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You have just done it AGAIN - that was my quote and you replied to sugar! You rock too much? You've drunk too much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PSML!!!!
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i actually dont know how im doing it
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I'm glad you can see where I'm coming from
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I actually really value the input from mature younger members like yourself - it's sometimes easy to forget that I was young once.
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And in relation to me taking advice from older people, that's only when a younger person couldn't really be expected to know the answer, ie if I was asking for flattering big pants for middle aged spread.
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However, if I wanted advice on a particular bit for example, and you used that bit on your horse, your input would be far more valuable to me than an older person who hadn't used it.

It's all about things balancing out really.
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You know what? I think that you are extremely patronising. You know nothing whatso ever about the situation I am in, and for your information I am 100% totally and utterly responisble for my horse and everything that goes with him. And as for not taking things personally- it is rather hard, when you make such statements, and I actually dont care what you think of me, because at the end of the day, I am pretty much prepared for any situation that arises with my horses, be it if there is people around or not and thats the end of it, Im not going to spend my evening getting caught up in a disagreement.

ETA: i know I sound very fired up, not meant to sound like that, but thats how its coming out! sorry
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That is very interesting Tia.
I myself have not been a forum member long and would probably fit into the 'young people' box as I am only 18.
I am unsure what peoples opinions of me are on here also.
I wouldn't class myself as experienced, yes I have been around horses since i was born and I have had my own horse since 9 and riding since 3 but I wouldn't say that classes me as experienced.
And I do feel as though I am overlooked on here, due to me being new, only 18 and far from as experinced as the more mature memeber such as Tia, Weezy/etc.

Yes I have experienced horses of different temprements, nappy horses, sane horses, ones with different conditions, ones prone to colic, and so on and so forth.
I feel confident in myself to get on a deal with an emergency situation I have had to on several occasions, I know the horses I deal with better than I know myself and if I felt something was seriously not right with them I would call the vet but if they were just not themselves I would happily take their TPR and check their capillary re-fil and wait before I called the vet. I have also had to remove a shoe and feel confident enough to do it again if the situation occured.

I am on my own, I have my horses at home there are no horsey people around me at all. As I am on my own and there is something I want advice over (non-emergency) I would happily ask on here as the majority of the time I have my own idea as to how to deal with the situation, and ask on here to have my ideas confirmed by more experienced people. If I am asking something I have NO idea about I would ask for advice but also do my own research if it is possible.

I do put people in a box, I put eveyone in a box well above me when it comes to knowledge (with a few exceptions).
The advice given on here and the experiences people have had on here really make my knowledge feel very inferior (sp?) the fact I have no self belief doesn't help.
But being on here makes me realise how little I know and have experience in dispite being around and handling horses and I do not feel ashamed to admit it. As we have all being inexperienced whether it was at 19yro, 28 yro or 43 yro. We all have to learn, and we all gain experience at different speeds.

I would try not to give advice on a subject I am not sure on.
And I do not put that I agree just to make myself knowlegable if I agree with something it is of my own accord not because someone more expeiences claim to agree also.
At the end of the day it is up to the OP to take the advice given, granted people shouldn't give advice if they don't have a clue but people shouldn't accept advice if they don't feel 100% about it.

Sorry for going on about.
 
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You know what? I think that you are extremely patronising.

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Ahh, getting personal eh? How mature.

I think that statement says far more about you, than it does about me...
 
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I'm glad you can see where I'm coming from

I actually really value the input from mature younger members like yourself - it's sometimes easy to forget that I was young once.

And in relation to me taking advice from older people, that's only when a younger person couldn't really be expected to know the answer, ie if I was asking for flattering big pants for middle aged spread.

However, if I wanted advice on a particular bit for example, and you used that bit on your horse, your input would be far more valuable to me than an older person who hadn't used it.

It's all about things balancing out really.

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you know Dubble - that made perfect sense, and i think is a very simple way of putting what a lot of people were kind of thinking
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point clocked, logged and learnt
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You know what? I think that you are extremely patronising.

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Ahh, getting personal eh? How mature.

I think that statement says far more about you, than it does about me...

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erm no, not personal
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personal would be hurling abuse at you, not my style. And all that statement says about me is that my impression of you is that what you just said was patronising.. so I dont really know what you are getting at.
 
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How on earth was dubble patronising? You couldnt POSSIBLY know which 4x4 handles the best when towing for example!

