Vizslak
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I could believe mum was a collie whip cayla, don't you think she looks like one? I think she is pretty typey of that cross 
How much would you pay for a lurcher pup?
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CAYLA
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Nope, I would expect it to be hairier and smaller, with a bit more colour esp if straight x, unless it was a smooth coated colli
but I still dont think it's a straight X of either of those.
but I still dont think it's a straight X of either of those.
Vizslak
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she doesnt look very big though, the pups look pretty huge! I have known a couple of collie x whips that look alot like her tbh. I still dont think the pups are the cross stated though!
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CAYLA
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Well im no lurcher expert to be fair, I get all my info from OH, but I would not think it was a straight X.
Vizslak
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ok we will agree to disagree on mum 
do you agree on the pups though?
do you agree on the pups though?
Ravenwood
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Hmmmm - going against the grain here as I have no experience of luchers whatsoever!
But - we paid well over the odds for an unregistered collie recently. But, I was very happy to pay that amount because I was able to see both the sire and dam, the pup had been raised in an exceptionally good environement, the breeders were very nice people etc etc.
I think that, at the end of the day, whether you pay a hundred or so over the normal price is neither here nor there if the pup have been bred well, looked after etc. Christ I have dogs who came to me riddled in fleas, thrown up what looked like a plate of spaghetti they were so worm riddled.
If you are going to get a pup and have it for the next 15 years or so - I really don't think how much you pay for it makes much difference.
But - we paid well over the odds for an unregistered collie recently. But, I was very happy to pay that amount because I was able to see both the sire and dam, the pup had been raised in an exceptionally good environement, the breeders were very nice people etc etc.
I think that, at the end of the day, whether you pay a hundred or so over the normal price is neither here nor there if the pup have been bred well, looked after etc. Christ I have dogs who came to me riddled in fleas, thrown up what looked like a plate of spaghetti they were so worm riddled.
If you are going to get a pup and have it for the next 15 years or so - I really don't think how much you pay for it makes much difference.
soloabe
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I would pay nothing to line the pockets of another irresposible breeder when there are hundreds in recues all over the place.
MurphysMinder
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Don't know a lot about lurchers, there were 2 litters in our paper last night, bull x greyhound £50 , and collie x greyhound ex a KC whippet for £140 bitches £100 dogs (never understood why people charge different prices for the sexes). However I do think the bitch in the pics looks very fed up, I usually have my pups totally weaned by around 6 weeks, bitch still plays with them but they do not suckle.
ChesnutsRoasting
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Two of mine - same breeding, different litters.
What height is the bitch?
What height is the bitch?
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
i paid £160 for my lurcher, 6 years ago and didnt realise she came from working stock and i only wanted a pet. she is a pain as she will go off hunting everyso often and i have to be very careful where i walk her off lead. my previous lurcher was border collie/whippet/bedlington and both parents were just pets, she was extremely obedient and easy to train. never had a hunting problem although did still chase rabbits,squirrels etc but came immediately i called. i agree with the others, they dont look quite as i would have expected from that cross.. there are loads of lurchers in rescues just waiting for you!!!!!!:
Luci07
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In defense of the costs of getting a dog from a rescue - £120 etc. You are forgetting that the rescues are completely dependant on funding and need to take into account the costs of the actual kennels -(cost per day), neutering and injections plus medical bills for whatever else the dog comes in with. Rescues are overrun with staffies and lurchers and a reputable rescue will assess the dog properly and be able to say if it is good with children/other dogs etc. I would not buy a puppy for the reason stated above - rescues are overun and I would not put money into someones pocket who was breeding for financial reasons only. If the dogs were that special, the puppies would have already been spoken for. For anyone who thinks that rescues take too much money I suggest you read the rescueremedies.org rescue diary - and see how they struggle with all their bills and where the money goes to. I appreciate there is a difference for certain pedigree dogs where there aren't that many around but for staffies and lurchers,... please think again and give a rescue dog a chance. A very VERY large number from these breeds don't make it past the 7 day put down rule at the pound...
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ChesnutsRoasting
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In defense of buying from an established breeder, some have been in the lurcher game a long time & just like pedigree dogs, they have bred from proven lines. If you want to show successfully, then conformation is as important just like in pedigree showing. If you want to work them, then again from proven stock. I agree that there are far too many lurchers languishing in rescues having been bred & dumped, either because they don't sell or aren't successful at working, by bell-ends who couldn't care less.
I realise lurchers are mongrels essentially, but for people who show or work them, there lineage is a very important factor, just as it is for pedigree peeps.
I realise lurchers are mongrels essentially, but for people who show or work them, there lineage is a very important factor, just as it is for pedigree peeps.
