If this was your Pony WWYD - getting desperate now

Blondie1 said:
Hi, the thread from Sept 2011 is him but not the other 2. Sold Archie a while ago.
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Ok, so your current horse was fine until say August 2011. Then in September 2011 you posted saying he "went slightly nuts" when schooling - bucked, reared and bolted and had also been bucking for a few weeks prior to this when out hacking. Previously he was a "normally cool calm collected pony who can do no wrong".

Just quoting the above points to save others having to go back to the previous thread.

To me that screams pain of some sort. I agree with some of the others - change vet, get full work up, bloods etc and take it from there. This pony needs you to do this otherwise he will continue to be in pain. Good luck and keep us posted. x
 
joeanne said:
You are spoilt for choice with fantasitic vets there.
Adam Jackson or Dietrich from Southern Hills are both excellent vets (although Adam is far kinder on the eye!).
Or Chris or Olivia at Sound Equine.
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One of these suggestions is my vet - and he was highly reccomended to me but all he seems to do is keep taking bloods : (
 
Sorry stoopid phone sent too soon...scoping not particularly distressing. if you're at guildford id take him to liphook as they'vegot all the equipment on site. i use Stuart Duncan who's fab
 
Then unless there is more to this than you are saying, I can't imagine why the horse has not been scoped for ulcers.
Adam would be my choice of vet, as he is no nonsense, close by, and really knows his stuff.
 
Blondie1 said:
One of these suggestions is my vet - and he was highly reccomended to me but all he seems to do is keep taking bloods : (
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There's nothing wrong with that.

In your shoes, I'd now go back to him and ask him to do a full work up, including a scope for ulcers. We haven't been privy to your discussions with him, but to my mind they've done nothing wrong. Each time a blood test has shown a problem. You can as the client be proactive in the treatment, and push for more investigations to be done.
 
nikicb said:
Ok, so your current horse was fine until say August 2011. Then in September 2011 you posted saying he "went slightly nuts" when schooling - bucked, reared and bolted and had also been bucking for a few weeks prior to this when out hacking. Previously he was a "normally cool calm collected pony who can do no wrong".

Just quoting the above points to save others having to go back to the previous thread.

To me that screams pain of some sort. I agree with some of the others - change vet, get full work up, bloods etc and take it from there. This pony needs you to do this otherwise he will continue to be in pain. Good luck and keep us posted. x
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YES All of this is correct. Sorry to miss those bits out - its all becoming a bit of a blurr as its been going on for so long.
 
Blondie1 said:
One of these suggestions is my vet - and he was highly reccomended to me but all he seems to do is keep taking bloods : (
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I don't know which one is your vet but I had a disagreement about how one of them treated a cut on my horse many years ago. He didn't stitch a cut that really did need stitching and the whole thing rumbled on for months. The only reason I used him was because I moved to the yard that day and my old vet didn't cover my new area. Never again. After that we used Brookmead in Cranleigh and they were great, but they've stopped doing equine other than for 2nd opinions. But maybe worth a call. I'm out of that area now so can't offer any more recommendations, but I'm sure there are plenty that can.
 
Blondie1 said:
YES All of this is correct. Sorry to miss those bits out - its all becoming a bit of a blurr as its been going on for so long.
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Only because you haven't been back to your vet! :mad:

OP sounds to me like you are being fleeced good and proper. How much money has this woman taken from you??

I am HORRIFIED that anyone would proceed with a "horse communicator" in this way. As for being given the all clear to get back on by this woman...I'm disgusted. Not having a go at you OP am more furious with this woman for believing she can treat your horse for you and convincing you of that!

I find it hideously unethical and downright irresponsible, if not cruel. If she wants to market herself in this way she should be making it clear it's a bit of fun, NOT a cure-all!

Get the poor lad back to the vet pronto and let him proceed as he would have done all those months ago. Also, if the problems she "diagnosed" were correct, wouldn't this have shown up in the blood tests??

Not much makes me p|ssy but this really does. Poor, poor horse!
 
If you are looking for a vet that covers Guildford area - I would suggest the Liphook Equine Hospital. If you google them you will find the details.

I would try and get an appointment with Eamon.
 
At the risk of upsetting, I would say the OP got a communicator out and dispensed with the vets advice, when it was probably prudent to carry on with investigations.
Perhaps a communicator was cheaper than the vets.......
OP now needs to get the vet back out and start the diagnosis process all over again....and this time stick it out!
 
Thank you everyone for your replies.

You have all been a great help. I will get my vet back out and be firm with what i would like doing.
 
