hunt straying onto private land (also in hunting)

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I must admit, I'm kind of surprised by the comments in this thread. I know the article is anti-hunting, but even so.....a pack of dogs of any form suddenly appearing in your garden would be traumatising for some people. I own rottweilers - if I allowed them to trespass on someone else's land, particularly into someone else's garden, I'd expect all sorts of negative reactions and possibly police involvement. The language in the article might be sensationalist, but some people genuinely are scared of dogs....some people are terrified of a single dog, let alone a pack. And even if they aren't, should they have to be ok with anything or anyone being on their property if they don't want them there?

I do think there's a difference between being on someone's 'land' and being in someone's garden - I'm not entirely sure how I'd feel if I was sitting out in summer and a pack of dogs appeared over my garden fence. I'd probably make a massive fuss of them
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but I'd still be p*ssed off at the trespass, the disruption and the implication I should put up and shut up. I wouldn't compare it to a car crash, but the elderly widow who lives two houses along from me might.

I guess I'm in the distinct minority here, but I don't think it makes a blind bit of difference to the general principle if they happen to be a hunt pack or not - people shouldn't have to put up with their gardens being invaded by anyone or anything they don't want there. I'm saying this as a huge dog lover, and someone who lived and grew up in rural Glos for many years. The ladies in the article might be aggressively anti-hunt, but that really shouldn't detract from the alleged story that some hunt packs have trespassed and (possibly) killed pets.

Hunting gets an awful lot of bad press anyway. So do rottweilers, and I've always taken great pains to make sure my dogs don't even accidentally reinforce that reputation, changing a fair few negative opinions over the years. In this case, surely taking the allegations from the article seriously could only help hunting to be seen as responsible and courteous rather than arrogant and a possible liability?

Sorry if any of my comments go against the grain
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I am not for or against hunting but I can see through these silly women!
These woman are obviously anti's they have set out to disrupt the local hunt - an asbo on a pack of hounds - please!

It is not usual for hounds to go into a garden for no reason, I would think this pack did not go in her garden without being 'baited' I can just imagine what the pair of them had got up to trying to get video footage of hounds in their garden, killing pets with children watching, this is not a normal thing to happen ... if that is not made up/staged for media attention I don't don't what is!!

quote: She still finds it hard to talk about the event, which she says had a traumatising impact: - I bet as they have a good laugh about it at their sab meetings!!!

This is not about trespassing or being traumatised - it is about the hunting debate and trying to get bad press for hunting
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If this is what is seems, i.e. a lifelong anti looking to stir things up, then I just don't understand why antis are still so militant - they got their hearts' desire when the hunting ban was voted in, but still they keep carping on.......

It really annoys me they appear to be unable to allow others to live and let live - they have serious, sociopathic problems methinks.

PS I'm not naive about hunting, but as someone else, said, most hunts do so within the letter of the law.
 
While they are complaining about trespass, maybe they could sort out and make a film about twats walking through our fields with dogs and dropping litter etc, fkin traumatises me, or wont that count.
 
I dont think its the same as a car crash obviously. However I would be absolutely horrified if a hunt came onto my land. I imagine they could destroy your garden in minutes and terrify any pets (or worse...). I would absolutely take things further if a hunt every came near my land - but then I dont agree with it. But then I dont have any hunts near me thankfully so it'd never happen!
 
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If people don't want the hunt on their land then a simple call to the hunt will ensure that the hunt is aware that they should keep hounds away from a specific property.


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Hmm... I don't think you should have to call someone or even make the slightest bit of effort really to make sure hunts or anyone for that matter doesn't ride or use your own land! It's their own land...! xx

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I'd agree - but it's not quite that simple. If someone really doesn't want even a single hound to set foot on their land, the ONLY way for the hunt to be SURE of complying is to stay at least a mile away from that property. Obviously hunts try to avoid built-up areas - but in many cases there may be one or two cottages between two larger farms - both of whom WANT the hunt there - and may actually host a meet! If one of those cottages is occupied by an anti - and so much as one hound crosses the garden - headlines and hysteria begin. But what about the rights of those farmers - to enjoy having the hunt on their land (and - in the good old days - controlling their foxes!
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) The hunt would have NO intention of riding through the cottage's garden - the worst that would happen is a few hounds might stray!

Many years ago, when I was Area PRO for the BFSS (now Countryside Alliance) I recall a Master ringing me in a panic as hound had inadvertently run into a village and through half-a-dozen back gardens! He wasn't sure WHAT to do (he was a new Master!) So I told him to get himself down to the village with a case of wine and knock on doors!

Of 6 householders who'd had hounds through their garden, ALL were happy to accept a couple of bottles of wine and an apology (one chap had hounds pop into the kitchen and take a thawing joint off the sideboard!
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) None felt the need to rush to the papers. They were mildly inconvenienced - but a couple said it was nice to see hounds in the village, and when would they be coming again!

I'm obviously NOT anti - but I can't welcome the hunt on my farm because I always have in-foal mares out at grass during the hunting season - and several of them are ex-hunters! The hunt always sends a card to let me know when they'll be in the area - and do everything possible to ensure they DON'T run onto my land. It's more than 15 years since they accidentally ran onto the farm. Only the huntsman and the hunt chairman followed - to get hounds off quickly and to apologise!

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Out of interest a quick Google search provided a couple of examples of hounds killing pets:

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One pet killed by hounds is one too many - but - that's 1 incident in 2004 - and 1 in 2006. In the latter case the cat was on the road - where the risk of it being run over would have been considerably higher than the risk of it meeting a pack of hounds!

Obviously it happens slightly more often than that - in my time with BFSS/CA, I'd estimate it was an average of twice a year - over the whole country. That's with more than 200 packs - hunting at LEAST 2 days a week during the season, as well as daily hound exercise from July. There was also the odd incident with sheep - again, very rare. But the number of sheep killed by hounds would be a VERY small percentage of the number saved by hunt staff and hunt supporters who find cast sheep and right them before they die!

And how many motorists who run over a cat even stop - let alone seek out the owner and offer compensation and apologies??
 
To be fair, the women were also recounting pet animals being torn apart which in anybody's book is a horrendous thing to happen in front of you. Where I used to live the hunt were continuously trespassing onto my land and really upsetting my mare, she would shake for 2 days after. I phoned and spoke to the master who assured me it wouldn't happen again and the next week there he was with anti's, followers etc crashing through my wood and upsetting my horse again. His reply was that they couldn't help where the fox went. It is not fair to trespass with a pack of hounds in any situation. As has already been stated, we all have to live together but that means respecting other people's property and beliefs. It goes both ways.
 
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