How much should I offer for my nightmare liveries horse?

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I have a girl on my yard who NEVER comes to see her horse - she went on holiday for 2 weeks and didnt tell anyone leaving her 3 day week sharer (very novice) in control and no "what to do in an emergency" note or text - I have posted about her before.

Her pony is a nightmare - he is utterly bored being dumped in the field and needs loving.

Becasue I am broke and have too many horses as it is, I have offered to buy said pony from her - the idea being he earns his keep with the sharer, and I have 2 kids ready and waiting to share him too - so costs should be covered, and ultimately the responsibility will lie with me, meaning I can look after him and the stress of worrying that he is not looked after goes, as well as the daily calls from other liveries telling me their is something else wrong with the pony. The care he is not receiving is basic things like he had one shoe on for 3 weeks/needs to be rugged/groomed/needs saddle that fits/need schooling & riding/needs to be pennned in to ultra electric area as he has rubber coat and keeps trashing fence.

I know I am mad but how much would you offer?

He is 14.2hh 10 year old gelding, needs riding and schooling, not great to hack (tanks off with novice rider/bucks/naps) not great to school (its not done) and not great to jump (doesnt do it)

I am really selling him aren't I? Golly!
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Ask yourself if you really want the responsibilty. He doesn't sound great as a kids pony - unless they are decent little jockeys - and as owner you might find yourself liable if he hurts one of them. That said, he might just be thoroughly bored and in discomfort which is why he behaves like this. Are you prepared to put some work in to get him right?
 
Sounds like he is going to be a difficult ride for the sharers to cope with and you will need to put quite a bit of work into him. I would suggest a really low price to be honest 300-500 pounds, as I don't think he is really sellable in the current climate.
 
Offer as little as possible! I would say £250 to start at and go to a max of £500 really.

He might come really nice with some love and affection and a bit more work with someone knowledgeable.

Fwiw I think hs sounds a great older kids pony, something to teach them not everything is a push button ride. I wonder if the tanking off issue would be solved with more work and more suitable tack too
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Ask yourself if you really want the responsibilty. He doesn't sound great as a kids pony - unless they are decent little jockeys - and as owner you might find yourself liable if he hurts one of them. That said, he might just be thoroughly bored and in discomfort which is why he behaves like this. Are you prepared to put some work in to get him right?

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I completely agree with this. I beleive he needs a consistent routine (not just riding, but being 'done' properly every day) as well as a firmer hand when riding - beleive it or not the kids are quite good at this, and it would give me scope to get involved.

Hmmmm.

I was thinking somewhere in the region of £300 which I think is a fair price!

Not really sure what else to do with her, I want to evict her but dont want to pass on the headache to some other poor yard owner - it is a complete nightmare.
 
Will this pony really make a good kids pony? are you just buying it because you feel sorry for it (we can all be guilty of that one
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) would you really go out of your way to buy the pony if it was for sale and the owner was managing the pony correctly and riding it on a regular basis?

Guess all I'm saying is would it not be better to advise your livery to either start looking after her pony pronto and take some responsibility for it or find another yard?
 
Can I just say I think this is a lovely thing you are doing... Well done. I would love to hear about this ponies progress also, if you don't mind making the odd post about him?!?

Offer as little as possibly to start with and make sure you list everything why it should be so little and best of luck.x
 
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Can I just say I think this is a lovely thing you are doing... Well done. I would love to hear about this ponies progress also, if you don't mind making the odd post about him?!?

Offer as little as possibly to start with and make sure you list everything why it should be so little and best of luck.x

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Ditto - Would really love to hear if you buy this Pony and how he progresses with you.
 
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Can I just say I think this is a lovely thing you are doing... Well done. I would love to hear about this ponies progress also, if you don't mind making the odd post about him?!?

Offer as little as possibly to start with and make sure you list everything why it should be so little and best of luck.x

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Ditto - Would really love to hear if you buy this Pony and how he progresses with you.

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Ahhh thank you both of you. I think I am too soft! An alternative is to loan him to someone else...of yard
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I have seen so-called owners go and leave their horse while they were on holiday - at least this one was lucky and left in a field so it had access to water and something to eat. If I was a YO I'd have the authorities round the very next day if that happened on my place. It is wanton neglect and the pony should be removed to a place of safety immediately. When I hear of cases like this, I think they can bring in the horse tax tomorrow if it stops morons like her owning animals.
 
I'd offer to take him off her hands and agree to call it quits for the fact that it sounds like he's cost you quite a bit in fencing and a lot of time and stress to boot. Her other option being to leave the yard within the month. She wouldn't be able to sell him anyway, particularly at this time of year.
 
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I have seen so-called owners go and leave their horse while they were on holiday - at least this one was lucky and left in a field so it had access to water and something to eat. If I was a YO I'd have the authorities round the very next day if that happened on my place. It is wanton neglect and the pony should be removed to a place of safety immediately. When I hear of cases like this, I think they can bring in the horse tax tomorrow if it stops morons like her owning animals.

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He is in a place of saftey lol we end up doing him daily becasue he escapes from whatever field he is in.
 
He will probably improve with decent and consistent riding and handling, so he is worth a try.

I had a similar situation with a nightmare livery a few years ago, and the one problem I had is that as soon as she realised I was interested, she became tricky to deal with, and started messing me about - one minute she was selling, then he meant the world to her and she couldn't part with him ever. She finally put a letter through the door saying she wanted £7000 for the pony, despite his sweet itch, mild headshaking and fat knee and I'd have to be quick because someone else was after him for that price - ha! fat chance.

So you may need to play it cool to get him for £300 - £500 - make your offer then walk away, and if she doesn't jump at the chance start talking about how much extra you are going to have to charge for extra services when she doesn't turn up!
 
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Sorry I know this is harsh but if it were me I'd steer clear- I'd ask them to move.

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That is an option. Both myself and my partner want to do this however we are concerned we will get a reputation for 'passing on a problem'
 
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