Someone has just pm'd me explaining who Puddicat actually is, and it seems yes he does have the expertise to respond.
It also explains why he always tells you to ask your vet.....
I think perhaps we have run this thread it's course now, I do think twice before responding these days but will continue to try and help anyone I can.
I would be unhappy if the only route for extra advice would be a second opinion from a vet, misguided though some advice on here may be, it's always up to the individual to use their own common sense and do their best for their horse, no-one tells them to follow the advice slavishly..
Well I for one hope he doesn't disappear of the face of the planet. He seems to take a great deal of time and thought into how he responds to some posts and presents information clearly and logically. Is he always perfect, no! But if some people took the time to read and really try to understand what he writes without getting overemotional about things then they could learn a hell of a lot.
Would it not be an idea if Puddicat told us all who he is. I appreciate there may be a good reason why he cannot, but, as someone who does seem to give good advice, it might help those of us in the dark to make a more informed view.
QR. I hope he sticks around, he is one of the few people on here capable of being rational. I expect he was making a point, that as so often happens, has flown over the heads of the H&H illuminati.
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! But if some people took the time to read and really try to understand what he writes without getting overemotional about things then they could learn a hell of a lot.
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hmmm, evidence over anecdote? some people will never get that
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QR. I hope he sticks around, he is one of the few people on here capable of being rational. I expect he was making a point, that as so often happens, has flown over the heads of the H&H illuminati.
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I saw the offending post in question and IMHO he was just making a point. I also suspect he likes to be a bit tongue in cheek sometimes, which gets taken far too literally by lots of people on here.
I would also like to point out that the user in question gave me the only practical and good advice I received on here when my pony had to have an operation earlier this year....I got a lot of well wishes, which were appreciated, but the actual advice and knowledge was only given by him....
i don't see a real problem with keeping information at all.
if its Kosher info, as opposed to "hearsay", "chinese whispers",
"he said she said" or some of the "sheep-like following" that some people on, not only this forum, but others too seem to offer.....
it should be kept and shared with others if it will/can do some good for future enquiries.
what possible harm can it do if the info that is offered/kept is "checkable"??
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Someone has just pm'd me explaining who Puddicat actually is, and it seems yes he does have the expertise to respond.
It also explains why he always tells you to ask your vet.....
I think perhaps we have run this thread it's course now, I do think twice before responding these days but will continue to try and help anyone I can.
I would be unhappy if the only route for extra advice would be a second opinion from a vet, misguided though some advice on here may be, it's always up to the individual to use their own common sense and do their best for their horse, no-one tells them to follow the advice slavishly..
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hope you have been told who PC really is HH, not something that some one may ASSUME he is???
I think it would be very sad for people to stop posting in this forum. It is obvious that a vet should be used to diagnose as injury/ailment but it is often the anecdotes, experiences and tales of hope that really help if your horse is ill. On the other hand minor ailments do not always warrant a vet visit and it is good to know that more experienced horse owners can offer reassurance and practical advice.
Fundamental to offering good advice is often how it is interpreted by the reader, what someone may feel is straght-talking practicality another may feel patronised or offended. I think Puddicat tends to offer good advice but could maybe learn a thing or two about tact!!
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ooh, I dunno. There are plenty of others in here that pride themselves on being straight talkers and will tell you such at every available opportunity-dont see many of them getting slammed for it?
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I think Puddicat tends to offer good advice but could maybe learn a thing or two about tact!!
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ooh, I dunno. There are plenty of others in here that pride themselves on being straight talkers and will tell you such at every available opportunity-dont see many of them getting slammed for it?
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LOL - in a way that is quite true. Though you might find that they cause the odd ruckus.
I appreciate almost everyone's viewpoint - may not agree with all, but appreciate it! It's impossible to deny that Puddicat is one of the most knowledgable users on here and it would be a shame if he were to stop posting. What concerned me was the 1000 posts thing....................
Actually, I've just remembered I once posted my experience doing exactly what my vet recommended and Puddicat gave me a grilling for it... so it seems that at times you just can't win, even though the treatment worked.
I like Puddicat's 'points to ponder'/discussion type posts they raise lots of interesting questions and let to good discussions. Hope he isn't put off by all this kerfuffle.
