cheeky girl
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I know it's good to disagree sometimes and it passes the time till I can go and ride
How much do you trust product recommendations given on the forum?
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Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
Don't mince your words Cheeky Girl - say what you really mean!
And enlighten those of us afflicted by cynicism - exactly how does coligone work on your horse?
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And enlighten those of us afflicted by cynicism - exactly how does coligone work on your horse?
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druid
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Or even from Acidex, Gaviscons cheaper twin....
zigzag
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What is coligone? and what have I missed?
miller
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Not very often I post - we tried Coligone for OH's stressy, seasony chestnut mare who had been down regumate and marble route in the past. She used to suffer from stressy colic - would wind herself up to the point of sweating copiously (puddling around her feet) and showing colic syptoms. She never went into a full blown colic - normally would settle after a sachet of bute syringed down her. She was also extremely tight behind the saddle whilst in season (we had previously tried homeopathic Sepia for this to some success)
We decided to try Coligone after having read some positive feedback on here and figured we 'should' know before the bottle ran out if it had worked.
This was last September time - she now has half a scoop of the liquid daily in her tea and 'touch wood' has never had a stressy colic since. She also has been far less mareish (that may be because she is in a better routine now but seems unlikely as she is 13 now and had been mareish all her life) Even the vet has noticed how much better she is - used to be known as "the mad chestnut cow!"
Now it may all be coincidential but a bottle lasts us about 2 months so to us it's not worth taking her off it!
(Oh I'm definitely not paid to market it or have any link to the manufacturere - wish I did I'd have earnt a fortune! My horse doesn't have it - doesn't need to be any more laid back!
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We decided to try Coligone after having read some positive feedback on here and figured we 'should' know before the bottle ran out if it had worked.
This was last September time - she now has half a scoop of the liquid daily in her tea and 'touch wood' has never had a stressy colic since. She also has been far less mareish (that may be because she is in a better routine now but seems unlikely as she is 13 now and had been mareish all her life) Even the vet has noticed how much better she is - used to be known as "the mad chestnut cow!"
Now it may all be coincidential but a bottle lasts us about 2 months so to us it's not worth taking her off it!
(Oh I'm definitely not paid to market it or have any link to the manufacturere - wish I did I'd have earnt a fortune! My horse doesn't have it - doesn't need to be any more laid back!
cheeky girl
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I need to give H's Mum a kick up the bum as I actually did a video for her of my mare without Coligone, then gave it for her for two weeks and again videoed the results and she was going to put it on her website. I did it on an really old borrowed camcorder though so I think she's having trouble putting it onto a DVD.
Before was pulling faces at everything that dared go within 3 ft of her. Tacking her up, she'd kick at you, her belly, pull faces. Feed time she'd fly around stable bitting walls, kicking out then you'd give feed and vacate stable quickly otherwise she'd kick you. Nappy to ride and leave yard.
Afterwards stands with her ears forward while your tacking her up, no nonsense at feed time, I can be in her stable while she eates, and is much happier to ride
She needs a syringe a day though so costs me about a tenner a week.
edited to add I'm sure H's Mum is busy with her new baby not bothered about playing videos. She also didn't ask me to do it, I did it off my own back as I couldn't believe the difference
Before was pulling faces at everything that dared go within 3 ft of her. Tacking her up, she'd kick at you, her belly, pull faces. Feed time she'd fly around stable bitting walls, kicking out then you'd give feed and vacate stable quickly otherwise she'd kick you. Nappy to ride and leave yard.
Afterwards stands with her ears forward while your tacking her up, no nonsense at feed time, I can be in her stable while she eates, and is much happier to ride
She needs a syringe a day though so costs me about a tenner a week.
edited to add I'm sure H's Mum is busy with her new baby not bothered about playing videos. She also didn't ask me to do it, I did it off my own back as I couldn't believe the difference
kirstyfk
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I had spending money on worthless items so make sure I have researched everything before I buy it. But HHO is fantastic at getting ideas.
