dieseldog
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My comment relates to the fact that a pretty horse will always sell easier than an ugly one. And an unusually marked one will sell even more so.
I figured I should tell you the story... (VERY long)
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JM07
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i think the teeth Deapan is referring to, could well be his tushes, not wolf teeth.
JM07
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sorry, but why did you ride a horse with this list of health ailments?
Do not do it. You don't sound like you ave enough experience.
Hope he is rescued.
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i agree...next time you and your mother go trundling off for hours on end looking for a pony, take someone who is more experienced than both of you.
sorry, but why did you ride a horse with this list of health ailments?
Do not do it. You don't sound like you ave enough experience.
Hope he is rescued.
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i agree...next time you and your mother go trundling off for hours on end looking for a pony, take someone who is more experienced than both of you.
Mid
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"i agree...next time you and your mother go trundling off for hours on end looking for a pony, take someone who is more experienced than both of you."
For goddness sakes ¬_¬ Please read my replies before making sarcastic comments. If you can't be bothered to read my posts, I don't see why I should have to read yours.
For goddness sakes ¬_¬ Please read my replies before making sarcastic comments. If you can't be bothered to read my posts, I don't see why I should have to read yours.
JM07
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i HAVE read ALL your posts...and previous ones...and to be honest,with your inexperience and obvious lack of knowledge i wouldn't even SELL you a horse...where's the sarcasm????.........
Mid
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If you'd read all my posts, perhaps you would have realised that I'd allready answered your question TWICE, when asked by others.
If you just came on here to be rude, I'd highly advise you to leave. You don't know me. I've never even TYPED to you before.
If you just came on here to be rude, I'd highly advise you to leave. You don't know me. I've never even TYPED to you before.
JM07
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If you'd read all my posts, perhaps you would have realised that I'd allready answered your question TWICE, when asked by others.
If you just came on here to be rude, I'd highly advise you to leave. You don't know me. I've never even TYPED to you before.
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you answered MY questions twice..but they were asked by others..thats a little rude too.
i didnt come on here to be rude, and therefore, IMO, haven't been so, as for you HIGHLY ADVISING me to leave, that is very amusing.
no you are right i dont know you, but if i did, i would be offering you some sound advice, as you obviously need it.
If you'd read all my posts, perhaps you would have realised that I'd allready answered your question TWICE, when asked by others.
If you just came on here to be rude, I'd highly advise you to leave. You don't know me. I've never even TYPED to you before.
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you answered MY questions twice..but they were asked by others..thats a little rude too.
i didnt come on here to be rude, and therefore, IMO, haven't been so, as for you HIGHLY ADVISING me to leave, that is very amusing.
no you are right i dont know you, but if i did, i would be offering you some sound advice, as you obviously need it.
summertoots
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I did what you are thinking about. Went for a nose around a dealer yard and ended up buying a poor looking skinny ricket of a creature who looked close to death......however I would strongly advise you not to do it.
I knew I was taking a huge gamble, but I had the knowledge to help me in the form of the YM and YO where I work.
This dealer was also shut down almost straight away.
My lad had clean limbs sound in both heart and lung, and we aged him as seven. He had a few sores from bad tack and he hardly had the strength to carry himself but there was nothing physical apart from severe malnutrtion.
He took from the september to the Feb to get strong again, his manors to handle remained fantastic, thank god for that, did hour apon hour, of in hand work to build trust.
When I came to ride him I was scared, and he did try it on, he is after all a 16.2 TB x and for the first time in ages he felt good in himself. It could have gone all wrong, but because of the expert help I have had I have been lucky and now have a very nice horse.
However I know I am the exception to the rule, and at any point one wrong decision in the recuperation of this horse could have had me telling you a diferent story.
So my advice to you is not to go there, Im almost two year down the line and have a long way to go yet, and that is with me working with him every day with two of the most knowledgeable horse women I know advising me.
The odd thing about your post is this. My last horse was called Hugo, it went way wrong and I hated him by the end, it was after selling him I found myself at this dealer yard and spotted this sad horse...his name....Oscar. Stay away from Hugo and wait for Oscar.
I knew I was taking a huge gamble, but I had the knowledge to help me in the form of the YM and YO where I work.
