I am utterly fuming!!!

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A friend of mine has just sent me a link to a site on which so-called "comedian" Ricky Gervais says: "I can't stand blood sports or any cruelty to animals. [...] I don't understand why loads of inbreds get the ******* horn when they see a fox cowering in fear."

I am so angry I can hardly write. So, Mr Gervais, how many hunts have you actually been on? All you're doing is showing your ignorance for everyone to see. Just how exactly is a fox "cowering in fear" when a terrierman is digging down to it? You see, you're just making yourself look stupid!

While it's true that I bought the DVDs for series one and two of The Office plus the Christmas special, as well as the DVDs for Extras, I can honestly say, hand on heart, that I never thought Gervais was funny. "Inbreds"? And to think that I took my cousins and their kids to the Flanimals tour!!!
 

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I really don't find him funny! Have never been a fan at all, gods honest truth. I didn't even get him in the comic relief sketch, I thought what a p***k and that was before I'd even seen your quote!
 

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From what I recall, he's said he has seen hunts etc. Although saying that, he claims to be from a far nicer town than where he is originally from, so who knows.

P.S I'm a pro, and I still think he's hilarious.
 

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Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. Im sure you wouldnt be "fuming" had he taken a pro stance so whats the big deal! Mairi. Ps, Im sure foxes will do some cowering when being dug.
 

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The odd one might ! Look at Nick-he needs to go hunting to get his end away. Can that be played on the hunting horn? :grin:
 

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I think anything would cower when it is faced by dogs.......................i know i would, in fact i am sure we all would cower if we knew we where about to be torn limb from limb, no matter how fast the actual kill was.

I think the best way to look at this is, if tonight was your last night on earth, you would pretty much [****] yourself.

Any way, i am sure you por's will find an answer to defend your self.

I actually like nature and think that everything was put on the earth for a reason....YES........... even the fox.

And before you start telling me i dont know what i am talking about!!

I am a land owner, a chicken owner , a horse owner, dog owner and i have a large population of moles and rats!!

But i do not feel the need to kill with hounds.

No one would come on my land to do that, how do you sleep when you watch the terror in an animals eyes?
 

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I think anything would cower when it is faced by dogs.......................i know i would, in fact i am sure we all would cower if we knew we where about to be torn limb from limb, no matter how fast the actual kill was.

Oh Joy...thank the lord..another who is the 'bible' on terrierwork...how does a gun tear a fox limb from limb? :confused: Laughable really.

"I actually like nature and think that everything was put on the earth for a reason....YES........... even the fox"

Me too...God gave us..the fox..hounds, terriers and horse...hmmm I think he wanted us to hunt don't you :smirk:

"I am a land owner, a chicken owner , a horse owner, dog owner and i have a large population of moles and rats!!"

Awww..do you feed the furry creatures *snigger*

"But i do not feel the need to kill with hounds."

Me neither...its illegal...still enjoying flushing with hounds though :grin:

"No one would come on my land to do that, how do you sleep when you watch the terror in an animals eyes? "

Horlicks see's me through the night thanks...
 

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What a stupid and unintelligent response, no we dont feed the fuury creatures, we understand the damge the vermin can cause, you obviosly are not a land owner
 

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What a stupid and unintelligent response, no we dont feed the fuury creatures, we understand the damge the vermin can cause, you obviosly are not a land owner

Clearly I'm not...I'm a city dweller don't you know :grin:
 

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Why is it usually the "proper country folk" that call animal lovers "tree huggers" and then complain they are from the cities.
I love animals, I don't kill any type of living thing (Don't start on the "vegetables are alive" argument), I don't keep pets and I have never hugged (or anything else) a tree.
No, I'm not a hippy, I was born and bred in the Yorkshire Dales and I don't like hunting in any form.


To get back to the thread, Nick_Carraway seems to be a bit of a kn0b, some posts he doesn't care either way but then hates someone for speaking out.
Nick, take a sh1t or get off the pan. (Translation on request)

I've never found RG funny but that has nothing to do with his views on hunting.
 

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Do you think it is possible to support hunting and still be an animal lover?

If you don't then maybe you don't understand the arguments in favour of hunting.
 

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Do you think it is possible to support hunting and still be an animal lover?

If you don't then maybe you don't understand the arguments in favour of hunting.

Yes...I am an animal lover! I support all types of hunting pre-ban whether using hounds, lurchers or terriers.
 

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But Wrighty how much experience of the countryside do you have? My grandfathers second much younger wife sees herself as a country person...she's an anarak, walking boot wearing yuppy! She enjoys the bits that she likes but can't take the rest of it. A true country person takes the countryside for what it is.
 

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"Do you think it is possible to support hunting and still be an animal lover?"

NO.

"If you don't then maybe you don't understand the arguments in favour of hunting."

Fair comment, I don't understand how people can scare animals by chasing them around the countryside with hounds and say it is for the benefit of the animal. Saying hunting only gets (or "got" if you believe the hunts don't go after the foxes now) the old and the weak therefore natural selection but when a fox gets a weak and dying lamb it's the spawn af satan, make your minds up.
I know there are lots of other arguments for hunting but doing it because you love animals isn't a really good one.
 

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"But Wrighty how much experience of the countryside do you have?"

Plenty.
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Lived on, worked on and volenteered on farms for 20years.
Because of things I saw and was told about these farms I decided to help protect animals from abuse and cruelty.
I've worked with factory bred chickens (which made me stop eating chickens) and free range, NO chickens were ever taken by foxes because the owner spent some extra cash on fences to stop them getting in. The owner refused any access to his land for hunts as he disagreed with killing foxes (Hunting, snaring or shooting)

Just because I am against hunting it doesn't mean I know nothing about the countryside, I have shot birds and rabbits in the past, I have plucked/skinned them, prepared them and eaten them (Unlike most of the hunt supporters I have met) and I see no problem with that BUT it is the people who do it for entertainment (I won't call it a sport) and/or profit I have a problem with. (For profit I include people that kill animals because the are eating there crops/lambs/flowers)
 

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Can you tell me what sort of fences he used to keep the foxes out?

I might get some.

PMSL!! Perhaps Wrighty could send links of this fence maufacturer to every game bird breeder and game keeper in countryside...

I wonder if he/she eats chitlins for breccie :grin:
 

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So you think farming is cruel and you expect me to take you seriously?

Why did you work on farms that you think are cruel for 20 years? It seems it took you a long time to work out in your mind that your workplace was 'cruel'.
 

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Chitterling, chitterling, chitterling !

Chitterling is all I crave

Fill i up with chitterling

and think of all the cash you'll save.

Haha...hungry now TF?



fox proof fences !! I have my cheque book out already.


Are they badger proof aswell? If they are then I really will invest in it for my hay field...
 

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"Why did you work on farms that you think are cruel for 20 years?"
The farms that I found to be cruel I didn't work at for long.

Use your brains, come on.
If you dug a 1 foot deep and 6 inch wide trench where your fence was to go, put the fence to the bottom with the the bottom of the fence along the bottom of the trench (6 inches towards the outside of the enclosure) and then fill it in.
If the fox decides it wants a snack it will dig, get down to 6 inch flat piece of fence and unless it has a small digger it wont be able to get into your precious chucks. Check the fences every day, fill in holes if and when required.
I was told that one when I was 10.

"So you think farming is cruel and you expect me to take you seriously?"
So chicks aren't "thinned" by sellecting the weaker ones, holding them in your hand and then snapping their neck with your thumb? Or was I imagining it?
 
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