Re H's Mum: when she first came on here she was just developing the product she has worked very hard to get were she is now and I think the reason it is recommend so often is because it works.
Re H's Mum: when she first came on here she was just developing the product she has worked very hard to get were she is now and I think the reason it is recommend so often is because it works.
JessPickle
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I would consider some things people put on here, like the home made fly sprays etc. A lot of the time though I will try and speak to my instructor/experienced YO for advise.
I think the funniest ones are those coming from people who actually dont really know much. Someone commented about a month ago on someones jumping position over a HUGE jump! it wasnt too bad at all, then you look at there videos of them being thrown foward going over 1ft and I really do wonder!
I think the funniest ones are those coming from people who actually dont really know much. Someone commented about a month ago on someones jumping position over a HUGE jump! it wasnt too bad at all, then you look at there videos of them being thrown foward going over 1ft and I really do wonder!
flyingfeet
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Product recommendations are an interesting area
There is a whole list of products that I consider totally pointless for sweet itch and yet others swear by them.
Also people can change their minds on things - for example I have gone from loving to hating one of my wow saddles.
Then you get people like me who would flog you anything given half a chance - however if you ask for an honest opinion you'll get one. Told a customer this morning I thought a bonnet that comes with one of our sweet itch rugs was rubbish.... really should keep quiet sometimes.
There is a whole list of products that I consider totally pointless for sweet itch and yet others swear by them.
Also people can change their minds on things - for example I have gone from loving to hating one of my wow saddles.
Then you get people like me who would flog you anything given half a chance - however if you ask for an honest opinion you'll get one. Told a customer this morning I thought a bonnet that comes with one of our sweet itch rugs was rubbish.... really should keep quiet sometimes.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
I'm sure you believe it worked...but anecdotal (or even video) evidence of one horse isn't really clinical proof is it?
And how do you know it isn't psychological - you believe it works so focus on the things that confirm your belief?
Like faith healing. If your first 'two weeks' coincided with her season, but her second didn't, for example...
I'm glad your horse is improving...but I'm still not happy with the level of evidence.
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And how do you know it isn't psychological - you believe it works so focus on the things that confirm your belief?
Like faith healing. If your first 'two weeks' coincided with her season, but her second didn't, for example...
I'm glad your horse is improving...but I'm still not happy with the level of evidence.
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LauraBR
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I think the funniest ones are those coming from people who actually dont really know much. Someone commented about a month ago on someones jumping position over a HUGE jump! it wasnt too bad at all, then you look at there videos of them being thrown foward going over 1ft and I really do wonder!
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Oh, I totally agree!
I think it is a shame H's mum is getting such a roasting on this thread. I remember regularly posting about my VERY grass colic prone horse on here years ago (before the days of coligone) and she was always an understanding knowledgable and friendly source of advice and support.
I remember when the product was launched, all the posts about the hard work, the pride, the excitement. I think it is absolutely fantastic how well she has done. Can't remember any posts where she has implemented a ruthless HHO marketing campaign either?
I think the funniest ones are those coming from people who actually dont really know much. Someone commented about a month ago on someones jumping position over a HUGE jump! it wasnt too bad at all, then you look at there videos of them being thrown foward going over 1ft and I really do wonder!
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Oh, I totally agree!
I think it is a shame H's mum is getting such a roasting on this thread. I remember regularly posting about my VERY grass colic prone horse on here years ago (before the days of coligone) and she was always an understanding knowledgable and friendly source of advice and support.
I remember when the product was launched, all the posts about the hard work, the pride, the excitement. I think it is absolutely fantastic how well she has done. Can't remember any posts where she has implemented a ruthless HHO marketing campaign either?
SirenaXVI
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I think the funniest ones are those coming from people who actually dont really know much. Someone commented about a month ago on someones jumping position over a HUGE jump! it wasnt too bad at all, then you look at there videos of them being thrown foward going over 1ft and I really do wonder!
