I hate liars!

I'd be having a word with the potential buyers
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Accident waiting to happen
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Muppets!! (them, not you)
 
Well done you for your honesty
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you have potentially saved someone from getting a serious injury, rider or horse as both could have suffered as the result of the horse's actions and the rider not being prepared for it. What if the horse had thrown a paddy on a road, gawd forbid
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It is so awful when this happens!!!!!!!!! I once told a possible buyer about how the horse really behaves and didn't regret is as they were buying it for their teenage daughter who was a complete novice. I dread to think what would have happened if they had bought the horse.

Ideally we should ALL tell the truth when faced with this but its not easy thats for sure.

Such a lot of nasty liars out there. Trouble is a horse is not like a car you can scrap and forget. Unless you PTS you are stuck with it.

I wonder if there would be less of this if there was less stigma and criticism if someone wanted to pts because horse was a rearer/bolter etc and could not sell it......Not saying its right just pondering.
 
whilst i agree with the sentiment behind this (i really do) i don't think "having a word with the buyers" is really on... its one of the things i hate about livery yards...other people interfering
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I was lied to when I bought a previous horse. Seller was not actual owner. I was gullible. It had major issues and reared for Britain lost my nerve competely but couldnt do the same to the next person so sold it to someone who knew its issues for next to nothing.

Found out after it had been sent away for schooling as real owner had lost her nerve.

That was 20 years ago and it still makes me shudder thiking about it.
 
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whilst i agree with the sentiment behind this (i really do) i don't think "having a word with the buyers" is really on... its one of the things i hate about livery yards...other people interfering
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i dont normally interfere at all but i couldnt watch someone get hurt on a dangerous horse
 
I hate to agree with the diggerbez - but it really is not your place to be doing this and the potential consequences to you could be pretty awful. What would you do if you were chucked off the yard, what would you do if the owners retaliated on you.

I am not saying what they are doing is right - but it is not any of your buisness - and you and your own may have to face some pretty nasty repercussions.

Becafeful and watch your back
 
This happened to me. I bought a horse that seemed fine and was told was great so after trying I bought him...well once the sedation wore off he was completely unrideable and totally the wrong horse for me. I just didnt have the experience to deal with such a project. I managed to find a home for him and now have a new horse who is lovely but I was so upset at having to rehome him, my confidence was knocked and the poor horse having yet a new home.

Please let the potential buyers know as it is truly heartbreaking for the new owners and the horse I luckily had friends who have brought him on but......
 
Well I know for one I would have been very glad for someone to have told me before I bought a horse that was being sold with no vices!
My lot are ok so I am not speaking from experience btw as I knew their little quirks -as most horses have them lol- within a short time of getting them, and even before I did.
No what I mean is that if I had gone to see a horse that was being sold to me under a false pretence then I would be glad of the information. Whether that meant I would still take the horse on would be my decision but I would be able to make an informed choice knowing the true characteristics and behaviour of the said horse.
I would not lie to anyone if selling or loaning a horse etc and I would expect at the very least the same courtesy back.
Sorry but shame on those who would think that yard etiquette should come before the safety of horse and rider.
To hell with interference or not. It is morally wrong and in some cases could have dire consequences to sell a horse/pony to someone under false pretences.
I have very strong views on this. What if the horse had been bought for a young rider who was capable yes but not had experience of a horse bolting and rearing. What if the said horse had bolted or reared near to a main road? If the horse could not be properly controlled then it would not only be a danger to the rider and itself but also passers by. If the horse was known to be a rearer/bolter then the purchaser would be buying that horse fully aware and accepting those risks.
If they were not aware the horse had a tendency to do those actions then how could they prepare themselves for instances where it might occur or take steps to keep the horse from possible trigger situations.
Silver Robin, I would have done the same. If people on the yard didn't like it or the owners of the horse didn't, tough ****. I would say shame on the owners for being dishonest and shame on the rest if they watched and stayed out of it for agreeing to a horse being sold under false pretences when someone could have been seriously or fatally injured as a direct consequence.
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I bought a horse that was supposed to be suitable for novice riders, 3 weeks after getting it home, it started bucking, rearing etc, and knocked my confidence badly. I wish someone had told me!!!!!!!
 
i HATE LIARS TO!!!
i was blind for 6 weeks after riding a dangerous horse which according to the owner was fine i fell off after he bolted then afterward she said well what would you expect hes a thoroughbred that hasn't been ridden for 8 months and a good rider would have got back on, how could i have got back on when i was knocked out with concussion and whiplash.
 
