CorvusCorax
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Slightly Larger Gobshite is probably still smaller than you're looking for, the hair is very deceptive!! Only 60.5cm at the withers.
If all the things ive been called cruel for
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P3LH
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Routinely, usually from people (including friends or relatives) who’s dogs are yobs.
I take no shit and have high expectations of my dogs. I always have but probably slightly more so with this line up because one of mine (despite being well bred, well socialised and well brought up) would be a person biting bully/probably have gotten herself into serious trouble without firm boundaries. No thank you.
The list is endless:
-actually telling them off for poor behaviour and making sure they know I’m not happy with them
-telling them off if they have any crossed words between themselves (it’s a non negotiable here)
-not letting them sleep on the bed
-not letting them pull on lead
-not let them kick off with other dogs
-Not letting them play with every dog we meet
-keeping the one who is too stubborn for recall on a long line
-not having them jump all over me when I come home
-not constantly wanting them in my face/pestering me when I am at home
-making sure they have down time
-not taking them to other people’s houses if there’s a social gathering (pet hate of mine)
-not having a free access to toys policy (I’ve got one who is a resource guarder and one who doesn’t switch off from ‘stuff’ so we have allocated play time)
- having dogs PTS when they’ve become ill with things that a) can’t be fixed or b) could possibly be managed but at the detriment of their quality of life (always do it too soon Im told)
-beginning puppy searching soon after losing a dog (I don’t care enough apparently)
- having rehomed in the past when a) dog wasn’t in the right setting and needed more than we could offer even with restructuring our whole life or b)wasn’t cut out for living as part of a pack
-not allowing free flow to food all day
-having my bitch speyed (go figure?)
-using crates
-using puppy pens
-still using a puppy pen for 16 month old because a) he loves to chew and b) he and my eldest male go from loving one and other to aggravating each other very quickly/plus my bitch is a world dictator and young dog is foolish enough not to leave her to it
-time outs/banishments to another room if they’ve really gone too far and don’t deserve their faces to be seen until they’ve made better life choices and showed me they can follow the rules
-encouraging youngest who is an observant and quiet type into doing things - without encouragement he’d be a dog scared of his own shadow/who didn’t do much but sleep and eat and be dopes
-expecting them to exhibit basic manners in day to day life seems to be the upshot.
I take no shit and have high expectations of my dogs. I always have but probably slightly more so with this line up because one of mine (despite being well bred, well socialised and well brought up) would be a person biting bully/probably have gotten herself into serious trouble without firm boundaries. No thank you.
The list is endless:
-actually telling them off for poor behaviour and making sure they know I’m not happy with them
-telling them off if they have any crossed words between themselves (it’s a non negotiable here)
-not letting them sleep on the bed
-not letting them pull on lead
-not let them kick off with other dogs
-Not letting them play with every dog we meet
-keeping the one who is too stubborn for recall on a long line
-not having them jump all over me when I come home
-not constantly wanting them in my face/pestering me when I am at home
-making sure they have down time
-not taking them to other people’s houses if there’s a social gathering (pet hate of mine)
-not having a free access to toys policy (I’ve got one who is a resource guarder and one who doesn’t switch off from ‘stuff’ so we have allocated play time)
- having dogs PTS when they’ve become ill with things that a) can’t be fixed or b) could possibly be managed but at the detriment of their quality of life (always do it too soon Im told)
-beginning puppy searching soon after losing a dog (I don’t care enough apparently)
- having rehomed in the past when a) dog wasn’t in the right setting and needed more than we could offer even with restructuring our whole life or b)wasn’t cut out for living as part of a pack
-not allowing free flow to food all day
-having my bitch speyed (go figure?)
-using crates
-using puppy pens
-still using a puppy pen for 16 month old because a) he loves to chew and b) he and my eldest male go from loving one and other to aggravating each other very quickly/plus my bitch is a world dictator and young dog is foolish enough not to leave her to it
-time outs/banishments to another room if they’ve really gone too far and don’t deserve their faces to be seen until they’ve made better life choices and showed me they can follow the rules
-encouraging youngest who is an observant and quiet type into doing things - without encouragement he’d be a dog scared of his own shadow/who didn’t do much but sleep and eat and be dopes
-expecting them to exhibit basic manners in day to day life seems to be the upshot.
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P3LH
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Probably the best example I can think of was on a friends related/social dog walk. An acquaintances dog, with no manners, started something and the tank decided to finish it.
To give her her dues amidst my many criticisms, she never starts anything with strange dogs, but will put them in their place over poor manners and doesn’t tolerate any fighting or rough housing between others - she’s like an old school mistress. This dog flipped her on her back and grabbed her by her under jaw - playing I was told. More accurately it was trying to mount her repeatedly despite my best telling off, she was having none of it so the other dog got a bit handmaids tale.