This dealer was also shut down almost straight away.
My lad had clean limbs sound in both heart and lung, and we aged him as seven. He had a few sores from bad tack and he hardly had the strength to carry himself but there was nothing physical apart from severe malnutrtion.
He took from the september to the Feb to get strong again, his manors to handle remained fantastic, thank god for that, did hour apon hour, of in hand work to build trust.
When I came to ride him I was scared, and he did try it on, he is after all a 16.2 TB x and for the first time in ages he felt good in himself. It could have gone all wrong, but because of the expert help I have had I have been lucky and now have a very nice horse.
However I know I am the exception to the rule, and at any point one wrong decision in the recuperation of this horse could have had me telling you a diferent story.
So my advice to you is not to go there, Im almost two year down the line and have a long way to go yet, and that is with me working with him every day with two of the most knowledgeable horse women I know advising me.
The odd thing about your post is this. My last horse was called Hugo, it went way wrong and I hated him by the end, it was after selling him I found myself at this dealer yard and spotted this sad horse...his name....Oscar. Stay away from Hugo and wait for Oscar.
henryhorn
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I've read the other replies before answering you and I agree with the majority, leave this horse where he is. if he is as run down as you say, once back to fitness he is likely to be more than you can cope with.
I understand your motives, you felt so sorry for him but as a first horse he is definitely not what you need.
I see you got quite angry with someone saying take an experienced person with you next time, but I think that's what I would advise too. Or at least take a video and load it here so you can have a few unbiased opinions.
When I was dealing my groom and I would walk round a sale yard of 200 horses and by a process of elimination eventually end up with only a couple worth bidding for to sell on. There are so many pitfalls for someone inexperienced it isn't a weakness to ask people's advice, more acknowledging several heads are better than one!
If you had owned dozens of horses before perhaps you are the person to help this gelding, but without the necessary experience you are just as likely to make him
stay difficult. Read that advert. forward going. If a dealer says that about an underfed horse you can bet it will be twice as forward when fed up!!!
This forum is great for helping, but you also need to accept some of the advice offered is from very experienced peple who make a living from horses. They don't
say things to wind you up but to genuinely help.
I understand your motives, you felt so sorry for him but as a first horse he is definitely not what you need.
I see you got quite angry with someone saying take an experienced person with you next time, but I think that's what I would advise too. Or at least take a video and load it here so you can have a few unbiased opinions.
When I was dealing my groom and I would walk round a sale yard of 200 horses and by a process of elimination eventually end up with only a couple worth bidding for to sell on. There are so many pitfalls for someone inexperienced it isn't a weakness to ask people's advice, more acknowledging several heads are better than one!
If you had owned dozens of horses before perhaps you are the person to help this gelding, but without the necessary experience you are just as likely to make him
stay difficult. Read that advert. forward going. If a dealer says that about an underfed horse you can bet it will be twice as forward when fed up!!!
This forum is great for helping, but you also need to accept some of the advice offered is from very experienced peple who make a living from horses. They don't
say things to wind you up but to genuinely help.
MagicMelon
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Someone has asked you: "Do you have the potentially large sums of money available to pay for veterinary treatment and reabilitation?"
You answered - "Yes, to an extent"
But you have also said: "I can just about afford a 2* vetting".
Do you have quite a bit of money or not?! Your 14, so I cannot believe you do. I assume you have your parents money but are they understanding what they are getting into? This horse sounds like it will need a lot of money spent on it. And you say your a strong rider and "the horse is only small" - the size of a horse makes no difference to its strength!!
Im sorry, but I agree you should stay clear. I think you should report this but you'd be crazy to buy it when its got so many problems.
You answered - "Yes, to an extent"
But you have also said: "I can just about afford a 2* vetting".
Do you have quite a bit of money or not?! Your 14, so I cannot believe you do. I assume you have your parents money but are they understanding what they are getting into? This horse sounds like it will need a lot of money spent on it. And you say your a strong rider and "the horse is only small" - the size of a horse makes no difference to its strength!!
Im sorry, but I agree you should stay clear. I think you should report this but you'd be crazy to buy it when its got so many problems.