I have been in a position where someone tried to sell a very dangerous horse to a dealer with no mention of his vicious nature. I got involved knowing that this horse would probably end up in a sales ring being sold to some unsuspecting buyer who may have children. The horse had previously attacked 2 very experienced trainers whilst being lunged, putting one in hospital after trying to kill him, had there been no one there to pull the horse off then the guy would have been killed. As a mother to a teenage daughter there was no way I was going to allow that horse to be bought by some innocent person. The dealer refused to buy it and the woman begged him to just take it away, he picked it up next day and took it directly to the abbatoir as he had never seen a horse so dangerous (he saw it in action when it escaped the night before when he came to look at it) I have no regrets about becoming involved and would do the same again.
 
I have had to tell potential buyers for other peoples horses the truth too. I do try not to get involved but I just couldn't stand back for this one.

Mare hates hacking by herself/in front of other horses. Rears, naps, bolts...and that's if you can even get her out the yard. Well I had a go one day...and it took 2 hours to do a round the block hack..we destroyed the grass verges from all her spinning!
got back and a potential buyer was there and wanted a nice hacking horse...her young daughter's horse naps a little and has scared said daughter. the yard owner said horse was brilliant out and in fact I have just taken her out!

I had to just warn the owners about...and horse was advertised for £3500 as she is a dressage diva in the school! (she is fine now with a very quiet and very confident rider). But had it not been said then this girl could have ended up badly hurt!
 
Ok I can see some points here BUT when i was in Durham, some spitefull person kept putting off the buyers of a horse that was for sale with stories of napping, rearing bolting etc Why? - they wanted to buy horse at a reduced price from owner - fortuanatly they got caught out !

secondly - what happens if a horse is just not gettting on with its current owner - you could be condeming said horse's fate - i agree if it is a total nutter - to say something - but i would have the balls to do it in an open manner not a sneaky way. If you are going to say something - have the courage of your convicitions and do it where the owners can hear and if necessary defend themsleves and the horse.
 
Well I can say that I would have the said ballls to stand my convictions. If something is wrong or someone/thing is in danger or could be then I will speak my mind. Whether that would be in front of the owner or not I cannot say for sure as it depends on the situation at the time. But if I did say something and was later asked I would have the guts to turn around and say yes I did and why.
Luckily I have never had to be in that situation yet regarding a horse being sold, but if I ever was I would stand by whatever I uttered at the time.
I would much rather risk having an argument with someone later than stand back and watch some unfortunate souls get duped or be sold a horse that could either end up putting someone in hospital or else injuring itself if the new owner couldn't control it due to lack of experience or a lack of previous knowledge.
Furthermore with reference to your first point then if what the person was saying about the horse was a total fabrication then shame on them for their dishonesty as I don't agree with what that person did either.
I would only comment personally on issues I had witnessed myself or from what the rider or owner had told me about how the horse had acted ie rear, bolt, nap etc
 
but to me its up to the buyer to be careful...so get the horse vetted and have bloods taken, try it several times, take experienced people with you etc etc... the danger with interfering and saying something is that you might not have the full story...at the most i would personally talk to the current owner only...but guess this is where i differ from most people. in my experience most (not all before i get jumped on, some people are just unlucky) people who end up with "nutters" haven't done their homework before buying or have ovehorsed themselves against the advice of others
 
People will say anything when money is involved. I knew a couple selling an 18 year old "schoolmaster" which "had seen hounds" and had no vices. Said schoolmaster was as long as a liner and as stiff as a board on one rein, hadn't hunted in living memory (the hounds may have gone past on the road I suppose) and weaved for England. They took the weaving grill down before anyone came to look at him! He also had the worst feet in history, being a 17.1 horse with 14hh feet so they kept cracking and collapsing under his weight. The farrier used more plastic filler than metal on them.
 
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