Some points spring out..

1. Liphook. You may well need a referral?
2. Iridology (can't spell it) is not animal communication and does work on humans but I would not have had this in place of a vet
3. When you bought your pony back into work after a good long break, starting him off in lunge work at walk and trot was way too much. He should have been walking out for a good few weeks (stressing the walk only) to build up muscular strength. If he was bucking etc on the lunge,, there is an excellent chance he will have pulled something and be very sore. If you could not ride, then would have suggested long reining. It would be like you sitting on a couch for 6 months, then suddenly heading into the gym for intense classes every day. Lunging is hard on horses..
4. The windsucking, which started when you cut the hay back. Its very hard to pinpoint what causes windsucking or how to stop it but in this instance, I would have upped his hay again, soaked if necessary and definatley looked at the prospect of ulcers.

So in summary, I think you have a pony in pain and as the others said, you need a good equine vet out to give him a proper check over, and if necessary scope him (which would probably mean a trip to Liphook) We use Shotters and Byers and Steve Brooks at our yard, both are very good.
 
Luci07 said:
Some points spring out..

1. Liphook. You may well need a referral?
2. Iridology (can't spell it) is not animal communication and does work on humans but I would not have had this in place of a vet
3. When you bought your pony back into work after a good long break, starting him off in lunge work at walk and trot was way too much. He should have been walking out for a good few weeks (stressing the walk only) to build up muscular strength. If he was bucking etc on the lunge,, there is an excellent chance he will have pulled something and be very sore. If you could not ride, then would have suggested long reining. It would be like you sitting on a couch for 6 months, then suddenly heading into the gym for intense classes every day. Lunging is hard on horses..
4. The windsucking, which started when you cut the hay back. Its very hard to pinpoint what causes windsucking or how to stop it but in this instance, I would have upped his hay again, soaked if necessary and definatley looked at the prospect of ulcers.

So in summary, I think you have a pony in pain and as the others said, you need a good equine vet out to give him a proper check over, and if necessary scope him (which would probably mean a trip to Liphook) We use Shotters and Byers and Steve Brooks at our yard, both are very good.
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I found your comments and advice very useful. Thank you. xxx
 
Just on the referral front...you don't need one to liphook if you register with them as a first opinion client and you're in their catchment area. i know not everyone likes big practices but if you develop a relationship with one particular vet they will try to keep you with the same one (unless its an emergency) and at least they have every bit of diagnostic equipment within 30mins of where you are. my boy was unhappy, stopped jumping very badly behaved hacking but looked in fab condition. i asked for him to be scoped. he had ulcers and within weeks of treatment the difference was stunning so i really urge you to consider this as a possibility
 
molly7886 said:
Just on the referral front...you don't need one to liphook if you register with them as a first opinion client and you're in their catchment area. i know not everyone likes big practices but if you develop a relationship with one particular vet they will try to keep you with the same one (unless its an emergency) and at least they have every bit of diagnostic equipment within 30mins of where you are. my boy was unhappy, stopped jumping very badly behaved hacking but looked in fab condition. i asked for him to be scoped. he had ulcers and within weeks of treatment the difference was stunning so i really urge you to consider this as a possibility
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Brilliant :)

I know it won't be nice to watch, but please do insit vet scope. Let us know what the vet says.
 
Blondie1 said:
Vet is all booked for tomorrow so fingers crossed.

Thanks again everyone.
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Thats good news! Which vet if you don't mind telling us?

and didn't know that about Liphook. Actually I would register first hand if I was closer, just that it would be good to know you effectively had immediate access to their facilities.
 
I would cancel with your vet and get to Liphook asap - this is sounding very serious, and needs a second opinion. Do take the advice given, it's all great. :)
 
Shysmum said:
I would cancel with your vet and get to Liphook asap - this is sounding very serious, and needs a second opinion. Do take the advice given, it's all great. :)
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How is this sensible advice?

Surely the most sensible way forward is to have the original vet out to now assess the horse and go from there? It doesn't sound very serious at all, why scaremonger??
 
Might I ask what the reason was that made you change his hay from ablib to 8lb soaked? Looking back at your diary, things seemed to have spiraled downwards since then..
edited to add, he may have been stressed over the field move and the change of diet has thrown him over the edge. My lad is a bit sensitive to change, and responds by loosing weight and getting stressy, your boy might be the same, only you've misread the signals, and it's now got to a point where it's going to take a lot to find out exactly where his health has deteriorated and get back on the straight..
 
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