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I wasnt talking about that, I was talking about the last post she made to me.. and I never said I did know which 4x4 handles the best when towing!!
 
How rude!
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Sheesh... apologies if this sounds harsh but I honestly think you are doing a disservice to the 'younger members' you are trying to defend.
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ETS- PLEASE Hannah re read the thread and read it carefully... you are jumping off the deep end for no good reason!
 
I understand where dubs is coming from, I actually wrote, then deleted from my post above:
*Unfortunately Hannah your outburst has done nothing but drive home the fact that you are not yet an adult - do remember that with age comes experience, and the ability to be humble and not get worked up*

I am not getting into a debate about this, as I have stated my comments regarding age were not to do with experience. No one cares what age people are if they are giving good advice and they certainly will not be, as you put it earlier, ignored because of age.
 
Sorry Weezy, i did not see the edited version of your post. The only reason I get worked up is because I work hard to keep my horses, and then people imply that I do not have total and utter responisibilty for them-which I do- and I think after that it went off the track alot.

It doesnt matter how old I am- Ill still get worked up when someone upsets me, it doesnt happen often, however that is just how I am. Nothing will change that!

ETA: nope Im not Izt, I did say the very first thing I posted that it was probably off the track, then proceeded to put my view, and so far have only replied to those regarding that post!.
 
No one has questioned your ability to care for your horses, be assured of that. However, as a minor, you do NOT have 100% responsibility of your horses and that is a fact - should they do someone/something an injury for example, it is your parents who ARE responsible.

Top tip, write a post, breathe, re-read before slamming on the Continue button
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You know what? I think that you are extremely patronising.

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Ahh, getting personal eh? How mature.

I think that statement says far more about you, than it does about me...

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erm no, not personal
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personal would be hurling abuse at you, not my style. And all that statement says about me is that my impression of you is that what you just said was patronising.. so I dont really know what you are getting at.

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Oh dear...
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You didn't say that you thought what I'd said was patronising - rather you stated that I was patronising - hence it is a personal comment, as opposed to a general one.

Bit like me saying you are a drama queen, instead of saying I think you act like a drama queen - one is a personal comment, the other is a general one. Not that I would ever think such a thing of course...
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I did not accuse you of 'hurling abuse' either.
 
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You didn't say that you thought what I'd said was patronising - rather you stated that I was patronising - hence it is a personal comment, as opposed to a general one.

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I rather thought that you being an adult would realise that as I dont know you at all, I only have what you have said to me to judge- therefore I do think you are patronising towards me.

And being a drama queen and acting like one? Well how is that different? And as for that implication, I probably am, but from where I am standing I am merely expressing how I feel.

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I did not accuse you of 'hurling abuse' either

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I never said you did
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Okay *takes a deep breath*. Whilst I can see EXACTLY where you (I.e Dubble, Weexy etc) are coming from with your points, i,e responsibility of a horse (personally I agree to an extent with that, I do pay what I can but I would be lost without parents), I am, like the lovely person I am
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, coming to Hannahs rescue a tad.
She is very quick to defend what she believes to be the right POV. Right or wrong that is what she believes and she will fight to the end of the earth to prove she is right! As she does this, because we have not had the life experience you guys have had (no ageism intended there!). It can sound like she is being a tad brash. She honestly doesn't mean to be but it is just how it comes out. Its much easier to hear where she is coming from when you can actually hear her! Some of the things she said to me, written down I would take completely the wrong way (mind you, I said she loves the sound of her own voice!)!
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Chucking ones toys out of the pram rarely helps anybodys cause.
You're obviously very mature, (like Hattikins), and are a credit to the younger members on here.
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Ooops does that sound patronising??
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Right off for a soak in the bath. ttfn.
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If I know about something I try to give advice. If I don't I keep quiet so as to not look like a t:t!

I tend to look at advice people give and decide which is the best course of action, although there are a few members who I respect a lot.

I do on the other hand ignore some advice totally, being told to throw myself off Dan when he takes off and call his name to stop him taking off being top of my list
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I dont come on here often anyway, so Im just gonna go and let you guys get on with giving each other the advice, and Ill go and do my thing with my horses. End of story- sorry Tia it went off track rather alot!
 