Bosworth
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I bought my lurcher from a breeder - he is a pest controller and breeds working lurchers. I paid £200 for her. I looked in rescue, was told I needed to build a 6 ft fence around my house (32 acres it could cost me a fortune!) got totally screwed by one rescue who took my deposit and sold my pup to someone else who offered more money. I also am very wary of some lurcher mixes, I hate the bullX who on earth would mix something with a kill instinct like a bull and mix it with the speed of a greyhound- that is a serious killing machine. I already have a lurcher rescue and I love him to bits - but - he came with some serious mental issues caused before he was 5 months old which have proved very difficult to loose.,
My dog is a known quantity - a first cross bedlington whippet. I knew what I was getting
and to be honest she has been worth every penny I paid, her nature is fantastic, and she is a phenomenal hunter
My dog is a known quantity - a first cross bedlington whippet. I knew what I was getting
jack9
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probably £50 tops to cover costs....
to buy one though you are encouraging BYB's.......
they are crosses. good lines or not.
to buy one though you are encouraging BYB's.......
they are crosses. good lines or not.
FestiveSpirit
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BS your lurchers are stunning, so is yours Bosworth but I have said that before
TBH I wouldnt rate the lurcher pups at all, mum looks quite poor to me and I dont think the pups would be what I was looking for personally....
TBH I wouldnt rate the lurcher pups at all, mum looks quite poor to me and I dont think the pups would be what I was looking for personally....
ChesnutsRoasting
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Good lines = good health, good conformation & ability to work if so desired.
Luci07
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Not a chance. Go and work out what costs rescues have...neutering alone is well over the £100 mark..
I agree if you are buying a working or show dog, then that would be different but if you are looking for a pet, then why not give a rescue a chance? and name and shame if you find a bad one but also praise the ones that do a good job!. I am well aware that there are some rescues which go overboard and almost seem to be living in doo la la land in terms of what people can reasonably offer, but equally, there are good responsible rescues who really try to match the dog to the person and to take the entire picture into account. Theoretically I am not a good home as I work full time. On the other hand, I know staffies, have a dog walker, and mine get to go out first thing and the yard in the evening - when I do work from home my dogs still take themselves to bed in the morning!. I just find it heartbreaking when you get involved and see just the volume of dogs thrown away.
ofcourseyoucan
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i woudnt pay much (£50 tops) for lurcher. (mongrel) but i have tried to get a rescue (£170) have reservered 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but sadly i do not fit the bill! a nice rural home soneone here 24/7 but i do not have a fenced garden????????????????????????????? WTF? so i will have to buy my dog encouraging puppy farming and indescriminate breeding! the rescues are singing from the wong hymm sheet!
soloabe
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No you don't. You can be responsible about it and look for responsible breeders who do all the appropriate health tests ect.
And have you tried more than one rescue? there are at least 3 lurcher rescues in the Uk that i know of. and our very own cayla!
MurphysMinder
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Tinkerbee
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Fifty quid tops. That's what I'd pay for any average mutt pup. Although I wouldn't pay anything for those pups, no offence but the mother looks just like the sort you see roaming the streets in Sri Lanka. It looks a bad photo, granted, but still not a good sort.
RuthnMeg
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Sadly these pups are too expensive, and to be honest I was hoping to rehome a rescue. (They also look massive for 8-9 week pups). Only that these guys were advertised in my local paper did I ring up and enquire about them.
I've passed a home check from the GRWE and can offer a fab home. Major trouble is the fact that both my kids are under 8 and that puts alot of people off willing to accept me as a new owner. I know that MOST lurchers are very good with kids, but some rescue sites (and well done to them) can't risk it if they think there may be an issue.
On the other hand, my OH doesn't want a ''pure'' lurcher!!??!?! but as said before a collie x type and I want the lurcher, so both together MIGHT produce the best option! Crazy - I know.
AND... why is it that Dorset (well North Dorset really) seems miles away from any homing sites? So many times I've been told that Iam too far away for home checks, not within the re-homing 'boundries' and if it is ok, I have to travel miles to go and see a potential keepeer!?!
Surely there is some lovely bitch just round the corner.....
I've passed a home check from the GRWE and can offer a fab home. Major trouble is the fact that both my kids are under 8 and that puts alot of people off willing to accept me as a new owner. I know that MOST lurchers are very good with kids, but some rescue sites (and well done to them) can't risk it if they think there may be an issue.
On the other hand, my OH doesn't want a ''pure'' lurcher!!??!?! but as said before a collie x type and I want the lurcher, so both together MIGHT produce the best option! Crazy - I know.
AND... why is it that Dorset (well North Dorset really) seems miles away from any homing sites? So many times I've been told that Iam too far away for home checks, not within the re-homing 'boundries' and if it is ok, I have to travel miles to go and see a potential keepeer!?!
Surely there is some lovely bitch just round the corner.....
ChesnutsRoasting
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Sighthounds, lurchers, longdogs etc etc have a tendency to chase
Hence why a fenced garden is a must, unless of course you're happy with your dogs taking off after something, roaming the countryside/streets making a bloody nuisance of themselves & giving the anti-loose dog brigade even more ammo to have a pop at dog owners. If you didn't realise that, then praise be the rescues rejected you!