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Hmmmmm have to agree with you there
I think the funniest ones are those coming from people who actually dont really know much. Someone commented about a month ago on someones jumping position over a HUGE jump! it wasnt too bad at all, then you look at there videos of them being thrown foward going over 1ft and I really do wonder!
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Hmmmmm have to agree with you there
JustKickOn
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I believe some things, but still look into the product /matter /whatever.
the watcher
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I think it is a shame H's mum is getting such a roasting on this thread. I remember regularly posting about my VERY grass colic prone horse on here years ago (before the days of coligone) and she was always an understanding knowledgable and friendly source of advice and support.
I remember when the product was launched, all the posts about the hard work, the pride, the excitement. I think it is absolutely fantastic how well she has done. Can't remember any posts where she has implemented a ruthless HHO marketing campaign either?
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No, I agree that she has done well and there clearly is a market, my horse simply didn't like it and there are many helpful posts here about feeding regimes that will minimise the effects of ulcers and the like. So the whole colic question is balanced out from various sources.
I think the posts that rave about a product with few preceding posts are the ones to watch - that odd chap from Cheltenham springs to mind.
I think it is a shame H's mum is getting such a roasting on this thread. I remember regularly posting about my VERY grass colic prone horse on here years ago (before the days of coligone) and she was always an understanding knowledgable and friendly source of advice and support.
I remember when the product was launched, all the posts about the hard work, the pride, the excitement. I think it is absolutely fantastic how well she has done. Can't remember any posts where she has implemented a ruthless HHO marketing campaign either?
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No, I agree that she has done well and there clearly is a market, my horse simply didn't like it and there are many helpful posts here about feeding regimes that will minimise the effects of ulcers and the like. So the whole colic question is balanced out from various sources.
I think the posts that rave about a product with few preceding posts are the ones to watch - that odd chap from Cheltenham springs to mind.
Baggybreeches
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If you want to know about a particular product,you can be sure to get a whole load of opinions from here really quickly, I was actually talking about HHO forum to our local feed rep, because It helped me hugely with ideas when I first got Sov. But then I am quite cynical and do a lot of research aswell.
happihorse
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I usually already have my eye on something before asking peoples opinions on HHO. I find it really useful to find out about other people practical experience of the product (eg whether or not bedding is really dust free!)
I wouldn't buy something based solely on HHO opinions, but find peoples help and suggestions invaluable.
I wouldn't buy something based solely on HHO opinions, but find peoples help and suggestions invaluable.
miller
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It's like the magnetic headpiece post the other week - I highly rate them as they work brilliantly on my horse - a friend really didn't notice any difference.
Same with supplements - some swear by cortaflex others haven't noticed a difference
Think the thing is to take on the pro's cons and then take the risk yourself
Same with supplements - some swear by cortaflex others haven't noticed a difference
Think the thing is to take on the pro's cons and then take the risk yourself
Weezy
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For those that want to rubbish Coligone without even having tried it - go ahead, I am sure Hs Mum will lose little sleep over that. My main problem is people rubbishing things without even trying them. Hs Mum has NEVER stated in ANY of her posts or marketing that Coligone is better than anything else, she has worked very hard to develop a product that she believes in. Many vets around the country agree that her product works, and the results speak for themselves. Sure, not all horses take to it, but show me a product that is infallible.
Oh and for the record, yes Hs Mum is a dear friend, and yes I have been alongside her throughout her journey with Coligone. However I have no financial gain out of recommending it!
Oh and for the record, yes Hs Mum is a dear friend, and yes I have been alongside her throughout her journey with Coligone. However I have no financial gain out of recommending it!
ihatework
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I think some people need to go back and read the posts that I and possibly others made.
At no point did I say it didn't work? At no point did I rubbish the product? In fact I said I might possibly use it if I ever had a horse with the problems it is marketed at.
All I did was say from an objective point of view (and this stands for most suppliments on the market, not just coligone) that a list of ingrediants on the website, and a description of the coligone mode of action would greatly enhance it's credibility for me. A controlled trial would be great but probably not cost efficient at this stage. H's mum is obviously a good business woman so I am sure she won't loose sleep over my comments and possibly might take them on board ...
