how much to charge for fuel in horse lorry

[Tacobell]

hi all
how much would you charge per mile for taking a friend to a show that i am already going to?
lorry is a 7.5t
Thanks

 

[spottypony90]

I would charge her half the cost of the fuel

 

[ycbm]

If she is a real friend, not just someone you know, and you were going anyway I wouldn't charge at all because it's cost you nothing.
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[Barton Bounty]

I wouldnt charge her anything, you are going anyway, just tell her she can shout lunch

 

[AmyMay]

I’d also charge half the fuel cost.

 

[webble]

Unless it's a huge distance maybe lunch and/or a bottle of wine

 

[Zoeypxo]

If a friend was coming with me and i was already going regardless id not charge them, as BB said maybe friend could grab lunch/hot drink

 

[AdorableAlice]

Check your insurance, most private policies have a clause that voids your insurance if you carry horses you do not own and charge a fee.

 

[expanding_horizon]

Check your insurance, most private policies have a clause that voids your insurance if you carry horses you do not own and charge a fee.

A share of fuel costs is not a profit, and does not invalidate car or lorry insurance.

Same as having a sharer for a horse does qualify as hire and reward.

 

[expanding_horizon]

Assuming it’s a round trip of over 15 miles I’d expect to pay half of fuel and make a decent attempt at helping clear out the lorry.

Easiest way is to fill up on the way out and again on way back and charge half cost.

Or I approximate my lorry is 50 pence a mile.

 

[Melody Grey]

Definitely don’t charge for transport as that’s very dodgy territory legally, though I don’t think it’s unfair to ask for a contribution for diesel/ lunch.

It’s also worth considering whether you’d feel a bit put out if this was to become a regular thing without some kind of contribution, so making sure expectations align from the outset would be good I think.

 

[Kaylum]

Surely they would be offering you something to take them. I wouldn't charge them but would expect them to pay half without asking.

 

[thommackintosh]

I'd ask for nothing but accept what they offer, be it lunch, a bottle of wine, £10 towards fuel etc. But if there's nothing, be quieter to offer the next time.

 

[LadyGascoyne]

I wouldn’t charge. If I were the friend, I would offer to pay half the fuel though.

 

[Lady Jane]

Depends how good a friend. Half the fuel or a bacon roll - assuming its not too far. I did a long trip with a very good friend and we obviously shared the fuel - it was a beach hol though so slightly different

 

[Patterdale]

It’s also worth considering whether you’d feel a bit put out if this was to become a regular thing without some kind of contribution, so making sure expectations align from the outset would be good I think.

This is what happened to me. Ended up taking a ‘friend’ everywhere, then when I did ask for a contribution I was made to feel like I was profiteering.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I ask for a contribution if they come with me even to the same place, as I have maintenance petrol,insurance, tax.damage. Lorry uses more fuel with more horses. The way I see it personally is why should I work and support my lorry and give free rides to people even friends.
Been stung too many times when horses damage my box.

 

[Mari]

Totally agree Iluvcowparsley. If a friend was good enough to take me with them I’d pay for all the petrol not just half.

 

[Zigzagged6260]

When I hired transport I was paying £120/day plus fuel. So usually somewhere in the region of £150. Whenever someone was kind enough to take me somewhere in their lorry I would do my very best to show how much I appreciated it. I agree with others that ideally you shouldn't have to ask but I would expect at least half of the fuel to be covered.

 

[dorsetladette]

my friend and I often share lorries (either hers or ours). She keeps her lorry at my yard FOC and in return helps with jobs I need 2 pairs of experienced hands with, like backing etc.

Which ever one of us is receiving the lift sorts lunch for a trip out if we're local. If its a fair distance its lunch and £20. Lunch is usually a picnic type and we have facilities in boh lorries for making hot drinks and storing cold ones.

Works well for us.

 

[MiJodsR2BlinkinTite]

All I would say is if you are "charging" - then you may be contravening your insurance in so doing, which would then invalidate your policy if something happens. Unless of course you are a professional horse transporter, which I assume from your post you are not.

Look at the small print. It will be there.

A viable alternative might be if your friend supplies lunch; or pays for your entries. Or perhaps if there is a photographer in attendance she'd be happy to purchase a nice shot of you and your horse taken on the day. I have a friend who has done me a favour recently and she's off to a Fun Ride on Sunday - and this is what I will be doing for her.

 

[Nasicus]

I'll always offer to pay half of fuel at least, as my pony adds more weight so uses more fuel than if said friend was just taking their pony on their own.

 

[QuantockHills]

i wouldn't charge, as others have said, it could have insurance complications if anything happens... but she can buy lunch.... that's what i've always done.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

I would offer half and have done for a lift to shows.

 

[bouncing_ball]

All I would say is if you are "charging" - then you may be contravening your insurance in so doing, which would then invalidate your policy if something happens. Unless of course you are a professional horse transporter, which I assume from your post you are not.

Look at the small print. It will be there.

A viable alternative might be if your friend supplies lunch; or pays for your entries. Or perhaps if there is a photographer in attendance she'd be happy to purchase a nice shot of you and your horse taken on the day. I have a friend who has done me a favour recently and she's off to a Fun Ride on Sunday - and this is what I will be doing for her.

Not true if they are contributing to fuel costs of travel, thats a long way from making a profit and hire and reward clauses. I have checked with both car insurance and lorry insurance companies.

 

[fidleyspromise]

I've paid entry fees plus a couple photos when going with my friend. (We usually go 12 or 15 miles away)
When she took my horse to vet she filled tank and then on way back I paid the fuel to top back up.

 

[abbijay]

About 12 years ago I used get lifts off a friend. I always insisted on contributing but how much depended on where we were going. It was usually £10 for local or £20 for further afield plus a bacon butty/brew/packet of fags depending on where we were and how much inconvenience I caused (e.g if she had to stay on all day for my classes at a show).
If she ever took me somewhere without her own horse I would invite her and her hubby over for a take out and beers that evening plus all the above and all the cost of the fuel.

 

[AdorableAlice]

A share of fuel costs is not a profit, and does not invalidate car or lorry insurance.

Same as having a sharer for a horse does qualify as hire and reward.

Read the small print on the lorry policy for a privately owned, used for pleasure only policy.

 

[Smogul]

Read the small print on the lorry policy for a privately owned, used for pleasure only policy.

Yes to this. We checked specifically with our insurer and were told that yes, share of fuel costs would invalidate our insurers. Personally I wouldn't charge a friend anyway.

 

[nagblagger]

I would never charge a friend. A bacon butty and coffee is appreciated though, and reciprocated if she helps me out. We may exchange horsey favours but hardly ever money.
We also work on 'you bend it, you mend it' philosophy if tools, trailer etc is borrowed.