I know that a) corgis are like terriers when they decide to scrap and b) they have probably the greatest PSI bite force of a small dog that I’ve ever encountered (and that’s factoring a lot of working terriers!). They also have incredible speed when using aforementioned jaws, which one would deduce is from their origin as heelers with cattle. Even receiving accidental nips when playing with them have caused bad bruises, sprained wrists etc over the years.
It got spicy rather quickly and i knew she wasn’t interested in having her say, telling him off and letting bygones be bygones. The only way I could get madam off was to scruff her and drag her away. She had already tore the other dogs ear cleanly in two and more. The acquaintance was livid with me and said I was awful/cruel/a bully - more interested in if the tank was okay because I had scruff her, than their own dog - who was still ignoring their recall. Screamed and said she had blood all over her head - I pointed out it wasn’t hers and that is why I had pulled her off, but I could let them continue if she would rather?
You can’t reason with some people’s mindsets. I sadly group them with the same as those who keep a dying dog dragging itself towards the grave - often well meaning but poorly informed. And of course some are just stupid. There are lots of stupid people who have dogs.
To give her her dues amidst my many criticisms, she never starts anything with strange dogs, but will put them in their place over poor manners and doesn’t tolerate any fighting or rough housing between others - she’s like an old school mistress. This dog flipped her on her back and grabbed her by her under jaw - playing I was told. More accurately it was trying to mount her repeatedly despite my best telling off, she was having none of it so the other dog got a bit handmaids tale.
I know that a) corgis are like terriers when they decide to scrap and b) they have probably the greatest PSI bite force of a small dog that I’ve ever encountered (and that’s factoring a lot of working terriers!). They also have incredible speed when using aforementioned jaws, which one would deduce is from their origin as heelers with cattle. Even receiving accidental nips when playing with them have caused bad bruises, sprained wrists etc over the years.
It got spicy rather quickly and i knew she wasn’t interested in having her say, telling him off and letting bygones be bygones. The only way I could get madam off was to scruff her and drag her away. She had already tore the other dogs ear cleanly in two and more. The acquaintance was livid with me and said I was awful/cruel/a bully - more interested in if the tank was okay because I had scruff her, than their own dog - who was still ignoring their recall. Screamed and said she had blood all over her head - I pointed out it wasn’t hers and that is why I had pulled her off, but I could let them continue if she would rather?
You can’t reason with some people’s mindsets. I sadly group them with the same as those who keep a dying dog dragging itself towards the grave - often well meaning but poorly informed. And of course some are just stupid. There are lots of stupid people who have dogs.
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SaddlePsych'D
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Oh god the 'it's their walk not yours' thing drives me nuts! Actually, it is my walk too. It is actually allowed to be an enjoyable experience for both of us. No I don't want to stand blocking the pavement every two seconds and I would rather get to a nicer spot for the sniffing so that we can both relax. If it means her missing out on sniffing every wheely bin down the street, we will survive, she will still get to sniff, it will still be a good walk!
Sometimes I feel self conscious teaching 'leave it' out in public because I say it quite firmly but to me it's essential to practice when it's not really needed (i.e., bin sniffing) so that it's a skill in place for when it really is needed (i.e., stray chicken bones)!
CrunchieBoi
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I feel that, as our dogs are off-lead 99% of the time, they can damn well walk properly for the 1% of the time they're on a lead and that means no pulling or planting of feet. We're well out in the sticks so I don't tend to encounter many other folk but I imagine some of the Lovejoy's would give us a glare if they heard me bellowing at the dogs.
Leave it is such an important command for them to learn but I know what you mean.
ArklePig
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I got judged again today for mentioning her recall has got to the point where we can have off lead walk in un enclosed places. Apparently she will; get kidnapped (they'd give her back only a mother could put up with her), get lost, get hit by a car (zero possibility I would let her off where this is a remote possibility), or hurt herself (I mean she could, but she also regularly slides off the sofa head first and appears to be fine).
l will admit to being a sniffy walk w@nker though.
In my defence she gets a boring on lead walk in the mornings and the real fun tends to happen in the evenings. The more she sniffs the easier a day we both have. She'll bloody well move when she's told to though and I don't allow her to get in people's way.
Also I'm kind of lazy and half asleep at that hour so the pace suits me ?
l will admit to being a sniffy walk w@nker though.
In my defence she gets a boring on lead walk in the mornings and the real fun tends to happen in the evenings. The more she sniffs the easier a day we both have. She'll bloody well move when she's told to though and I don't allow her to get in people's way.
Also I'm kind of lazy and half asleep at that hour so the pace suits me ?