At no point did I say it didn't work? At no point did I rubbish the product? In fact I said I might possibly use it if I ever had a horse with the problems it is marketed at.
All I did was say from an objective point of view (and this stands for most suppliments on the market, not just coligone) that a list of ingrediants on the website, and a description of the coligone mode of action would greatly enhance it's credibility for me. A controlled trial would be great but probably not cost efficient at this stage. H's mum is obviously a good business woman so I am sure she won't loose sleep over my comments and possibly might take them on board ...
TGM
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I think the posts that rave about a product with few preceding posts are the ones to watch - that odd chap from Cheltenham springs to mind.
[/ QUOTE ] Indeed! Some commercial posters are slightly more subtle though and will post a few 'general' posts but if you check through their posting history they mention the same product time and time and time again (ie in well over 50% of posts). To be honest, I personally don't have a problem with someone responding to a question saying "I sell X brand, that might help your horse", but what I do think is deceitful is when people pretend it is an independent recommendation and say something like "I tried X brand on my horse and it worked brilliantly" when really they have a commercial interest.
It is up to us to do our homework (like checking post history) to avoid getting duped!
I think the posts that rave about a product with few preceding posts are the ones to watch - that odd chap from Cheltenham springs to mind.
[/ QUOTE ] Indeed! Some commercial posters are slightly more subtle though and will post a few 'general' posts but if you check through their posting history they mention the same product time and time and time again (ie in well over 50% of posts). To be honest, I personally don't have a problem with someone responding to a question saying "I sell X brand, that might help your horse", but what I do think is deceitful is when people pretend it is an independent recommendation and say something like "I tried X brand on my horse and it worked brilliantly" when really they have a commercial interest.
It is up to us to do our homework (like checking post history) to avoid getting duped!
clipclop
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I would consider some things people put on here, like the home made fly sprays etc. A lot of the time though I will try and speak to my instructor/experienced YO for advise.
I think the funniest ones are those coming from people who actually dont really know much. Someone commented about a month ago on someones jumping position over a HUGE jump! it wasnt too bad at all, then you look at there videos of them being thrown foward going over 1ft and I really do wonder!
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I will have to disagree with you there.
I know of several people who are not fantastic riders themselves but who have a fabulous eye on the ground.
I know some people who have had lessons with world class riders who have walked away learning nothing.
Just because you are a great rider does not make you a great set of eyes for the ground and vice versa.
BTW I am both useless on the ground and on board a horse. PMSL!
I would consider some things people put on here, like the home made fly sprays etc. A lot of the time though I will try and speak to my instructor/experienced YO for advise.
I think the funniest ones are those coming from people who actually dont really know much. Someone commented about a month ago on someones jumping position over a HUGE jump! it wasnt too bad at all, then you look at there videos of them being thrown foward going over 1ft and I really do wonder!
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I will have to disagree with you there.
I know of several people who are not fantastic riders themselves but who have a fabulous eye on the ground.
I know some people who have had lessons with world class riders who have walked away learning nothing.
Just because you are a great rider does not make you a great set of eyes for the ground and vice versa.
BTW I am both useless on the ground and on board a horse. PMSL!
SpottedCat
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Ooo, I have been repeatedly recommending the neue schule bitting helpline recently, I'm not in it for the money, honest!
I will ask for people's experiences of a product, but in general I am a cynic!
I will ask for people's experiences of a product, but in general I am a cynic!
TGM
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Ooo, I have been repeatedly recommending the neue schule bitting helpline recently, I'm not in it for the money, honest!
[/ QUOTE ] LOL! I'm the same with the old Power Phaser flyspray! But a look at both our posting histories reveal they don't make up the bulk of our postings
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It's a shame when the activities of a minority make us suspicious of genuine posters
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Ooo, I have been repeatedly recommending the neue schule bitting helpline recently, I'm not in it for the money, honest!