MagicMelon
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Can I just add, that even though you're crazy
, I do respect you a lot for wanting to help this horse. No horse deserves to go to the meat man and its really sweet of you to want to help it. But at the same time, you have to be realistic in the way of the money / experience etc. you have to give it.
Overall the choice is of course, up to you. If you decide to buy it then I send a huge amount of luck your way. It could work out fine, but just keep in mind it could also end in even more heartbreak.
Overall the choice is of course, up to you. If you decide to buy it then I send a huge amount of luck your way. It could work out fine, but just keep in mind it could also end in even more heartbreak.
JM07
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Apologies, I thought you were a 14 year old girl who had just bought her first pony... I must have you confused with someone else.
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you aren't confused, the poster is 14 yrs old.
and one without a very good memory. Too many posts, too many conflicting situations.
bless her/him!!
Apologies, I thought you were a 14 year old girl who had just bought her first pony... I must have you confused with someone else.
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you aren't confused, the poster is 14 yrs old.
and one without a very good memory. Too many posts, too many conflicting situations.
bless her/him!!
Skhosu
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Sorry, but
'Diorrhea, probably from eating his dirty straw bed (that's what he started doing when we put him back in the stable, he didn't even have a hay net)
- Overgrown teeth, but they didn't seem to trouble him.
- Little gashes on his bum that were probably bites.
- A swollen knee. He wasn't lame though, and I only realised he had it after I'd ridden, poor lad!!!!
- Girth galls.
- A big scar on the inside of his hind leg. This is the only thing that I think may cause permanent problems.
- General thiness.
- Bad breathing. My sister said she'd heard him wheeze, but I didn't, and he didn't puff at all when under the saddle. In face, he had lovely floaty paces! '
How could you not realise about the knee? And did you not look him over before you rode? Or any of the other things?
I am sorry, but definitely take someone more experienced next time, and yes, your heart is in the right place but.....
'Diorrhea, probably from eating his dirty straw bed (that's what he started doing when we put him back in the stable, he didn't even have a hay net)
- Overgrown teeth, but they didn't seem to trouble him.
- Little gashes on his bum that were probably bites.
- A swollen knee. He wasn't lame though, and I only realised he had it after I'd ridden, poor lad!!!!
- Girth galls.
- A big scar on the inside of his hind leg. This is the only thing that I think may cause permanent problems.
- General thiness.
- Bad breathing. My sister said she'd heard him wheeze, but I didn't, and he didn't puff at all when under the saddle. In face, he had lovely floaty paces! '
How could you not realise about the knee? And did you not look him over before you rode? Or any of the other things?
I am sorry, but definitely take someone more experienced next time, and yes, your heart is in the right place but.....
Weezy
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The original post for those interested
Blizzard
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LOL.
Tia
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Gosh...I've just re-read all of this post and I have to say that in light of what we have seen, I find it quite astonishing and actually fairly saddening to see people thinking that this horse is a rescue case.....it really does undermine REAL cases!! Not only that, it wastes resources to save horses who really DO need saving.
LauraBR
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Gosh...I've just re-read all of this post and I have to say that in light of what we have seen, I find it quite astonishing and actually fairly saddening to see people thinking that this horse is a rescue case.....it really does undermine REAL cases!! Not only that, it wastes resources to save horses who really DO need saving.
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I totally agree.
Gosh...I've just re-read all of this post and I have to say that in light of what we have seen, I find it quite astonishing and actually fairly saddening to see people thinking that this horse is a rescue case.....it really does undermine REAL cases!! Not only that, it wastes resources to save horses who really DO need saving.
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I totally agree.
Lady_Bug
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But also absolutely starved. He was supposedly seven years old, but looked eighteen, he was so thin. His spine and ribs stuck out, and even his withers looked bad. Secondly, he had girth galls, a swollen knee, and thousands of cuts and gashes on his legs.
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I don't see any of that in his picture
He looks wormy but other than that OK condition.
But also absolutely starved. He was supposedly seven years old, but looked eighteen, he was so thin. His spine and ribs stuck out, and even his withers looked bad. Secondly, he had girth galls, a swollen knee, and thousands of cuts and gashes on his legs.
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I don't see any of that in his picture