the costs could be even higher.
 
To be honest I bet the costs were negligible as said it was a perfect training exercise that would have cost just the same or maybe even more to set up as a scenario. The pony just happened to stumble onto a need from the services to practice a rescue technique. So lucky pony and helpful crew sho deserve any accolade given to them
 
HoofPicker21 said:
I don't really have anything else to say, as well as I'm about to board a plane.
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lets hope its a 1 way trip................


Considering the pony survive an 80ft fall and is not too badly hurt, I think the poor little mite deserves a chance. He may even get a loving new home out of his story, hopefully. That would make it a happier ending, the rescue teams rescue all sorts of animals from falls from cliffs even cows. I fail to see how some want extinguish a life just because the poor blighter fell or may or not be wild. Many many story on the web, in the news where animals get into sticky situation or bad situation. Just for example think of Angel the blind mare from Jamie gray, her story touched thousands and she was offered at leas 20 homes.
 
Lovely story and so pleased the mare made a full recovery and was reunited with the rest of the herd. Not only does that show our armed forces have a heart it's also very good for morale for all services involved. I really do not have a problem with it, after all the cost was probably not even as much as what a top footballer would get paid for 10 minutes.

I don't think the OP is vile and inhumane, they just have a different opinion that to some may sound harsh, but it was a statement that was bound to create controversy and drama on here.
 
HoofPicker21 said:
Well namely rifle, and as for removing the body, any way than involving a vet, 6 firebrigade AND marines would be cheaper..You haven't thought this through have you ? Still need a vet to put the horse down. Still need to remove the body with the expertise of fire brigade/marines. Then there would be the additional expense of disposal, instead of reuniting pony with its herd. The euthanasia and disposal cost would not be covered and if no owner was found, the charge would be the responsibility of the local council.

My opinion is my opinion if that makes me vile and inhumane, which of course you can judge from one opinion, I'm fine with that.
Actually, I said your attitude is vile and that you showed complete inhumanity. I don't know you, so couldn't possibly say what type of person you are. There is a difference.

I don't really have anything else to say, as well as I'm about to board a plane.
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I thought the rescue story was lovely, so thanks for the link.
 
Dunlin said:
... it was a statement that was bound to create controversy and drama on here.
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Originally Posted by HoofPicker21 View Post

I don't really have anything else to say, as well as I'm about to board a plane.

It must be spring...troll migration season?! Reminder: Please do not feed the trolls" ;)
 
Perhaps OP is an out of work sniper, and this apparently innocent pony is in truth a highly paid events manager in disguise?

Glad it was a happy ending. Not enough of those around, imo.
 
suffolkmare said:
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Originally Posted by HoofPicker21 View Post

I don't really have anything else to say, as well as I'm about to board a plane.

It must be spring...troll migration season?! Reminder: Please do not feed the trolls" ;)
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well that didn't take long.

cleanly I am not a troll, do your home work next time love.
or does as others have said, mean having an opinion that differs from you all?? if so guess I am then!!!

as for the other clever comments, ha ha ha
 
Dunlin said:
Lovely story and so pleased the mare made a full recovery and was reunited with the rest of the herd. Not only does that show our armed forces have a heart it's also very good for morale for all services involved. I really do not have a problem with it, after all the cost was probably not even as much as what a top footballer would get paid for 10 minutes.
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Quite! I fully agree.

I don't think the OP is vile and inhumane, they just have a different opinion that to some may sound harsh, but it was a statement that was bound to create controversy and drama on here.
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Even a touch of hysteria.
 
To me it is a heartwarming story. We could all sit here and spout forth about how wrong the social imbalances of the world are. Why should animals be such a low priority? Animals to me are so reliant on a decent owner or carer and we as race destroy their habitats, often abuse them as pets, overbreed, cage and restrict them to name but a few.

So many thousands of pounds spent on a native pony rescue - brilliant and why not? We don't judge the humans rescued from all sorts of situations often brought on by themselves.
 
I think the reason most don't like OP, first post is the fact that it came over to me and most probably others. That its destruction would have been better and cheaper rather than a rescue. No one knows for sure if this pony is 100% wild or a family pet which is un broken. Regardless of this, the pony is a life however the form she is and her saviours thought her life worth saving. Its not that you have a different opinion but you could have worded it better instead of of saying "how much did this cost" as if that is all that matters in the situation.

Some of us think the work the Marines and the RNLI- firefighters and other such Organization is amazing and support their work and these organizations think any life is worth saving, albeit a little Dartmoor pony or a world class show horse. Firefighters have rescue many a dog or cat from house fire these are more superior just because they have an owner? If the pony was injured or in pain the situation would have been dealt with in another way.

The OP came across as uncaring and posted for a reaction, whether it was the reaction they wanted or not is a mystery. I cannot really think they expected us all to believe this ponies life to be wasted because it had the misfortune to fall. A cull is a controlled situation for reducing numbers of a species not an accident which is followed by a rescue.
 
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