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On Saturday we made a fairly large lasagne - would probably feed 8-10. We had lots and the dogs had a bit on Saturday and we left it on the side with foil over it overnight... (with about 2/3 - 3/4 left)

Morning comes, OH got up to go to the shop. I stayed in bed. Dogs normally stay in bed as long as possible but I woke up and noticed no Star, then some clinking downstairs.. then the smell of lasagne!! I went down and she's manages to eat the whole thing while it was still on the side!!
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So I'm thinking she was up on the side (all fours) to do this!

So how much troubs would your dog be in?
 
If I didn't catch him in the act - none
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He wouldn't know why he was in trouble.

If I did catch him, he'd get a lecture and a half, and possibly also a smacked bottom!
 
Well I caught her in the act.. but I can't help finding things like that funny!
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OH came back from shop and did not find it so funny so she got a big telling off.
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She so did know what she had done wrong though!! She is a clever dog and got the chance to get it when OH went out.
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I don't really understand why she would not know? She knows it's bad to jump up on the worktop and eat things.. and she knew that she'd just devoured about 6 portions of lasagne.
 
If you come in and tell a dog off after the dog has done something that you didn't catch it doing, the dog will not think 'hmmmm, I wonder, what could it be that I have done to earn this telling off?' They will know they're in trouble but they won't get why. You have to catch them in the act so they can make that connection.

If you tell them off after the fact, all she sees is you coming back into the room and yelling - why, when you left the food out and unsupervised from her point of view! Sorry but she would not have known why she was in trouble. Especially if you reacted by finding it funny: that could encourage her because she gets a double reward! 'Hey, look, I get yummy food AND Mum's happy' - then Dad comes back in and isn't - why not? How confusing from a dog's point of view.
 
Any of our dogs would have been in heap big trouble if they did that. But then, they would have had to get out of the bolted kennel, through the locked double glazed back door, and through the utility room door, so in reality, not a hope in hell for them!
 
Oh well, she saved you throwing it away as I assume it wouldn't be fit for eating if it hadn't been kept in the fridge overnight.
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I dog sat last Easter for a Collie cross. Lovely dog, called Toffee. We had a meat and potato pie made for us by the mother in law. She left it on our stove, as we were outside. When we came in we found the broken pyrex dish on the floor and the tiles completely devoid of any sign of pie. I was mortified....worried sick that she'd have eaten some of the dish and be ill. So worried I never even gave the pie a second thought.
 
I didn't let her know I found it funny.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but I think she knew.

I never tell her off anyway but even if I thought she didn't know, would not be able to tell my OH otherwise. I did tell him off for being too hard on her.
 
Well at least Stardog was polite enough to jump up on the side and leave the dish there.. if not the pie!

Meat and pot pie is soooo my favourite by the way!!! Haven't had it since both my nans died.
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If i had caught one of mine at the time they would of got a hell of a telling off.

Not only is it bad behavior but it is truly disgusting to have a dog go on the work top.

Mine know what is mine and what they can not touch and i like it to stay with me and the top of the pack and discipline is part of that.
 
I don't think we have that in our house!! we don't really have a top dog as such.

Alfie is a good boy and Star is a good girl most of the time... but is completely obsessed with food!! She knows it's bad, but would rather get told off and eat the food!
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Caught in the act, cross words, straight outside and no contact for a long time and definitely no tea.

As others have said, dog will have had no idea why it got a telling off after the fact.
 
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Nope, I'm the Bad Cop in this household
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Also the resident Bloat/Torsion Forum Paranoid, if they managed to eat a whole lasagne there'd be fasting AND restricted exercise
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Agree with that!
 
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I don't think we have that in our house!! we don't really have a top dog as such.

Alfie is a good boy and Star is a good girl most of the time... but is completely obsessed with food!! She knows it's bad, but would rather get told off and eat the food!
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Weather you know it or not thats how dogs work.
There is always a top dog and if your not making an effort for it to be you its usually one of the dogs.
 
Oh of course, GSDs are terribly prone aren't they? My girl has a really annoying habit of rolling around on the floor after every meal (to clean her face??), always gives me the heebie jeebies. I don't like feeding her now unless I'm around after to distract her. You're quite right, not something you can be too paranoid about. Better safe than sorry!
 
A tanned beackside if caught in action
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if not then tough....time has passed.....I was thinking u where gonna say little alf, "yea right" I was thinking he could just about reach the plinth at the bottom of the cupboard
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My old lurcher (greyhoud sized!) used to jump ONTO the counter to steal food, he had a major telling off every time but never learnt. If I told him to get down he would just growl at me! So I made him a mustard, chilli and tabasco sandwich and left it out for him. Mwhahahaha. Actually, he had the last laugh, wolfed it down and licked his lips!!
 
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Caught in the act, cross words, straight outside and no contact for a long time and definitely no tea.

As others have said, dog will have had no idea why it got a telling off after the fact.

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This is what I do as well.

If you reprimand a dog after the event the dog looks guilty and upset as if it knows it has done wrong, but it is only responding to the owner's voice and behaviour. The dog will feel bad when you are telling it off, but it just won't associate the telling off with the bad behaviour unless the two happen together.
 
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I don't think we have that in our house!! we don't really have a top dog as such.

Alfie is a good boy and Star is a good girl most of the time... but is completely obsessed with food!! She knows it's bad, but would rather get told off and eat the food!
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Weather you know it or not that's how dogs work.
There is always a top dog and if your not making an effort for it to be you it's usually one of the dogs.

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Not if you have self confident cats in the household...
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Although some people have dogs that doesn't bother about making it evident to their owners, what they think about the rank in the household. If you e.g. have two non dominant dogs, their mutual rank amongst themselves might not be that clearly defined but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.



I also believe dogs should only be told off if caught in the act, the fact that they act "ashamed"/submissive when being told off even afterwards, is no evidence for that they know what they're being told off for. It is only an evidence of that you have a perfectly normal, sane dog that uses their body language to try and soothe their owners (erratic) behaviour.


If I catches one of my dogs in the act, I promptly removes everything I can from their mouth, while they're told a few words of truth.

If they have swallowed the last piece but is still at the scene of the "crime", they're told off for being where they shouldn't be.

If they have finished eating and are not still 100% at the scene of the "crime", I don't care if they're the only one in a locked room, nothing happens except that their food ration would be minimized accordingly to what have disappeared.
My personal view is that if anybody is to blame, it is mostly myself for either not managing to train them better or, if knowing that all training have been unsuccessful, not keeping my food so that these things can't happen.



Maybe I'm the most evil dog owner on HHO
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, from when they're only a few months old, I sometimes put my full dinner plate on the floor and eats from there (I know, not the best eating position and far from correct table manners). If they try anything, I growl!

I continue the training until I can leave the dogs in the room with my plate on the floor and though the possible group pressure of feeling that if one doesn't take it the other dogs might, no dog goes near my plate. Though I don't quite trust my cats.

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Oh no!
our dogs did that with my grandads trout shaped birthday cake! they got the tummy so mum had to re make a tummy for it! LOL
but not unless i caught them in the act, although i would have laughed!
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