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I'm glad you can see where I'm coming from
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I actually really value the input from mature younger members like yourself - it's sometimes easy to forget that I was young once.
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And in relation to me taking advice from older people, that's only when a younger person couldn't really be expected to know the answer, ie if I was asking for flattering big pants for middle aged spread.
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However, if I wanted advice on a particular bit for example, and you used that bit on your horse, your input would be far more valuable to me than an older person who hadn't used it.

It's all about things balancing out really.
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You know dubble I see totally where you are coming from. Made PERFECT sense to me. I get a lot of help from my parents and YO on my pony and riding and I look up especially to my dad and YO more than I do to most people and value their advice very highly, but certain others may know more about a certain topic from 1st hand experience than them. With things regarding things like school work etc I usually ask people who have been there done that. I love helpful comments here from older people and love input from people my age too. But knowledge comes from experience and experience usually comes with time and along the way there are people there to guide you, expand your knowlegde, and give you advie for you to then share to others!!!

"And in relation to me taking advice from older people, that's only when a younger person couldn't really be expected to know the answer, ie if I was asking for flattering big pants for middle aged spread.
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that made me chuckle so like my mum lmao.

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back on topic because I'm too tired to read through 9 pages to find what the new topic is...

I don't think I put anyone in boxes as such, I don't think i've been on here long enough to have established enough about people top do that, and also I think it is very difficult to make a sound judgement on people you have never actually met, it can be very difficult to convey a meaning by typing it as it lacks the tone and body language etc...
If I had a major problem I would deal with it to the best of my ability until the vet could get there, maybe would post about it after but would never use this as my first port of call. I use it more for opinions, I always have my own ideas of how to deal with something and what I should do, but its sometimes nice to here someone would do the same, or to get some other ideas to try.
 
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I'm glad you can see where I'm coming from
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I actually really value the input from mature younger members like yourself - it's sometimes easy to forget that I was young once.
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And in relation to me taking advice from older people, that's only when a younger person couldn't really be expected to know the answer, ie if I was asking for flattering big pants for middle aged spread.
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However, if I wanted advice on a particular bit for example, and you used that bit on your horse, your input would be far more valuable to me than an older person who hadn't used it.

It's all about things balancing out really.
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You know dubble I see totally where you are coming from. Made PERFECT sense to me. I get a lot of help from my parents and YO on my pony and riding and I look up especially to my dad and YO more than I do to most people and value their advice very highly, but certain others may know more about a certain topic from 1st hand experience than them. With things regarding things like school work etc I usually ask people who have been there done that. I love helpful comments here from older people and love input from people my age too. But knowledge comes from experience and experience usually comes with time and along the way there are people there to guide you, expand your knowlegde, and give you advie for you to then share to others!!!

"And in relation to me taking advice from older people, that's only when a younger person couldn't really be expected to know the answer, ie if I was asking for flattering big pants for middle aged spread.
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that made me chuckle so like my mum lmao.

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OMG Madgirl, I never even realised that you still live with your parents! From all the posts I've read, I thought you were at least eighty!
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You, and the two others I mentioned, have actually proved that some younger members have way more maturity than I gave them credit for, and for that I apologise unreservedly.
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And you may not understand the finer points about big pants, but that is a GOOD thing. Your time will come...
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Christ, reading this post has made me a little bit paranoid about which 'box' I'm in, anyone else feel like that? Although I'm probably guilty of putting people in boxes myself. Thing is I don't post that much, because most of the time if someone has asked a question that I may have an answer to, someone else has already said what I was thinking, and there's no point repeating it. If I ask for advice I choose carefully which bits to take, but that has more to do with how easy it is for me to implicate said advice and how much sense it makes/how well the reasoning behind it is explained, rather than who posted the advice. There are some people on here that I know in RL, or know by reputation at least, not sure how many of them know me though, whom I naturally trust more than others I don't know.
Oh dear, I waffle on a bit, my night in with the green fairy is not having a positive effect on my thought processes I think
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paranoid?every time i write a little letter in one of these little box things the whole thread stringy thing dries up and everybody goes away.it is addictive though but know i must check weather and go to bed.ialways start the week in a very enthusiastic way and ride out early on a monday morning.at least i not a stranger anymore.
 
Hehe, I know what you mean, I sometimes feel like the conversation stopper as well, don't know why that is. Maybe because we're fairly new we're not as trusted yet, or people worry that we might take things the wrong way? Well, just so you don't feel like you're the person to end this thread i'll reply to your post.
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(BTW Only another 3 posts and i'll be a journeyman i think
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