Ihave to say that when i started reading the vet forum as an ex vet nurse i was absolutely amazed at the wealth of knowledge that was shared on this sight and think it so sad that someone is so small minded as this person. I think you are all so wonderfully experienced and willing to help each other out and support each other through rough times. Sometimes i pass on info that i have learnt from my vet days, it was in the states so is sometimes a bit way out! i only post things with the intention of a suggestion or an experience or a 'this worked for me' situation.
On the same vein as the syrup suggestion!!! Mayonnaise really does work for sun bleached coats, straight up, no joke!!!!
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On the same vein as the syrup suggestion!!! Mayonnaise really does work for sun bleached coats, straight up, no joke!!!!
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It most certainly does!!! Adds wonderful condition to the coat too!! Done that a few times in the US - I thought they were stark raving bonkers at first, but blow me it worked!! Stinks though!!
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On the same vein as the syrup suggestion!!! Mayonnaise really does work for sun bleached coats, straight up, no joke!!!!
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It most certainly does!!! Adds wonderful condition to the coat too!! Done that a few times in the US - I thought they were stark raving bonkers at first, but blow me it worked!! Stinks though!!
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in the same way that adding honey to the final rinse will smooth down a slightly dry coat - of course if you smear them in the stuff they will just be sticky
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Ever since one forum member told me he keeps records of replies on here (he told one person he had read all 1000 of her posts!) to enable him to report to the media the bad information that is given on vet forums I feel worried when I reply to someone.
I did tell him I felt his actions were not in the spirit of the forums which was to offer help to anyone who asked, and no-one needs to follow it, just make an informed choice, but it seems he is worried about possible litigation following bad advice..
Now I am wary of saying very much, and wondered if others felt the same?
Do you feel Big Brother is watching us or couldn't you give a stuff!
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can I just ask why you've got your knickers in a twist so badly over this? just re read the thread in question and PC admitted he misread Amymays' post and explained he way of writing (which some of us took in the spirit it was given).All he said was that it was possible that the threads could be used-certainly not that he was thinking of using them.
I think a couple of you HHOers have had your noses put out of joint by him, couldnt take the competition and didnt like his uncompromising position on certain issues.
So we get a thread seeking validation and possibly lose a valuable member of the forum.
I am sorry but I not prepared to make public my PM's from Puddicat, but will say I took exception to his intention to "police" the vet forum by sending information to H and H pointing out the faults in the advice given.
I genuinely don't feel anyone should interfere other than admin, and I do feel uncomfortable replying these days, knowing anything I say may be passed on as an example.
I haven't had my nose put out in the slightest, I simply wrote how I felt.
I would hate anyone to think any of us were viewed as "competition", to my mind the whole spirit of the forum is that we can bounce ideas off each other and share experiences and advice, I for one freely admit I love learning from here, it's a good mix of people from inexperienced to professionals.
I do not think for a minute he will leave the forum, people often threaten but then rarely do! (incidentally at no point did I mention leaving or not posting, just that I no longer felt as easy about posting anymore.)
I have already said once perhaps this is time to put this post to bed, but when you post replies like this of course it carries on!
If anything this thread may remind us all that we should perhaps think twice before posting a solution to a problem on here.. Something Puddicat is always careful to do, I'm no cat hater believe me
Im sure Puddicat would be delighted he has caused such a debate, and without even being present
I still feel there has been a little over reaction, but hopefully advice (and debate!) will continue on this forum as it always has done, without the loss of any much loved contributors.
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ooh, I dunno. There are plenty of others in here that pride themselves on being straight talkers and will tell you such at every available opportunity-dont see many of them getting slammed for it?
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I fully agree that there are lots of people who believe that they are straight-talkers but actually come across as downright rude! But I haven't ever slated anyone for it as it is often difficult to interpret true meanings from quickly written posts.
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I think Puddicat tends to offer good advice but could maybe learn a thing or two about tact!!
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ooh, I dunno. There are plenty of others in here that pride themselves on being straight talkers and will tell you such at every available opportunity-dont see many of them getting slammed for it?
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I fully agree that there are lots of people who believe that they are straight-talkers but actually come across as downright rude! But I haven't ever slated anyone for it as it is often difficult to interpret true meanings from quickly written posts.