I'm about to buy this horse - do i need paper work?

Dear Amber

Good Luck with your new partner, I hope that you will have many happy years together and that he had found a place that will love and care for him until the end of his days.

It is rare to find someone that will let you take a horse away and try it for sometime, so test the water as much as you can before handing over your money. In my experience some of the cheapest horses can turn out to be the best and the most highest priced can turn into a nightmare.

Do some homework and contact the previous owners also, its lovely to hear the history and often this heds some light on why the horse reacts as he does.

Most horses are a gamble and as a previous poster said so much can go wrong after the event, a horse I had as a teenager was kicked in the field by a pony three days after arriving and fractured its stifle.

If you are sure about this horse and have considered as much advice as you can, go for it and much enjoyment to you in the future.
 
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ParkRanger; From what I read Vicijp was a 16yo that was exercising him when he was a 2yo - he can't have been that much of a menace! Also, the pics of him with his previous owner make it look as though he was doing ok with another young girl who (not wanting to offend!) didn't look all too experienced either.
Some TB's are mellow, you seem to want to brand them all as monsters because of your experiences with Ty.
 
aww thank you everyone!!

he has got a lovely home now

well i might give him a small canter but im worried i will bugger his tendons up? will it be okay in the school for like 5 strides though he has amazing brakes and easy to control

thanks vic its nice to know he was an honour to ride he still is to me he is lovely

and for those who thought i was younger then 18 im 20 so dont worry im not some love struck mad teen and i have been looking for a horse for 3 months nearly! had 2 already on loan and sent them back again

i know he wouldnt pass a vetting but i think if i take it easy build him up and look after him he will last

he defo needs his neck and all his other muscles built again but after having so much time off........

i will take more photos of him too

he has a lovely face its almost dished its very sweet its defo the same horse and if i can get any more info on him then i would be very happy
 
He was always quite strong, but nice - would take a grip but with his head in chest, nice mouth.
I do remember he tanked off in his first few races over hurdles.
You do need to remember I had been riding racehorses since I was 11, and was race riding at 16.
I would say he would be fine though, was always sensible.
 
oh and the bit he was in she said he doesnt need that he was just her new horse and she wanted to be safe in those pictures im riding him in snaffle now and may even change it to a straight bar he really is fine and easy to do
 
I hope he has a really happy life with you then, he deserves it! xx
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I wasn't suggesting that you were inexperienced at that age, but if he was a hell of a horse to control I don't think he'd have been going out with a slip of a girl on top!
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I also think that if you had thought that he was too much horse for Amber to handle then you'd have spoken up already wouldn't you?
 
I know, and I really shouldn't have done as I was similar to you (though never as gutsy I doubt!!). When I was 11 I'd always end up breaking and riding naughty ponies for people as I was wiry and really strong, yet lightweight, and it's still like that now
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indeed well i am happy to go fast but as long as its controllable

my first pony bolted all the time had no feeling in anything was a nutcase and wasnt safe
my second horse was a TB Gelding who bolted all the time at first but I taught him to enjoy a slower pase in life that was gypsy trail and he soon calmed down
my third horse i went to see to get broke my ankle
i then had 4 years off
then recently had a arab who was a 25 year old nutcase and gave her back
then a warmblood 19 year old who was dangerous and reared up and landed on people so gave him back

and now finally get fergall at last a complete gent lol
 
Amber I prob sound like an old stick in the mud, I just want you to realise that he will change a bit - all horses do when they're fit. That's not to say that hell be a nightmare and you sound as if you'll be ok with him,

Bounty, I don't think all tbs are monsters (shouldn't have used that phrase really) but I was someone coming back into riding who brought a tb- what an idiot! I strongly believe that the problems we had were solely down to me not having the experience of dealing with tbs. Were good now but its taken a long time!

I doubt I'd have anything but tbs now - when you get them right they're such an intelligent rewarding breed but I didn't know what I was getting myself into.

As for all the 'go for it' posts I agree that as long as amber goes it eyes open then shell be fine - I suppose I just don't want to see someone going through a bad time.

I also used to have nutty horses and ponies when I was younger - one 11 can be totally differnt to another - I was riding a 15.2 saddlebred who could be a nightmare but I loved it! Now have a healthier sense of self preservation!
 
He really does sound lovely and if Vic can give him the thumbs up then I think you have a good horse there!

Like you say, you are wanting a friend and a pet, not a world beater, a happy hacker who will keep you safe, and he fits the bill!

I say go for it, canter him if you can beforehand, Im sure a few strides will do no damage.
 
I think his feet look fine - says she going off at a tangent. You have had him on loan for a month and you love him. You are not going to hammer him. You are going to get all the appropriate passport stuff sorted and now, thanks to all the advice above, you should be aware of all the extra pitfalls. If you are still happy -BUY HIM! He looks a lovely chap, he seems to deserve a good home and as long as you are braced for possible problems (and we all have to be to some extent) then I think you will have made the right choice. Do let us know!
 
Have read most of the above posts.
One query I had, Amber, is that you say that you have organised some very comprehensive insurance for him? I would have thought that the insurers would want a vetting done before they would be so inclusive of everything? Do you have any exclusions on your policy?

Personally I think it is great for you and great for the horse if your parternship is suited - Ie if you want to give him lots of TLC, enjoy riding at home, but have realistic expectations then that should be a lovely life for him.

I do think if I were in your situation I would want a vetting done, so at least I knew roughly what I was taking on from a veterinary perspective. Bear in mind that even if you do have insurance they normally only insure a particular condition for 1 yr and then it will be down to you. My horse has a spavin, he had lots of investigations and treatment a few yrs ago but should it present problems in the future I will be the one having to pay. If you end up with lameness problems you can be up to £5K with treatment/investigations before you know it. Believe me.

I think buy the horse and enjoy it - As long as you have some idea (via a vetting) of what you are taking on. You have to be happy that you can cover all eventualties. Go in with your eyes open, not shut...........Good luck and I hope it all works out.
 
Just t put your mind at rest about the bit, she has him in a very badly fitted Myler Combination, and contary to popular belief they aren't strong bits.

If you are happy on him and you've got the insurance to cover him I would say go for it.
 
Dear Amber,

I have owned horses for 35 years and although I just gently hack them I have always had a prospective horse vetted by the vets practive I have used for an equal number of years.

The reason being is that I then know exactly what problems the horse has and how to either live with the problem without aggrovating it or at least make me aware how much it may cost me in future veterinary care. It laso means that my vet knows what he may come up against in future medical treatment of the horse.

In my experience insurance companies are normally happy to insure a horse however as soon as they have paid out for a particular medical condition they then promptly exclude it in from any future cover thus meaning one has to find the cash oneselves.

I have a friend who collects ex-racehorses and I do know that they can be very expensive to maintain because of previous injuries and the long term treatment of them.

You will become very fond of your horse but you do need to be aware what is wrong with him at this point in time so that you at least have some indication of the likely long term costs of his veterinary care.

I wish you good luck and every enjoyment of your new horse.
 
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One query I had, Amber, is that you say that you have organised some very comprehensive insurance for him? I would have thought that the insurers would want a vetting done before they would be so inclusive of everything? Do you have any exclusions on your policy?

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I have just bought a new horse - paid less then £5k for him, so no need to produce a veterinary certificate.
 
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