I'm so angry.

Little Squirrel

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I broke quite a few horses for a guy who breeds himself. He really doesn't have a clue and the mare's are wild. The offspring are wild as he leaves them untouched for 3 or 4 years and then passes them over to any idiot who would take them. In this case me! I had just moved to the UK and was trying to build up my yard, needed the money etc etc.

Anyway I got a few of these incredibly wild, ignorant 3 and 4 yo's to break. Worked away with them and got them going quite well.

The owner has no patience and expects them to go to shows a week after they have been sat on but I put my foot down and told him that they needed time to mature both in body and mind and to leave them back out for 6 months to grow up.

One horse inparticular was lovely, he was the oldest of the bunch and he turned from a nervous wreck to a smashing ride. I gave him a couple of months break after the initial few months of him being ridden and then got stuck into him. His flatwork came on lovely, he was jumping great. Never ever did anything out of the way. He had a gorgeous mouth and I had worked really hard on him. Took him to a few shows and he got double clears etc etc. His owner who want's to sell everything and would probably sell his mother then had a prospective buyer for him. Prospective buyer came to try him, loved him and offered him £5k for the horse. Owner turned it down, he wanted £7k ... now bear in mind this horse was bred from a wild broodmare with a stallion which also runs with the mares and then lived on hay and water for four years before coming to me for a while. So it hadn't exactly cost him a fortune to get him to this point :eek: Anyway prospective buyer didn't buy him and I can't say I blame them.... rip off.com!

So fastforward a bit. I was getting sick of owner expecting me to risk my life with his silly horses and I was getting busy with the racehorses anyway and my yard was filling up. I only had this horse above and a 2 year old of his by this stage anyway. I told Mr Owner that I was too busy and wanted to concentrate on what I really wanted to do which was the racing. So the horses wen't home and 6 months down the line I get a phonecall from Mr owner. The horse above who I had going lovely. Bolted down the road at the weekend. He had tried to buck the girl off who's been riding him as well. He is trying to blame me saying that I didn't break the horse properly. I wen't to see the horse Monday night. He is a nervous wreck again. I am so upset for the horse as he doesn't deserve any of this. I think the 14 year old who has been riding him has galloped him about every day that she get's on him. All of his shoes are off bar one (I doubt he's been shod since he left me). I am just so mad and I nearly said I'd take the horse back just for the horses sake but I really don't want the hassell with his d**k of an owner again. I'm at a loss of what is the best thing to do.

Any advice, much appreciated :)
 
Cake&Coffee.

Best advice I can give, and deffo Chocolate Cake!!

What A ****** though!!!! ><
I shall share your anger and shall enjoy cake too! ><
 
Hassle from owner,horse back and you know it is ok.. Other option Is tell him to get stuffed and walk away.
Depends how much you care about the horse.
 
My general philosophy in life and business is do not deal with people that you don't see eye to eye with. It sounds like you are now in a position to not have to deal with this guy, so don't. As far as the horse is concerned, it must be difficult for you to see all your hard work ruined, but short of buying the horse off of him, little you can do. Sadly such scenarios play out all over the country on a daily basis. Best of luck and carry on helping those horses you can and helping sympathetic owners.
 
For the horses sake get him back, for your own walk away and keep walking. People like this never learn you will not be able to change his ways. It is ridiculous that he turns down £5k being greedy but takes it back to ruin the work you did and make it worthless again.
Not your problem in any way, although if horse is nice a cheeky offer to buy may be worth considering, but he is not likely to take it so not worth your time really.
 
What a bleedy shame , some people are just stupid...other than buying the horse yourself , lets face it he ain't going to get 7k for him now , i don't know what to suggest. It's not going to help you with this horse but if you back and break for a living , could you video your progress ( video diary type thing ) with such horses so that you can actually prove that the horse is going really nicely , as it seams at this point the guy thinks you haven't done a very good job at least you could have shown him he was talking crap , just a thought
 
Just point out that he was offered £5k for the horse after you had broken and schooled it on, whereas now HE has undone all the work it won't be worth anything. Then put the phone down on him, don't have any more dealings with him. You don't need it and you will never get so much as a thank you from people like that.. Don't worry too much about the horse. Yes it is not going well, but it sounds as though the horse has the upper hand.. Put it all behind you and look forward.

(Sorry - just read that the horse is nervous again. Tell him you will redo the horse and get it back to where it was, but you want paying - quite a bit)
 
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Thanks everyone. If the horse wasn't so nice I wouldn't care as much, but he is lovely. Unfortunatley I can't buy him as I have to concentrate on the racehorses and any money that I have is going into the yard and I am trying to save enough for a gallop at the end of the day that is what I wan't to do and so I have to put 100% into it.

I would probably take him back to work on him again but what would be the point as he will just go back there and be back where he is now another 6 months down the road. I don't know if he's been hit or what's gone on but he was terribly head shy the other night. He was also box walking which he has never done before. He has just turned into an incredibly unhappy horse and it breaks my heart.

I had his teeth done just before he left as I knew that Mr Owner wouldn't have them done.

I have videos of him whilst he was here and Mr Owner has seen them. He also came to all the shows to watch him and used to come out every other weekend and watch him being ridden, so he's seen how he was here. He's just an ignorant git and would rather blame me at the end of the day I think.
 
Can you not have an agreement in place with his owner that you have him back and sort him out and then sell him from your yard? At least that way you have a say in him getting a nice home to go to.
 
Can you not have an agreement in place with his owner that you have him back and sort him out and then sell him from your yard? At least that way you have a say in him getting a nice home to go to.

It's not that easy the horse is worth £1500 max in the current climate. What he wants for him is beyond the joke and he won't take anything less. Hence why he is still stuck with the 26 horses he has bred. He hasn't sold 1.

I got a client for two horses offered him £8000 for the two and he turned it down. He wanted 10. Can't win.
 
wow! what a twa*t!
get that horse back for the horses sake, help him, get the trust back, and hopefully he'll come out nicely, and iff you really dont have the time sell him to a lovely home!
 
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