[/ QUOTE ] LOL! I'm the same with the old Power Phaser flyspray! But a look at both our posting histories reveal they don't make up the bulk of our postings
It's a shame when the activities of a minority make us suspicious of genuine posters
Honeypots
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Ooo, I have been repeatedly recommending the neue schule bitting helpline recently, I'm not in it for the money, honest!
[/ QUOTE ] LOL! I'm the same with the old Power Phaser flyspray! But a look at both our posting histories reveal they don't make up the bulk of our postings
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It's a shame when the activities of a minority make us suspicious of genuine posters
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Not just me then...feeling a bit paranoid about always recommending Net Tex Sweet Itch Salve Complete...
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Ooo, I have been repeatedly recommending the neue schule bitting helpline recently, I'm not in it for the money, honest!
[/ QUOTE ] LOL! I'm the same with the old Power Phaser flyspray! But a look at both our posting histories reveal they don't make up the bulk of our postings
It's a shame when the activities of a minority make us suspicious of genuine posters
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Not just me then...feeling a bit paranoid about always recommending Net Tex Sweet Itch Salve Complete...
the watcher
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Oh and for the record, yes Hs Mum is a dear friend, and yes I have been alongside her throughout her journey with Coligone. However I have no financial gain out of recommending it!
Going to have to call you on that one Weezy, not even a discount (ie wholesale) in return for advertising?
Going to have to call you on that one Weezy, not even a discount (ie wholesale) in return for advertising?
Weezy
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I get absolutely NOTHING for recommending the product and I feel very aggrieved that anyone would think otherwise
In fact I am positively spitting at that comment. I have had some products at wholesale (less than £100 worth), but I have given many hours of my time supporting the product at events, proof reading and giving support, all unpaid. I have never, and absolutely NEVER would *advertise* for money, what a horrible thing to suggest. I recommend the product if someone on here asks for suggestions re: windsucking, because it has worked for ME. If it hadn't have worked for me, friend or not, I would not pass on the fact I think it is good.
In fact I am positively spitting at that comment. I have had some products at wholesale (less than £100 worth), but I have given many hours of my time supporting the product at events, proof reading and giving support, all unpaid. I have never, and absolutely NEVER would *advertise* for money, what a horrible thing to suggest. I recommend the product if someone on here asks for suggestions re: windsucking, because it has worked for ME. If it hadn't have worked for me, friend or not, I would not pass on the fact I think it is good.
spaniel
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Ditto Weezy and I think it is naive of Shilasdair (sp - sorry) to expect a self financed product to give away too much on a website.
If you are interested in the ingredients Im sure kate would be more than delighted to talk you through the product and how it works. I suggest you email her for advice.
I amongst many others have found Coligone to be very effective. And yes I count Kate as a friend too but wouldnt plug a product just because someone I knew was involved with it.
If you are interested in the ingredients Im sure kate would be more than delighted to talk you through the product and how it works. I suggest you email her for advice.
I amongst many others have found Coligone to be very effective. And yes I count Kate as a friend too but wouldnt plug a product just because someone I knew was involved with it.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
I think you've rather missed the point re Coligone and other such products....
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vicijp
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I think you are full of sh#t.
Sooty
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Re H's Mum: when she first came on here she was just developing the product she has worked very hard to get were she is now and I think the reason it is recommend so often is because it works.
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Just to put the record straight (if it hasn't already been done), H's Mum was a member on here for years before the development of Coligone. It was her own distressing experiences of owning a mare who suffered from colic every time she was on grass that led her down the route of trying to find a solution.
Re H's Mum: when she first came on here she was just developing the product she has worked very hard to get were she is now and I think the reason it is recommend so often is because it works.
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Just to put the record straight (if it hasn't already been done), H's Mum was a member on here for years before the development of Coligone. It was her own distressing experiences of owning a mare who suffered from colic every time she was on grass that led her down the route of trying to find a solution.