GinnieRedwings
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Ahhhhh, another one of my soap box issues. I tried to get a rescue dog both from the Blue Cross and the RSPCA, a little over 12 years ago, and as I was not a home owner/too young/was in between uni and getting a job, they all turned me down I did think at the time that unless you were a retired home owner with a large well fenced garden and the sort of energy that most pensioners have
confused: ) to go out for 2 10 mile hikes each day
then you couldnt get a dog from the rescue!!! How stupid!!! Are dogs REALLY better off in rescue kennels long term, than in a home that might be a little less than perfect?So I went to a less picky boarding kennels that also doubled up as the local rural pound. For £60, I got Lucy and my first introduction to lurchers (in at the deep end!). She was 6 months old and had been given up by the elderly couple who had got her as a puppy but couldnt cope with her bouncyness and as it turned out, probably also couldnt cope with her chasing things, selective hearing issues, stealing food, blatant lack of toilet manners, chewing everything in sight when left alone more than 5 minutes We got over most of these things fairly quickly and I got her a slightly older friend (from the same place) when I started work and they were fine staying at home whilst I was out.
Lucy was my saving grace in lots of ways and she has made me a lurcher-lover. She is cunning and too clever for her own good. She is also neurotic as hell but she is the best friend Ive ever had. She goes off wandering when I do the horses and comes back when its time to go. I love her to bits.
She is also NOT your typical lurcher We think she is Greyhound x German Shepherd
Sorry for diverting widely from the OPs point. Even though Lucy is on the wide side for a lurcher and I got her when she was older than these pups in the pics, she was finer and had proportionally longer legs than those Id also question the parentage on the dads side!
Bosworth
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I have lurchers - mine have never roamed making a 'bloody nuisance of themselves' In fact the most bloody irritating dog that roamed loose was a randy labrador - pedigree - who raped his way round the village - solved that one - I took him took him to a vets said he was mine and had him neutered. Then released him back on to the streets. He had raped my lurcher bitch - by smashing through a glass door when she was having her first season and i had to have her neutered and aborted at the same time. He did something similar to my friends young pointer - he went through their cat flap destroying their door in the meantime. Her bitch died as a result - she got a serious infection from the neutering and died. So don't try and preach that lurchers and sighthounds are roaming. I do not have a six foot fence her - I have 32 acres and my dogs are allowed all around. They never leave the property. My puppy was trained from the first to know where her boundaries are and she does. I have found more sane lurcher owners than I have pedigree owners, I have never come across lurcher owners whose dogs roam around terrorising others and the lurchers I know of are neutered.
GinnieRedwings
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Sighthounds, lurchers, longdogs etc etc have a tendency to chase
My lurcher never "roams" - She wanders around the farm, but never leaves the perimeter. In fact, I could probably draw a circle around me ( about 100mtrs or so) and Lucy would always be within that. The loose dogs around where I live are terriers & collies that don't get enough exercise. Roaming dogs - of whatever breed - are dogs that don't get exercised enough. 12 years down the line, Lucy has had a great life with someone that according to some rescues wasn't fit to have a rescue dog - Shame for the Blue Cross dog that didn't even get given that chance! Lucky for Lucy (and Max, who we saddly lost a couple of months ago aged 13).
ChesnutsRoasting
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Thats because us lurcher owners are paragons of virtue
Although, our saneness could be debated!If I had 32 acres, my lot would roam quite happily around it for sure, but for the average joe with a garden fencing is a must.
Maesfen
Extremely Old Nag!
I can't think of anything more irresponsible than having an unfenced garden if you have any type of dog especially if you live in a built up area or have neighbours as it is anti social and an invitation for the dogs to go visiting all and sundry in 'their area'. I like to know my dogs are safe, if we didn't have a fenced garden, while I know they wouldn't roam too far, that would be too far in terms of the neighbours. I don't want their dogs on my property the same way they wouldn't want mine; it's called being responsible to both the dogs and the neighbours let alone my peace of mind.
ChesnutsRoasting
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Bosworth, whoa there!, just reread your post with more concentration. I am not preaching re roaming lurchers or in any way suggesting the lurcher owners allow their dogs to roam loose, just highlighting the fact that most lurchers etc will chase small furries. I know of several dogs with sighthound breeding that have escaped from their homes and gone on to be hit by a car or kill a neighbours cat. Its all very well to have the luxury of land to exercise your dogs in, but for me if I didn't have a six foot perimeter fence surrounding my modest garden my lot would be out terrorising the neighbourhood. Not because they won't recall or because they don't get exercised, but because they are hounds! Now thats preaching.
Bosworth
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but Blazingsaddles - thats not because they are lurchers or mongrels - its because they are dogs - and many dogs like to chase - pedigree or not and their owners are irresponsible. Hot on the wanted list in this area are a black lab and a collie - because they are roaming on the moors and killing lambs. My brother in law's ****su chases sheep, it cannot be let loose. My lurchers come with me when i ride on the moors - they run loose, but woe betide them if they even look at a sheep. And they know it. I can call them off rabbits and deer, beacuse they have been trained from day 1 that when I say come they come. They live in perfect harmony with the cat because again from day 1 have not allowed them otherwise. Yet the horrid little pedigree lapdog ****su who never leaves the owners feet will chase sheep and kill lambs and totally ignore the owners.
It is not down to the type of dog, it is down to the conditioning and the training, and their appropriateness of their surroundings.
It is not down to the type of dog, it is down to the conditioning and the training, and their appropriateness of their surroundings.